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http://timesunion.com/AspStories/storyprint.asp?StoryID=654817

Steroids beyond sports
Celebrities now among those linked to drug shipments

By BRENDAN J. LYONS, Senior writer
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First published: Sunday, January 13, 2008

PATCHOGUE -- The names of R&B music star Mary J. Blige, along with rap artists 50 Cent, Timbaland and Wyclef Jean, and award-winning author and producer Tyler Perry, have emerged in an Albany-based investigation of steroids trafficking that has already rocked the professional sports world, according to confidential sources.

Information has surfaced recently showing those stars are among tens of thousands of people who may have used or received prescribed shipments of steroids and injectable human growth hormone in recent years. Law enforcement officials have said they have no evidence in their sprawling multistate probe that customers, including Blige or other entertainers, violated any laws. Instead, they are targeting anti-aging clinics, doctors and pharmacists who prescribed the drugs.

Still, medical experts say that use of steroids and human growth hormone -- an estimated $10 billion-a-year operation worldwide -- reaching into the entertainment industry illustrates how pervasive steroids use in the United States has become. It is not unique to athletics, where performance-enhancing drug use has marred many sports. For many celebrities, the lure of hormonal drugs is their supposed, unproven anti-aging effects.

While Congress is preparing to focus on baseball players alleged to have taken the drugs, medical experts are warning that steroids and human growth hormone are being illegally prescribed nationwide at an alarming rate under the misconception they will aid healing, enhance looks, strength and speed, or slow aging.

Records shared with the Times Union and information from several cooperating witnesses on Long Island indicate Blige and other stars were shipped prescribed human growth hormone or steroids -- sometimes under fictitious names -- at hotels, production studios, private residences, an upscale Manhattan fitness club and through the Long Island office of Michael Diamond, a chiropractor affiliated with the celebrities, sources said.

Diamond, who has not been identified as a target in the case or accused of breaking any laws, helps run an anti-aging program at Clay Gym in Manhattan, according to the company's Web site.

The Albany investigation became a nationwide spectacle last February when authorities raided a Palm Beach County wellness center and the offices of Signature Compounding Pharmacy in downtown Orlando. The wellness center's owners and the pharmacy's operators are awaiting trial in Albany on charges related to the sale of millions of dollars worth of prescription drugs, mostly steroids, through a suspected criminal enterprise involving allegedly corrupt physicians and a series of anti-aging "clinics" that advertised predominantly through the Internet.

In the past year the case has netted 10 guilty pleas, including felony convictions of three physicians and several operators of anti-aging clinics in Texas, Florida and New York.

Along the way it has exposed allegations of steroid use by Major League Baseball players, pro wrestlers, NFL figures, police officers, prison guards, top-ranked body builders, people with ties to high school and college wrestling programs, and now, celebrities.

In a brief interview at his Patchtogue office Friday, Diamond said patient privacy laws prohibit him from discussing the stars he has treated or why.

"I don't have anything to do with athletes, I don't do athletes," Diamond said. "Anyone that wants to publicly state that they work with me can do so, it's just I'm not allowed legally to state who I treat or who I don't treat."

Still, it appears evident Diamond caters to famous clients as evidenced by the many stars, including Steven Seagal, whose photographs -- some autographed to Diamond -- adorn his office's walls.

"Because of this recent development as far as what I found out was going on with (Signature) pharmacy I was approached and I was ... told not to discuss anything right now ... because there's investigations going on," Diamond said, not elaborating.

Diamond said he had previously met officials from Signature pharmacy at anti-aging conventions, but that he learned of the year-old criminal case only recently.

Entertainers using steroids is not new. Last year, Hollywood action-film stalwart Sylvester Stallone paid a $2,975 fine in Australia to settle criminal charges he illegally possessed vials of steroids and human growth hormone discovered during a customs inspection of his luggage.

