Razgriz-Specter
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This is true,
Though Lost Painting/Portrait is probably my favorite.
Also have a soft spot for Dreams of Triumph
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Castlevania |OT| A miserable little pile of episodes - Netflix 7/7
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This is true,
Though Lost Painting/Portrait is probably my favorite.
Also have a soft spot for Dreams of Triumph
BattleMonkey
Member
So was this just some animated movie that netflix picked up later and is now making it into a series? The episode count and quick renewal seems to indicate this was not planned out from the start as a show
LFMartins86
Member
There wasn't a quick renewal. The original announcement was for season 1 and 2, they have been working on Season 2 for a while now.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Did we see the same show? Did you see how it ended? There's no way this wasn't planned to have another season.
Fucking awesome.
BattleMonkey
Member
DTV movies and such leave themselves open to sequels all the time.
sir_kevith
Member
Yeah I was really hoping to hear at least one on the final episode. I'm sure they'll go for it since it seems like it's performed well enough.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
The entire concept is like 10+ years old.
The idea for this series apparently goes back to like 2005.
Also, I love the moral complexity of pretty much every character in the series. There are a lot of intriguing and very human polarizations:
-belief in humanity vs. belief in individuality (Dracula)
-science vs. religion/mysticism (Lisa)
-duty vs. freedom (Trevor)
-power/arrogance vs. humility (bishop)
-justice vs. gamily loyalty (Alucard)
Ellis knows the secrets of storytelling and the importance of having polar opposite views clash to make for engaging storytelling.
Also, I love the moral complexity of pretty much every character in the series. There are a lot of intriguing and very human polarizations:
-belief in humanity vs. belief in individuality (Dracula)
-science vs. religion/mysticism (Lisa)
-duty vs. freedom (Trevor)
-power/arrogance vs. humility (bishop)
-justice vs. gamily loyalty (Alucard)
Ellis knows the secrets of storytelling and the importance of having polar opposite views clash to make for engaging storytelling.
Actually, the original announcement was S1 part 1 and S1 part 2. They took part 2 and turned it into S2.
LIked this, but being in series format with only four 23 minute episodes or so was a weird choice.
It would've worked better as a short pilot movie. ALso the budget clearly was low and what was there at least went to the action more than anything. The rest was a bit iffy to say the least.
It would've worked better as a short pilot movie. ALso the budget clearly was low and what was there at least went to the action more than anything. The rest was a bit iffy to say the least.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Which makes sense. There is like no act structure in the episodes. Stuff just happens. You can immediately tell it was written as a longer story and cut into pieces. Like Ep 4 Spoiler:
When Alucard chastises Trevor for the nut shot, saying "This isn't a bar fight." Perfectly acceptable callback in a movie, but really weird for a show to reference a small moment like that from two episodes ago.
I think that's why I had a more negative response to this, the pacing was a constant irritant for me. It took 80 mins for a setup that could've been done in half that time. It's a nice little taste test, but hopefully the next seasons' structure fits the format.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
So.... who is dusting off the Vita to play some SotN?
PS2 for me. And listening to a lot of CV music today.
Also finally started playing Dawn of Sorrow for the DS. Never played it and had it sitting on my shelf for at least seven years now. Also intend to replay Portrait of Ruin and Order of Ecclesia.
darkmark1987
Member
Loved it, watched it all in one sitting, which I hate doing as I like to take my time and look forward to the next ep (planned one a night). Great set up to season 2 as well. My only exposure was the 360 title (called lord of shadow I think), and never git to play the 2nd outside a demo. Made me want to go back and try one. What's a good one to try on either ps4,Vita or 3ds?
Pretty great, but I'd like some more hints at Castlevania tunes in the OST (there was a little from SCIV in the first episode).
Agreed, hopefully they meet him along the way.
Agreed, hopefully they meet him along the way.
Curt Baboon
Member
Trevor Belmont is such a Warren Ellis character that I was half hoping he would start shooting heroin into his eyeballs at some point.
Loved this. I hope Ellis sticks around.
Loved this. I hope Ellis sticks around.
I agree the pace of the show could have been alot faster like some one said it feels like it was supposed to be a movie that was changed into a pilot
For sure.
While we're talking about music, I always enjoyed this rather atypical castlevania song.
Nice. From a top three Castlevania game too.
He even has a trench coat Ellis can't help himslef
not enough love for the most underrated castlevania game bloodlines on the genesis.
https://youtu.be/diJhVo2G9ZQ?list=PLgh-JcTJU5se-Sk0RuYjHRUsILCMc9VZt
https://youtu.be/kCHVl-LzOV8?list=PLgh-JcTJU5se-Sk0RuYjHRUsILCMc9VZt
https://youtu.be/diJhVo2G9ZQ?list=PLgh-JcTJU5se-Sk0RuYjHRUsILCMc9VZt
https://youtu.be/kCHVl-LzOV8?list=PLgh-JcTJU5se-Sk0RuYjHRUsILCMc9VZt
Davey Cakes
Member
I hope this series opens the door for more video game adaptations.
A gore-ific take on Contra would be entertaining. I can just imagine all the badass weapon switching and all the glorious visuals of aliens being blown apart.
A gore-ific take on Contra would be entertaining. I can just imagine all the badass weapon switching and all the glorious visuals of aliens being blown apart.
Miles Quaritch
Member
That was very enjoyable, but what a way to end this season...
When can we expect season 2?
