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Castlevania Community Thread | What is a man?!
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pants
Member
http://www.vg247.com/2013/07/22/castlevania-next-one-teased-by-lords-of-shadow-2-producer/
Mercury steam is OUT guys
Mercury steam is OUT guys
Hallelujah, what an amazing night to have a curse ETC
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
I guess this means LoS2 is going to be terribad.
I won't be surprised if they got Double Helix to develop the next Castlevania... But I hope it's Arc System Works or Platinum Games.
I won't be surprised if they got Double Helix to develop the next Castlevania... But I hope it's Arc System Works or Platinum Games.
TalesOfWin
Banned
Good news indeed. Imo the castlevania series should be made by the japanese.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
DXC is my favorite of the series.
I actually liked HD a lot with all the DLC, needed Richter in it day 1.
I actually liked HD a lot with all the DLC, needed Richter in it day 1.
pants
Member
Wasn't sure that's why I put it in here. I for one will be dancing through the streets this day.
brandonh83
Banned
I think it's awesome how honest he's being. First one had issues too but I thought it was great overall.
Guys, help me out here. The author of the article makes it sound as if the "for the next one" quote was coming from Konami and that it is about the next Castlevania. To me, however, it sounds like Cox was talking about Mercury Steam's next project.
I dunno, I would let WayForward take a crack at it.
Samir Sedlar
Member
Naaah it really isn't.
On a 2nd thought, this is a good thing, cause now Lords of Shadow will remain a great legacy, rather than being milked down.
I have no idea how you came up with that.
MercurySteam said it over and over again, they have a story to tell, they will tell it, and move on to something else, these are great developers, cause they actually know when to stop, very few developers do that.
pants
Member
Alright, re-reading that it looks fishy. Ask the author, someone with twatter
https://twitter.com/davescook
Can't be bothered. Videogame journalism, that's all I'll say.
Samir Sedlar
Member
I know Dave (not on a personal level), he interacts with the readers and discuss his opinions with them, he even openly apologized a couple of times when he was wrong.
Just sayin.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Yeah MoF had lackluster sales. MoF sold like 30k in USA and I think last Igavanias were around 100k. We can assume it was similar in the rest of the world.
MercurySteam being out of Castlevania is good news. MoF is the very definition of mediocre, probably the worst 2D main Castlevania game and LoS is an unispired GoW clone that does everything worst of the game is trying to clone.
The Castlevania series was in dire need of a reboot. Iga had pretty much written the entire series into a corner. The man pushed his idea of a timeline way too hard, and ultimately wrote out any possible place to fit more games in. The Iga timeline is done. Every possible space where could have a fight between Dracula and the Belmonts is filled. There is no room for adding anything at this point.
It wasn't even that good of lore, for the most part. Good writing has never been the Castlevania series' strong point. It has some moments with the X of Sorrow games, but that is about it. While Lords of Shadow hasn't really improved much in that regard, the writing and lore of the older timelines wasn't really something that I would write home about.
The Lords of Shadow story is ending, but all that means is that Konami should completely reboot Castlevania again. I see little point in sticking to an older continuity that has already served its purpose.
Might very well be. At least that sends the message that people don't want this kind of combat/linear progression in a 2D Castlevania.
Fixed the typo for ya.
I don't know how can you say the IGA timeline is done when the 1999 game wasn't ever made!
Unfortunately, I bet Konami is going to take it as if people don't want ANY 2D Castlevania with linear progression.
They can't possibly ignore how well some non-Castlevania-Metroidvanias were received in recent years. Shadow Complex, Guacamelee etc.
It is definitely lighter than in other handheld games in the series, but "o exploration" is simply not true and I am not even sure what you are getting at.
Because there is little point. The 1999 story of the IGA timeline is similar to the Elf Wars from Mega Man X/Zero: it isn't there to be told directly, only to serve as a backstory for a game set after it. We already know the outcome of the 1999 battle: Julius Belmont beat Dracula and sealed his power and castle away inside the eclipse. There is nothing else really to say about it.
If they were to make a Castlevania set in 1999, I would hope that it would be a classic stage-based Castlevania, for consistencies sake if nothing else. All of the other proper millennial resurrection Dracula battles have been stage-based games.
I would still rather see a complete reboot, though.
I agree with this post
Other than the 1999 battle from the Iga timeline, there was no more space for anything GOOD.
Lords of Shadows timeline is full of possibilities and the first game was actually great. Lords of Shadows 2 will be an instant buy from me.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I'd love another linear stage-based platformer Castlevania anyway!
Host Samurai
Member
The N64 Castlevania games were much better than the PS2 games.
