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CBS hit with $550K Super Bowl halftime show fine
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relentlessflame
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I'm sorry... but this just absolutely boggles my mind. As EdLuva implied, it seems to me that the only reason the FCC going this far is because so many people complained - they're trying to make people feel like their concerns are being "dealt with". The fact that so many people complained is just insane - you can see almost as much watching music videos. Never before has our double-standard regarding nudity been so apparent. I imagine that people around the world are laughing right now, and rightfully so. Unbelievable...
Faith in America -1
(Disclaimer: I'm actually a Canadian, but I don't think we're much better at all.)
Faith in America -1
(Disclaimer: I'm actually a Canadian, but I don't think we're much better at all.)
I'ld like to know the percentage of people that complained. How many people actually watch the the game. Also I would like to know the number of people that searched for a clip so they could see it after the fact. You would probable find like 1% of people complained, or at least I hope you would. The whole thing was a very funny joke that got even funnier when all the freaks in the freak kingdom got upset about it.
Phoenix
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Stations that show music videos are governed by slightly different broadcast policies than the broadcast networks. Most music video channels are almost always broadcasting the teen rating or on cable where they can legally broadcast at the teen rating or higher without any issue (usually). Regular broadcast networks don't have that luxury - they have to conform to the decency guidelines imposed by the FCC.
relentlessflame
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That may be so; I'm not saying the FCC is stepping beyond their bounds in applying this fine. They have to enforce the rules that are established. But, I do question the "big picture" that led to the formation of the rules. I also wonder why 540,000 people went so far as to complain to the FCC about something that seems, to me at least, to be so trivial. It's the bigger issue that I find unbelievable - this FCC fine is just icing on the cake. All the outrage over this silly thing is just unreal (at least it seems so to me).Phoenix said:
relentlessflame said:
On the whole we're not, but it's stunning to see how different the TV standards are even between Canada and the US, nevermind the US versus Europe.
And this fine is stupid as fuck...it isn't like CBS told Justin and Janet to do their own take on Strip Tease. Granted they should've known exactly what they were planning to do, but telling Janet not to bare her nipple is the equivalent of telling Justin not to start a stage fire...it's pretty much assumed, common sense stuff that doesn't need stating.
Phoenix said:A guy and his friends are watching the game with his 5 year old son, a boob pops out and they all go crazy and maybe make some comments. Little timmy repeats one of these our tries to pop out his sister's boobs and BAMN.... complaint
So they don't complain about the two prior minutes of simulated sex that J & J were performing, but they complain about some one second long shot of a broached up nipple? Yeah, that's reasonable. Of course most of the complainers probably haven't had sex recently enough to remember what it's like, thus being oblivious to that lewd display.
Anyway, CBS has now been owned two days straight. So with tragedies generally coming in three's, what's gonna happen tomorrow? The entire cast of CSI walks off the job? The entire cast of Survivor drowns in a boat wreck? Mike Wallace dies?
i cant believe some of you didnt think this was a big deal.
families gathered around the tv for good ol' fashioned family entertainment. how would you feel if you left your 7 or 8 year old watch only to have janet jacksons bare tit right in their face?
and dont compare the news and music videos to this. with the news you know what you're gonna get especially with all the shit going on in the world today, which is a big reason a lot of parents dont let their young kids watch the news. and music videos are on cable and arent meant to be family entertainment.
families gathered around the tv for good ol' fashioned family entertainment. how would you feel if you left your 7 or 8 year old watch only to have janet jacksons bare tit right in their face?
and dont compare the news and music videos to this. with the news you know what you're gonna get especially with all the shit going on in the world today, which is a big reason a lot of parents dont let their young kids watch the news. and music videos are on cable and arent meant to be family entertainment.
Joe said:
BULLSHIT, you can hear the player swear on most nfl broadcasts. that's not for families, now is it?
It's pathetic, you have all the movies with the endless violence, and the music videos with sexual themes on the Tv, as well as naked men's asses in many movies, yet a single tit shows up on the TV for a split second and it's the biggest conspiracy in the history of television.
What the fuck?
regular season football is NOT family entertainment. the whole country watches the superbowl, please do not compare the two.
movies and music videos can NOT be compared either. parents dont let their 8 year old kids watch mtv or bet, they also dont let them watch pg-13, r rated movies. obviously some do, because their parents dont care but most do not.
movies and music videos can NOT be compared either. parents dont let their 8 year old kids watch mtv or bet, they also dont let them watch pg-13, r rated movies. obviously some do, because their parents dont care but most do not.
WasabiKing
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Don't cry for CBS, that's just 25% of the ad revenue they pulled for ONE commercial.