Stallone, 61, said he needed the drugs to treat his body for a slowdown of his pituitary gland production of growth hormone and for the grueling training he's done over the years making films, according to the Australian Associated Press.
But taking the substances in an effort to slow aging or promote healing, which is an unproven claim, is not an allowable reason for a physician to prescribe steroids or growth hormone.

Dr. S. Jay Olshansky, an epidemiologist and co-author of a report on growth hormone published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, said celebrities identified as customers is not surprising.

"In the end the story is less about the entertainers and the athletes and more about the people who are providing them with the drugs," Olshansky said. "They can't get those drugs without somebody with a degree giving it to them."

Still, big names draw interest, including in Congress, where hearings are set to begin this week on a report issued last month by former Sen. George Mitchell that exposed widespread steroids abuse in professional baseball.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., is pushing a bill that would make human growth hormone a controlled substance, like anabolic steroids. Human growth hormone currently is not a controlled substance under federal law, which means it is not a crime to possess the drug and the federal government has minimal control over its production and distribution, Schumer said.

Albany County District Attorney David Soares declined to confirm information about, or to comment on, celebrities named in this report.

Soares said his decision more than two years ago to pursue the case was less about exposing the drug use of athletes or celebrities and more about dismantling a drug pipeline that has funneled millions of dollars in steroids and other drugs into New York. The state has some of the strictest prescription laws in the country and prosecutors said it's unlawful here for a physician, even from another state, to prescribe drugs to a New York patient they never examined.

HGH production declines naturally in a person as he or she grows older. Pharmaceutical versions of the hormone cannot be taken orally and must be injected.

Olshansky, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Illinois' Chicago School of Public Health, said federal regulations also make it illegal for a physician to prescribe growth hormone to a patient he hasn't examined. In order to diagnose a patient with growth hormone deficiency, a rare condition affecting about one in 10,000 people, the physician must conduct a time-consuming, expensive test in which hormones are intravenously infused in patients while monitoring their pituitary gland.

"These doctors who are administering growth hormone without ever seeing patients should be in jail," Olshansky said. "The risks are documented."

Soares, who is in his inaugural term as district attorney, compares the Internet-fueled industry to the powerful cocaine cartels of the 1980s. He pointed out that Stan and Naomi Loomis, the husband and wife owners of the brick-and-mortar Signature pharmacy, own multimillion dollar properties and a fleet of expensive sports cars and boats.

"They're living the lifestyle of the Tony Montanas of the '70s and '80s because they're drug dealers," Soares said, referring to the character made famous by Al Pacino in the movie Scarface. "Our purpose here is more regulation. We want consistency state-to-state and we want tougher regulation over this cyber-economy that right now pretty much anyone with a computer can go out and obtain ... things that shouldn't be obtained without the control or observation of a treating physician."

Signature's attorneys have scoffed at the prosecutor's characterization of their business, claiming no laws were violated because doctors signed the prescriptions they processed.

Dr. Thomas Perls, an internist and associate professor of medicine at Boston University Medical Center, specializes in the study of aging and co-wrote the report on human growth hormone with Olshansky. Perls said industry estimates show that tens of thousands of people nationwide are injecting themselves with steroids and growth hormone, a dangerous drug that he said is routinely and illegally prescribed for anti-aging purposes.

The drug, which is normally used to treat children who suffer rare growth defects, may cause a person to age faster, Perls said. It also can trigger cancer, diabetes, arthritis and other health problems. If someone with cancerous cells takes the drug it's akin to throwing gas on a fire, Olshansky and Perls both said.

"If you look at the dollar amounts that are trading hands here there has to be thousands of people who are doing this and to call it a public health crisis is right on the money," Perls said. "The impact is lost a little bit if people think we're just dealing with a few folks who show up in People magazine."

According to records reviewed by the Times Union, Blige and the other stars received prescriptions that allegedly were signed by Dr. Gary Brandwein, a South Florida osteopath who has pleaded not guilty in Albany to a felony indictment charging him with various drug-related crimes.

Brandwein, through his attorney, Terence Kindlon, declined comment.