Some slight criticisms, I felt they could have told this story in just two episodes, lots of needless padding. They also could have focused more on Dracula and his relationship, that aspect felt really rushed with how much time they waste on other, less relevant stuff.
When can we expect season 2?
Some slight criticisms, I felt they could have told this story in just two episodes, lots of needless padding. They also could have focused more on Dracula and his relationship, that aspect felt really rushed with how much time they waste on other, less relevant stuff.
Like others here, I was quite pleasantly surprised by this production. I've never been a hardcore Castlevania fan, just a casual one, but I felt this captured the right mood for the story. My only real complaints would be that either the voice direction or the audio mixing could have been tweaked in certain scenes. They did a good job in terms of combining material from the games with new connecting tissue without attempting to be a slavish adaptation.
Speaking of which...it's interesting to look back at what Warren Ellis himself was saying about this project several years ago.
There's more available here:
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/0...is-wrote-castlevania-animation-ten-years-ago/
Speaking of which...it's interesting to look back at what Warren Ellis himself was saying about this project several years ago.
There's more available here:
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/0...is-wrote-castlevania-animation-ten-years-ago/
It has some pretty overt signs of being a "test run" type of project, but overall I thought it was a decent watch and would definitely be interested in some more episodes that had more time to better build a proper narrative. The voice acting in particular I thought was pretty good and a big step up from the traditional anime English dub garbage.
They are turning Assassins Creed into an animated series.
Going off the first episode, the dialogue is horrible
Maybe it improves in the later episodes
Miles Quaritch
Member
Dialogue doesn't get better, but the animation is great.
SchrodingerC
Member
The backgrounds, atmosphere and gorey scenes do invoke a bit of Berserk. The more brutal scenes wouldn't have surprised me if Guts was hanging around in the background.
Ugh, if only Netflix could greenlight a Berserk show. I'd take 3 well polished episodes a year than what is currently available.
I mean dialogue in the games isn't exactly poetry either. It's clunky and ham-fisted and melodramatic, which is perfectly in line.
That said,there's a few clunkers even then.
Make that fucking one episode a year and you'd still have a deal. The new show is absolute garbage.
Seductivpancakes
Member
Yeah not a fan of the dialogue. Sticking around in hopes of getting that SoTN intro sometime in the future.
It's not the sort of dialogue that would earn an Emmy award or anything, but I think it worked for these characters and matches the whole "dark medieval world yet also kind of campy horror" vibe of the games. I did occasionally chuckle at some lines, for what it's worth, so that's a plus.
No, Street Fighter 2 animated movie and SatAM Sonic get my vote.
Moggelicious
Banned
Really Good! They should make the game after this!
cj_iwakura
Member
PS3 here. I still need to finish Ecclesia...
Just finished it. That's a pretty damn good Castlevania animated show.
It's very different tonally, but it works. Castlevania with a hard edge is actually a really interesting story it turns out.
I especially like Trevor's portrayal as a tired edgelord. The show is self aware enough to know that he's kinda this awkward loser but still indulges in the anti-hero badass persona when it can get a good scene out of it.
The action scenes were slick, and felt very Castlevania. You can see the moments where they're incorporating the sub weapons but it always felt natural. That last fight was especially fun, and really makes me excited for the inevitable Dracula fight. The creative uses of each character's powers bode well.
Only thing that really bothered me (aside from problems arising from its shorter length) was the voice acting being a bit of a mixed bag. A lot of minor characters weren't really doing it for me, but that's balanced out somewhat by one our two very good scenes. The voice acting was oddly strong at having characters sound natural, like they were real people talking. They could (and I really expected they would) have hammed it up but they actually went for very subdued delivery for a lot of scenes. The bishop was especially notable here, with how he almost whispers a lot of lines. It stuck out to me at least. Of course, on the other end of the spectrum more frantic scenes were lacking. Trevor especially just couldn't seem to get panicked down right, he was always just grunting when he really should be yelling.
Overall though a really damn promising start. I hope the show remains set in the wider world, as I'd love to see this cast travel around, but it'd be way too easy to just coop them up in dracs castle for the next season or two, so I guess we'll have to wait and see where this goes.
It's very different tonally, but it works. Castlevania with a hard edge is actually a really interesting story it turns out.
I especially like Trevor's portrayal as a tired edgelord. The show is self aware enough to know that he's kinda this awkward loser but still indulges in the anti-hero badass persona when it can get a good scene out of it.
The action scenes were slick, and felt very Castlevania. You can see the moments where they're incorporating the sub weapons but it always felt natural. That last fight was especially fun, and really makes me excited for the inevitable Dracula fight. The creative uses of each character's powers bode well.
Only thing that really bothered me (aside from problems arising from its shorter length) was the voice acting being a bit of a mixed bag. A lot of minor characters weren't really doing it for me, but that's balanced out somewhat by one our two very good scenes. The voice acting was oddly strong at having characters sound natural, like they were real people talking. They could (and I really expected they would) have hammed it up but they actually went for very subdued delivery for a lot of scenes. The bishop was especially notable here, with how he almost whispers a lot of lines. It stuck out to me at least. Of course, on the other end of the spectrum more frantic scenes were lacking. Trevor especially just couldn't seem to get panicked down right, he was always just grunting when he really should be yelling.
Overall though a really damn promising start. I hope the show remains set in the wider world, as I'd love to see this cast travel around, but it'd be way too easy to just coop them up in dracs castle for the next season or two, so I guess we'll have to wait and see where this goes.
That's my opinion as well. At least, I can't think of anything that's better. As you said, respecting the source material goes a long way.