Joe said:
Since you obviously didn't read what I said earlier, I'm going to repeat it again. How the hell can these people NOT get offended by Justin and Janet having simulated sex on stage, yet raise a fucking uproar over a fucking nipple? Can you tell me how the fuck that works? Hell, the reason why I missed the nip shot live was because I was too put off by J&J's virtual sex routine to bother with the rest.
And this idea that the Superbowl is family entertainment is a crock of shit. At anytime you can see someone's leg get turned into an accordian, which is hardly a pretty sight. You've got cheerleaders wearing next to nothing doing dance routines that wouldn't look out of place at a strip joint. And do I even need to mention the commercials? Beer, beer, and more beer...with babes of course. Hell, one of the commercials during this year's Superbowl had a horse farting in the face of a woman. You call that family entertainment? Hell, I could see CBS getting fined for that...but for Justin disrobing Janet on their own accord? Get real.
Warm Machine
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CBC in Canada has certain rules about nudity and language...anything goes after 8:00pm I think French channel is anything goes after 6:00pm!
French channel is anything goes after 6:00pm!you can bring your kid to a circus and have the animals go nuts and the place turns into a riot with people getting trampled. does that mean its not family entertainment because of what COULD happen?Shinobi said:
and if you read the many articles most of the people that complained, filed a complaint about the entire half-time performance, the tittie gets all the spotlight though.
In the midst of watching two groups of strong men repeatedly attack each other physically... little Timmy is now going to be scarred for life because the tv showed a second of somebody's nipple during a show he may or may not have been watching considering the content of every other aspect MTV put in?
...and it's CBS's fault?
...and it's CBS's fault?
SalientOne
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Yes, because it's okay to teach little Timmy to solve his problems with violence. Hell, that's THE AMERICAN WAY!
I would care except for the fact that this is pretty clearly a slap on the wrist. 550K? Isn't that what CBS made for airing one single 15-second advertisement during the Superbowl?
Yeah, yeah, it's the principal of the thing.....but it's pretty clear that they decided to come up with a figure that CBS wouldn't waste their time contesting. That way it looks like they're doing their job. I don't think that the network should be held responsible for random "wardrobe malfunctions", but it would probably be more expensive for them to appeal the ruling anyway.
Yeah, yeah, it's the principal of the thing.....but it's pretty clear that they decided to come up with a figure that CBS wouldn't waste their time contesting. That way it looks like they're doing their job. I don't think that the network should be held responsible for random "wardrobe malfunctions", but it would probably be more expensive for them to appeal the ruling anyway.
Ehm I don't know if in Europe we got a different Superbowl version or not but they moved the camera away so fast that I was really asking myself 'Was that a titty?' Certain Americans love to bitch about anything they can bitch about. No way you can tell me that any 7 or 8 year old has been negatively effected by seeing less then 2 seconds of Janet's tit.Joe said:
Most of us have seen a bare breast the day we were born. You can go to a museum and see sculptures and paintings with breasts in them.
BURN THE FCC DOWN
edit: Nevermind the simulated sex and revealing clothing which is becoming superbowl halftime chic, how about the fact every other commercial was about boner pills? Look, children know breasts have nipples. They sucked from them. Children don't know that Grandpa swallows pills so he can bang grandma hard. Now that's fucking disturbing.
Joe said:
I wouldn't take my kid to a circus for that very reason. Hell, the stink alone is family offensive. :lol
I notice you had nothing to say about the other points BTW, but then there's nothing to say against it. Bottom line is that everyone's got a different take on what a "family show" is...I simply point out that the beer ads and near naked girls on the sidelines is hardly family-oriented viewing in my view (let alone a horse farting in someone's fucking face), yet little uproar is made about those elements.
I saw little said about the virtual sex show, which was ten times more offensive then the tit strip. All I heard about was the nipple. If those idiots actually decided to watch the entire sex simulation all the way through to the nipple disrobing, that's their fucking problem. It isn't that hard to change the fucking channel...it sure wasn't a problem for me.
border said:
The funny thing is that they're making a big deal about it being the biggest fine ever levied, as if I'm supposed to be wowed by the half million figure. They make that from a single advertising block during Survivor.
etiolate said:
:lol
MrPing1000
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we here in the UK thought it was rather damn funny and forgot about it quickly. When it comes to nudity we are pretty relaxed here.
we here in the UK thought it was rather damn funny and forgot about it quickly. When it comes to nudity we are pretty relaxed here.
Doc Holliday
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FCC fines CBS a record amount of money....Howard Stern works for cbs/viacom, Dan Rather went after bush hard...coincidence? hmmm....
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