According to sources familiar with the investigation, Diamond was questioned recently by state Health Department investigators because he has done business with Anthony Forgione, a former New York Police Department officer arrested last November on charges of selling steroids through a Delray Beach, Fla., anti-aging clinic, Infinity Longevity.

Brandwein, free on bond since his arrest 10 months ago, drew national attention last summer when it was reported he'd previously prescribed steroids for Chris Benoit, a pro wrestler who murdered his wife and son at their Georgia home before committing suicide. Authorities said Benoit had 10 times the normal levels of testosterone in his body at the time though there's no evidence steroids played a role.

Brendan J. Lyons can be reached at 454-5547 or by e-mail at blyons@timesunion.com.

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Jacobi

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"The drug, which is normally used to treat children who suffer rare growth defects, may cause a person to age faster, Perls said. It also can trigger cancer, diabetes, arthritis and other health problems. If someone with cancerous cells takes the drug it's akin to throwing gas on a fire, Olshansky and Perls both said."

Well that's their own decision
Governments imo don't have any right to tell people what they are allowed to do to their own body
 

Teddman

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Edward Norton. Stallone (duh). Demi Moore (Striptease). Christian Bale. Toby Maguire. Brad Pitt. Will Smith. John Favreau. etc.

Whenever you see an actor all of a sudden more buff than he used to be, it's probably juice.

"Wow, look how fast Bale gained back that muscle for Batman after being all emaciated in The Machinist!" Gee, I wonder how?
 

Teddman

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Snidely Whiplash said:
So steroids make you get fat?
Yes, they do. Or rather, using steroids to bulk up big for a movie role, then discontinuing both steroid use and workouts after the movie wraps.
 
Teddman said:
Yes, they do. Or rather, using steroids to bulk up big for a movie role, then discontinuing both steroid use and workouts after the movie wraps.
So then why did Christian Bale get to fat for Batman Begins and then have to lose weight for the filming of the movie? Must be steroids right, he couldn't have just eaten or something?
 

Teddman

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Snidely Whiplash said:
So then why did Christian Bale get to fat for Batman Begins and then have to lose weight for the filming of the movie? Must be steroids right, he couldn't have just eaten or something?
Yeah, I'll try that 'just eating' thing and see if my arms get to his size in BB.

He gained 100 lbs. of muscle in five months.
 
Teddman said:
Yeah, I'll try that 'just eating' thing and see if my arms get to his size in BB.

He gained 100 lbs. of muscle in five months.
100 lbs of fat some of which he had to lose before they started filming. Of course he was working out for those 5 months too.
 
Teddman said:
Yeah, I'll try that 'just eating' thing and see if my arms get to his size in BB.

He gained 100 lbs. of muscle in five months.

did you watch BB? he was kind of flabby in some scenes in Begins.

he didnt stop working out while they were filming.
 

Teddman

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Snidely Whiplash said:
100 lbs of fat some of which he had to lose before they started filming. Of course he was working out for those 5 months too.
This is how steroids work. You bulk up with one steroid and then use a cutting cycle and a different 'roid (Winstrol usually) to burn off the water and fat. Anyway, choose to believe it or not...
 
Teddman said:
This is how steroids work. You bulk up with one steroid and then use a cutting cycle and a different 'roid (Winstrol usually) to burn off the water and fat. Anyway, choose to believe it or not...
Of course I'm not going to believe some random poster on GAF's opinion.:lol
 

Brannon

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If there is another guy out there named Sylvester Stallone who also starred in several Rocky and Rambo movies but couldn't take these current roles because THIS Sly gained an unfair advantage with steroids, please show me him. Otherwise the media is just running out of stuff to talk about. Which is fucking impossible considering these last few weeks.
 
esbern said:
every single actor in 300 and Christian Bale for Batman. Not even a fucking question.
I'm pretty sure it is a question. Why wouldn't he do the same for TDK then? He was bigger than he was in The Machinist but in TDK he's not nearly as big as he was in BB? Why didn't he just steroid it up?
 
esbern said:
every single actor in 300 and Christian Bale for Batman. Not even a fucking question.