I would take shitty platforming over no platforming any day.
I hope the entirety of LoS2 is like LoS1 clock tower stage. That is one level that really nailed that classic CV platforming to a T.
I also hope for some classic bosses to return like Legion and the gallery of 50's horror monsters would be a nice throwback.
I would take shitty platforming over no platforming any day.
I hope the entirety of LoS2 is like LoS1 clock tower stage. That is one level that really nailed that classic CV platforming to a T.
I also hope for some classic bosses to return like Legion and the gallery of 50's horror monsters would be a nice throwback.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I'm really glad Mercury Steam is out... Iga for the next Vania is the obvious choice... though I dunno if that dude's still got it. He's just been in a broom closet, doing accounting or some shit for like half a decade now. But if Konami farmed the series out to M2, Treasure, or Wayforward, I'd be okay with that.
Please leave basically anyone else out of it.
Please leave basically anyone else out of it.
Huh?
Totally an IGA thread and Mercury bashing thread, and these are what? 2-3 posts distant from yours? ... it seems more like you don't actually want to discuss and whine about it.
Didn't pass the page, sorry !
Why do people don't remember bloodlines? I think it had the most impressive setpieces of its time, that mirror level is nuts also that tower... the way it exceeded SCVIV in that regard in inferior ahrdware and had the best music on the genesis is something that should asure its place in the pantheron of classics!
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I'm with you, Bloodlines is probably my favourite classicvania.
TalesOfWin
Banned
bloodlines is good and is a more difficult game than SCIV. However, i still prefer Super Castlevanias level design.
It's hard as fuck, Lecarde makes it a little easier but it's really hard, that penultimate boss fight is torture.
TalesOfWin
Banned
yeah it is definitely one of the harder castlevanias, up there with Castlevania III dracula's curse.
Instead of bashing Lords of Shadow line of games, let's discuss:
How would everyone evolve Castlevania?
Back to the Classic stage Route?
3D akin to Metroid Prime series? (Which LoS2 might do)
2D HD Metroidvania in a new timeline.
GoW/DMC/Ninja Gaiden type of game (LoS1)
Dating yaoi Sim (You know there is someone out there wanting this, somewhere...)
How would everyone evolve Castlevania?
Back to the Classic stage Route?
3D akin to Metroid Prime series? (Which LoS2 might do)
2D HD Metroidvania in a new timeline.
GoW/DMC/Ninja Gaiden type of game (LoS1)
Dating yaoi Sim (You know there is someone out there wanting this, somewhere...)
Oh yeah, I love me some Bloodlines. Definitely in my top favorite Castlevanias.
TalesOfWin
Banned
I'd like to see it go back to Castlevania II Simon's quest. Many forget that Castlevania had exploration before Metroidvania.
Though Simon's quest took it a step further and added towns.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
This is what I suggested earlier. I think it'd be awesome.
I think Order of Eclesia was Simon's Quest done right.
Actually, I think the format of Order of Eclesia had an awesome flow.
dcx4610
Member
It's not Mercury Steam's fault that they were working on an original game (Lords of Shadow) and Konami wanted to slap Castlevania's name on it.
LoS is a good game but shouldn't have been Castlevania. There is nothing wrong with the company itself as the game is beautiful and other than some camera issues, was well made.
If Konami wants to go in a new direction, I want 2D style NES Castlevania in a Metroidvania style map. Bring back the Hammer Horror movies style gothic look and atmosphere and do away with the Japanese anime look. It just doesn't work for the series.
LoS is a good game but shouldn't have been Castlevania. There is nothing wrong with the company itself as the game is beautiful and other than some camera issues, was well made.
If Konami wants to go in a new direction, I want 2D style NES Castlevania in a Metroidvania style map. Bring back the Hammer Horror movies style gothic look and atmosphere and do away with the Japanese anime look. It just doesn't work for the series.
Actually, it started out as a Castlevania game, then Konami pulled the licence early on. Later and still rather early in development, when Kojima was impressed by MS' work, he convinced Konami to make it a Castlevania game (again).
Omegasquash
Member
I really need to get on that train. I own the cartridge, too.
Now all I've gotta do is commandeer that 13in CRT up in the guest room and I'll be good to go.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Not even Konami remember it. Wonder why it never made it on to the Virtual Console.
Seven Force
Banned
Without a doubt. Still don't know how they pulled off that boss fight on top of the tower.
TalesOfWin
Banned
Well they remember some of it because Jonathan Morris is John Morris son in Portrait of Ruin. Even Lecarde has a reference in PoR.