Depends on if that retailer is "authorized" by CDPR. Can't wait to see who the source is.
CDPR keeping Witcher 3 keys for Origin, uPlay and GOG; tell GMG to go pound sand
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Depends on if that retailer is "authorized" by CDPR. Can't wait to see who the source is.
Denton
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They are selling something they were not authorized to sell, no matter where they got it. They can't do that and expect to keep good relationship with CDP. They stooped to the level of other resellers like G2A, sites that are banned on GAF for being shady.
GMG really hasn't come out clear in this. They are literally doing what the banned cdkey sites do. Yes not all keys on cdkey sites are stolen or fraudently gotten so it is the same thing.
GMG is buying keys from someone and turning around and selling them again and that is shady as shit.
GMG is buying keys from someone and turning around and selling them again and that is shady as shit.
GMG works with 2K, Ubisoft, Paradox, Digital Devolver, Indies, Codemasters, Bethesda, WB and many others and they never denied keys to GMG and then suddenly comes CDPR and denies them keys. Sorry but I can't see reasonable explanation if GMG statement is true.
Denton
Member
Bingo.
This is basically CD Project Red saying that GMG was selling stolen keys. Even if they didn't know where exactly GMG got the keys for the game, making this kind of claim and stating it as a fact without verifying if GMG got the game from an official retailer is a really questionable move. Especially because they knew full well that GMG must have bought the copies from one of the other official retailers. What else would they have done?
That may be true (I honestly don't know how legal or illegal it is from them to resell these games), but it doesn't exactly excuse misinformation on the part of CD Projekt Red either.
If anything, this makes me like GMG more (not that i didn't like them a lot already).
They went out of their way to get their customers a good deal whilst being denied access to keys directly from CDPR, sure its a loss leader style thing - but its pretty great of them to buy up a load of legit keys to sell on with a big discount.
Such hyperbole. For all we know they could have bought those cheap Russian keys off gog en masse, making cdpr lose profit. Actually, it wouldn't even surprise me since gifting tw3 on gog has been suspended due to high number of suspicious transactions.
Except for the fact that they need no authorization.
They do if they want to include the part of their website that says we can trust them because they only deal in official published games.
CDPR and GoG have not said anything at all about profits. That was Gamespot.
ANuclearError
Member
The way it's worded suggests that CDPR didn't actually say it. The only thing quoted is "unknown source", which doesn't really say anything.
All CDP said in statements was that they haven't partnered with GMG for TW3 sales and don't know from where GMG is getting their GOG keys.
GameSpot did all paraphrasing and clickbait writing.
You call it shady practice, I call it customer care. CDPR contacted GMG and asked them about the origin of the keys they're selling. GMG didn't respond. CDPR informed Gamespot that they don't know the origin of the keys and advised customers to hold off from buying the keys as their origin is unknown.
The only shady practice is the one committed by GMG.
Yes, let's just ignore that GMG has zero history doing that sort of thing. I seriously doubt that they are engaging in any kind of regional pricing exploitation, since that would just go completely against everything why GMG is popular in the first place.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Not surprising. Especially the claim that CDPR was getting "zero" revenue is really absurd. They were basically saying those are stolen keys. Despicable and unprofessional behaviour.
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, Gamespot's click bait is not that different than what they said.
Way to make a claim having zero proof.
Respect for CDPR going down. Apparently they see GMG more of a threat than Origin and Steam. Cowards...
MiguelItUp
Member
It's a lot of he said she said kind of stuff in all honesty. When everything is said and done, I trust GMG over CDPR. CDPR is cool and all, but with the push on GOG Galaxy I can't help but imagine this is them wanting to get more traction on it or something. Of course, that's merely my personal opinion, but after the years of GMG interviews and purchases I can't help but feel loyal to them.
Mr_Appleby
Member
This is basically Draikin 2 saying that CDPR were calling the keys stolen. Even if they don't know where exactly the quotation marks start and end, making this kind of claim and stating it as a fact without verifying if GameSpot are actually quoting an official source is a really questionable move.
That's the problem, we don't know anything because GMG are pussy footing around the issue. All we know is that the keys aren't from CDPR, they are from a third party that GMG won't say who which isn't exactly helpful. Re-selling keys is exactly the problem G2A had, and why it's banned from GAF and looked down upon.
As others have posted, GMG pride themselves on selling authorised keys. Witcher 3 isn't authorised to be sold because CDPR have no such deal.
You may want to read the actual original statement. CDPR said nothing about profits.Gemüsepizza;162964321 said:
Denton
Member
You work at CDP and know their digital distribution contracts?
And they didn't explained why they denied keys to GMG.
ColonialRaptor
Member
Wouldn't this just mean that I'd cdpr aren't getting the revenue from the keys gmg are selling the they're getting the money for the keys from whoever sold the keys to gmg? Right? I think that's been a bad way of expressing what I mean.