I refuse to believe either of those.

I remember watching a making of 300 thing and they showed the actors doing hardcore training, HARDCORE TRAINING.

I dont know why people refuse to believe that no one can get muscular by working out, it can happen.
 

darscot

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Anyone that believes Bale gained that muscle naturaly fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down.

I'ld throw Will Smith in there too just compare the Fresh Prince to I Roboot.
 
darscot said:
Anyone that believes Bale gained that muscle naturaly fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down.

I'ld throw Will Smith in there too just compare the Fresh Prince to I Roboot.
Do you know what time is?
 
Linkzg said:
I refuse to believe either of those.

I remember watching a making of 300 thing and they showed the actors doing hardcore training, HARDCORE TRAINING.

I dont know why people refuse to believe that no one can get muscular by working out, it can happen.


Nobody is saying that, But there is a limit to natural growth.

You still have to work your ass off even if you're doing steroids.
 

darscot

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Snidely Whiplash said:
Do you know what time is?

Time is one thing but completely changing your physical make up is something else. You dont go from tall skrawny black dude to massive beef cake after you have completely finnished growing.
 
darscot said:
Time is one thing but completely changing your physical make up is something else. You dont go from tall skrawny black dude to massive beef cake after your completely finnished growing.
He's still tall and he was never scrawny. Yeah he was thin but he still had muscle in Fresh Prince just like Carlton.
 

OmniGamer

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darscot said:
Anyone that believes Bale gained that muscle naturaly fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down.

I'ld throw Will Smith in there too just compare the Fresh Prince to I Roboot.

First off, goddamn you for making me defend Will Smith...

Now to the point...there's a little movie called "ALI" in between there, which he trained for and he retained some of that bulk. It's not like he looks like Michael Clark Duncan or anything. He's always had a nice body, it's just in a different "type" now.

The one thing I hate about the whole steroids thing is that it's getting to the point where anyone with a "pretty nice" body is accused of taking steroids. It's as if people don't realize what the human body is really capable of when pushed/honed because we live in such a sedentary society.
 

esbern

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Linkzg said:
I refuse to believe either of those.

I remember watching a making of 300 thing and they showed the actors doing hardcore training, HARDCORE TRAINING.

I dont know why people refuse to believe that no one can get muscular by working out, it can happen.


of course you train, thats how roids works.....how does this disprove the roids?
 

darscot

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OmniGamer said:
First off, goddamn you for making me defend Will Smith...

Now to the point...there's a little movie called "ALI" in between there, which he trained for and he retained some of that bulk. It's not like he looks like Michael Clark Duncan or anything. He's always had a nice body, it's just in a different "type" now.

The one thing I hate about the whole steroids thing is that it's getting to the point where anyone with a "pretty nice" body is accused of taking steroids. It's as if people don't realize what the human body is really capable of when pushed/honed because we live in such a sedentary society.

I probable should have said ALI as that was when he first started his transformation, but the guy was huge in I Robot.
 

Darko

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darscot said:
Time is one thing but completely changing your physical make up is something else. You dont go from tall skrawny black dude to massive beef cake after you have completely finnished growing.

fresh prince to irobot? are you serious :lol

1996-2004
 

darscot

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You guys can believe what you want. I just find it odd that every dude I know that takes the stuff always comments on how the celebs get the good stuff.
 
darscot said:
You guys can believe what you want. I just find it odd that every dude I know that takes the stuff always comments on how the celebs get the good stuff.
I'm sure all your workout buddies down at The White Swallow know all the celebs they gossip about. *rolleyes*
 
Snidely Whiplash said:
So then why did Christian Bale get to fat for Batman Begins and then have to lose weight for the filming of the movie? Must be steroids right, he couldn't have just eaten or something?
Steroids plus a lot of food. You don't get big without eating, steroids or no steroids.
 