Cdpr > unknown party to us > gmg
The revenue going to cdpr from the middle man, it's not like gmg would have plucked the keys out of thin air...?
Cdpr > unknown party to us > gmg
The revenue going to cdpr from the middle man, it's not like gmg would have plucked the keys out of thin air...?
This thread is getting fucking ridiculous.
People are accusing CDP for things they never said. Most of that shit was all from GameSpot and they just took small snippet from CDP reps posts. Combine that with GMG statement and people are ready to jump down the throat of CDP.
dex3108, could you edit OP to represent all known facts in full? That is more or less both CDP rep posts and GMG statement.
Why they would or need to? I would argue that is totally irrelevant to topic at hand which is GMG selling TW3's GOG keys without being CDP partner.
People are accusing CDP for things they never said. Most of that shit was all from GameSpot and they just took small snippet from CDP reps posts. Combine that with GMG statement and people are ready to jump down the throat of CDP.
dex3108, could you edit OP to represent all known facts in full? That is more or less both CDP rep posts and GMG statement.
Why they would or need to? I would argue that is totally irrelevant to topic at hand which is GMG selling TW3's GOG keys without being CDP partner.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Yeah this is still bugging me, too. If Gamespot pulled the allegation out of their ass then it's shame on them for the misreporting of speculation as fact, especially now that the follow up article says the accusation came from the developer without a single quote from anybody at CDPR.
Well, if GMG is buying keys distributed in a low-income region, such as Ukraine and reselling them to the western audience, then CDPR is absolutely losing money.
Sora the Cat
Member
I think GMG is acting wrong here, cdpr told the truth, the copies were from an unknown source. If they don't want their game to be sold on GMG then that's fine, GMG should just accept it.
Now that I know this, I wouldn't buy a copy from them.
Now that I know this, I wouldn't buy a copy from them.
They dont need to. That is between GMG and CDPR.
or it is easier for them to exclude GMG than platform owned by EA or something as big as Steam.
I rally don't like CDProjekt practice but I don't expect much from that company.
I would love to do that but i am currently on mobile and it is a bit harder to do proper edit. If any mod has time please do it.
Yeah, clearly, after years of building up a customer base by doing the right things, making the right publisher connections, and providing great deals to gamers, GMG has chosen to shit it all away by selling gifted Ukrainian GOG keys for 1 game.
You seem to have a vested interest in making GMG out to be some sort of shady villain here, but as an online digital distributor, they've never been anything but above board and great for people that like to buy games at a discount. I didn't buy TW3 through them, I bought it through gog.com, but in retrospect, I kind of wish I had.
Edit: Even by CDPR's own statement:
There's nothing shady or illegal here, there's just a company making a product available to their customers that wouldn't be available otherwise.
Intheflorsh
Banned
GMG obviously has no incentive to maintain a good relationship with CDP if they're going to refuse to sell to them in favor of pushing their own platform.
Also, to my knowledge, the reason why G2A and sites like it are banned from GAF is because they often acquire the keys through legally questionable sources, not for being a "reseller". GMG might be acquiring codes shadily, but I don't see a reason to assume this.
iNvid02
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cdp and gmg couldnt come to an agreement regarding witcher 3 keys despite gmg offering a cash advance apparently, cdp wanted to prop up their GOG service according to gmg.
so gmg went around them and acquired keys from legit sources to resell - because if you're not offering one of the biggest PC games of the year for sale it looks bad.
that about sum it up?
so gmg went around them and acquired keys from legit sources to resell - because if you're not offering one of the biggest PC games of the year for sale it looks bad.
that about sum it up?
More - Less.
TheSlySoul
Member
I can see that a bit. Kind of feel if they wanted full control, make it a GOG exclusive. Seems like a jerk move to pick and choose who can sell your game.
It seems at one point GMG might have been promised keys, then they backed out of it. Would explain why GMG was so adamant about selling it.
ThreePiMatt
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This doesn't necessarily make GMG on the right side of this issue. A lot of those shady CD-key sellers are buying legitimate keys intended for low-income markets like Russia or southeast Asia. If GMG is buying those kinds of keys and then turning around and selling them for a profit in North American and Europe, that's pretty slimey as well.
The price on GMG is lower than the price on GOG. That means they either bought the keys at a much lower price in another region or they're selling at a loss. Which do you think is more likely?
Cool. They don't need my money either if they want to deny me options in where I can get the game for no good reason.
Nah bro. No one has time to look at both sides
Whoever throws the first accusation out is the winner. We demand blood from the other party
Neat. Thats your right as a consumer.
Thing is, GMG doesn't want to tell CDPR nor the public where it got the keys from and I don't know of ANY digital distributor of GOG keys outside of GOG. Do you?
Boo-hoo-hoo, I have a vested interest in making GMG out to be some sort of shady villain here:
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
You realize they could just be selling them at a discount with it only coming out of what would have been their profits right? Because the ultimatum you lined out is only two of a much larger number of possible scenarios.