OmniGamer

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HUGE in I Robot? I think you're letting definition/tone warp your size of proportion a bit. Take two random people, same height, let's say 5'10", person A is 170lbs lean muscular, person B is 170lbs average/slightly soft...same height, same weight, different composition, person A will "look bigger" despite not being bigger.

It should also be known that the type of training these actors go on are structured for these kinds of huge gains(or cuts) in a short period of time...they eat like 8 times a day, intense training, etc...it's not a routine built for long term use as it's a lot of wear and tear. There was a special on Terminator 3 on E! or something and the "Terminatrix" chick said in amazement how high-tech her training was and how they monitored her blood levels to determine optimal times for her high protein meals. Hugh Jackman also said how crazy his training was for him to bulk up for wolverine(I saw a scene of him doing Dumbell forward lunges on a treadmill!)...and in X1 he was still training while doing the movie and the scene with him cage fighting was filmed later on in development(might have been the last scene, i forget), and he's more bulked than when he was shirtless in the medic room with Jean Grey.

And in Bale's case, his condition in the machinist was extreme...the moment you go back to any normal eating, you're going to put on weight extremely fast...and he was already muscular before(American Psycho)...muscle memory and all that jazz.
 
darscot said:
I just remember sittin in the theater watching I Robot and my "hittin the gym buddies" all commented on how well he cycled for the role. That pic I don't believe is from I Robot he looks more his normal size in that.

http://www.squarehippies.com/actors/2006/08/will-smith/

He's obviously carrying a lot of water weight and fat weight on i.robot. But that's not a steroid body. Off all the people who would be taking steroids, will smith is the least one that looks like it.
 
OmniGamer said:
Exactly...go to any random basketball court or playground "in the hood" and you'll see some guys working out, playing handball or basketball looking just like that.

yup there's a difference between being huge and just being cut. Someone like Timberland is huge, but he probably doesn't have that much definition, let alone a six pack. He's like prison big, and they don't (usually) have steroids in prison. soneome like will smith, who is already naturally in good shape to begin with adn has access to all the best trainers and nutritionists that money can buy could easily get like that without needing streroids or HGH.
 

guidop

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Funny thing is i was looking at the workout that the 300 guys did before i clicked on this thread http://www.gymjones.com/knowledge.php?id=35

Timbaland was an obvious one for me. MJB shock me though i didn't expect her to be doing them. As for the 300 guys i think some did and some didn't, i refuse to believe that David Wenham used roids
 

darscot

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Like I said he does look more his natural build in the first pic posted. Which i believe is from I am Legend. When you look at the pics from I Robot he is pretty damn beefy. I'm no expert on the stuff I just take the word of the people I know that are. Especially the guys that know them well because they use them.
 
Greatness Gone said:
Christian Bale can alter his body in any way, at any time. He is like the Welsh version of Dr. Manhattan.

or Clayface (to keep with the Batman theme)

esbern said:
of course you train, thats how roids works.....how does this disprove the roids?

im saying any of them could have trained hard without roids.

I dont think everyone is clean (like Con Air is on right now, I wouldent be surprised if Cage tooked them to get a little muscle), but not everyone is juiced up.
 

OmniGamer

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Linkzg said:
or Clayface (to keep with the Batman theme)



im saying any of them could have trained hard without roids.

I dont think everyone is clean (like Con Air is on right now, I wouldent be surprised if Cage tooked them to get a little muscle), but not everyone is juiced up.

Cage was "buff" since the 80s...particularly a movie called The Boy in Blue...besides, when Con Air came out he was only like 33-34 years old...hardly over the hill and incapable of having a well sculpted body.
 
Snidely Whiplash said:
So then why did Christian Bale get to fat for Batman Begins and then have to lose weight for the filming of the movie? Must be steroids right, he couldn't have just eaten or something?
Under perfect circumstances and with a strict routine an average male can gain around 2 pounds of muscle per month. Even with the best dietician and superhuman genetics there is no way to physically gain 20 pounds of muscle per month, without growth enhancing drugs.

I don't give a fuck how quick you bulked up your Sims characters; it just isn't happening.
 
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