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[jarrod]

Triforce and System 246 designs are shared with other companies.

System 246 isn't even shared, it's all Namco's. Does Sega have to share some degree of revenue from TriForce games with Nintendo and Namco though?

 

[Sho Nuff]

Hunh, I thought Key of Avalon was NAOMI?

BTW, Ollie King is great. The producer was one of the key JSRF staffers and the soundtrack is FUCKING AWESOME because it's 100% Hideki Naganuma.

 

[Wario64]

Ollie King's music does rock, gets constant play time in my player

So will it actually be possible to gets these Chihiro games running (on Xbox)? Pretty interesting news though

 

[Renegade]

What's Sega's excuse for not making Ollie King for the Xbox now?

 

[Sho Nuff]

The same reason they didn't port Top Skater -- it's over in like 10 minutes.

 

[Renegade]

I'd buy it for 9.99

 

[BuddyC]

i love that they're using a dreamcast. go team dreamcast!

 

[isamu]

Like I said in another thread, fuck these other boards...bring on model 4.

fixed

 

[Meier]

Hunh, I thought Key of Avalon was NAOMI?

Nope, TriForce. Was a pretty big deal when it was announced since there werent many games for the board yet... and it's been one of their most sucessful titles since.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

"I just want you to know my real name! It's Xbox!"

 

[Shinobi]

fixed

Haha, same diff to me.

 

[DopeyFish]

I think the cooler news is they can start working on porting some other games to arcade units.

 

[FortNinety]

Question: is the GD-ROM that is used the game format as the Dreamcast's? Did Sega create the format in the first place?

 

[BuddyC]

Question: is the GD-ROM that is used the game format as the Dreamcast's? Did Sega create the format in the first place?

Definite yes to the first question, and I'm pretty sure that Sega created the format much the same way Nintendo created the GC discs.

 

[jarrod]

Just for fun, here's the Naomi family stuff too...

NAOMI (Sega owned)
-18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker (Sega-AM2) DC/PS2/GC
-Airline Pilots: Virtual Flight Simulator (Wow Entertainment)
-Alienfront Online (Wow Entertainment) DC
-Azumanga Daioh Puzzle Bobble (Moss)
-Bingo Party (Sega Mechatronics)
-Bingo Party Splash SP (Sega Mechatronics)
-Boat Race: Ocean Hearts (Sega Mechatronics)
-Border Down (G.Rev) DC
-Canon Spike (Psikyo) DC
-Capcom vs SNK: Millenium Fight 2000 (Capcom Studio 1) DC
-Capcom vs SNK: Millenium Fight 2000 Pro (Capcom Studio 1) DC/PS1
-Capcom vs SNK 2: Mark of the Milennium 2001 (Capcom Studio 1) DC/PS2/GC/XB
-Charge N' Blast (Sims) DC/PC/GC
-Chaos Field (Able)
-Confidential Mission (Hitmaker!) DC
-Cosmic Smash (Sega Rosso) DC
-Crackin' DJ (Hitmaker!)
-Crackin' DJ 2 (Hitmaker!)
-Crazy Taxi (Hitmaker!) DC/PC/PS2/GC
-Crazy Taxi 2 (Hitmaker!) DC
-Dead or Alive 2 (Team Ninja) DC/PS2
-Dead or Alive 2 Millennium (Team Ninja)
-Death Crimson OX (Ecole) DC/PS2
-Derby Owners Club (Hitmaker!)
-Derby Owners Club 2 (Hitmaker!)
-Derby Owners Club 2 Ver.2 (Hitmaker!)
-Derby Owners Club 2 Ver.2.1 (Hitmaker!)
-Derby Owners Club 2000 (Hitmaker!)
-Derby Owners Club World Edition (Hitmaker!)
-Dog Walking (Wow Entertianment)
-Dragon Treasure (Sega Wow)
-Dragon Treasure II (Sega Wow)
-Dynamite Baseball '98: Sega Professional Baseball (Wow Entertainment)
-Dynamite Baseball '99: Sega Professional Baseball (Wow Entertainment)
-F1 World Grand Prix (Video System) DC
-F335 Challenge (Sega-AM2) DC/PS2
-F355 Challenge Twin (Sega-AM2)
-F355 Challenge 2: International Course Edition (Sega-AM2) DC/PS2
-F355 Challenge 2: International Course Edition Twin (Sega-AM2)
-Fish Live (Sega Mechatronics)
-Formation Battle In May (Seta)
-Giant Gram 2: All Japan Pro Wrestling In Nippon Budokan (Wow Entertainment) DC
-Giant Gram 2000: All Japan Pro Wrestling 3: Brave Men Of Glory (Wow Entertainment) DC
-Gigawing 2 (Takumi) DC
-Guilty Gear X (Arc System Works) DC/PS2/PC/GBA
-Guilty Gear XX : The Midnight Carnival (Arc System Works) PS2
-Guilty Gear XX : The Midnight Carnival #reload (Arc System Works) PS2/XB/PC
-Heavy Metal : Geomatrix (Capcom Studio 1) DC
-Idol Janshi Suchipai 3 (Jaleco)
-Ikaruga (Treasure) DC/GC
-Jambo! Safari (Hitmaker!)
-La Keyboard (Sega Rosso)
-Lupin III the Shooting (Wow Entertainment)
-Lupin III the Typing (Wow Entertainment)
-Marvel Vs Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes (Capcom Studio 1) DC/PS2/XB
-Mazan: Flash of the Blade (Namco AM)
-Melty Blood: ACT Candenza (Ecole) PC
-Mushihimesama (Cave)
-Mobile Suit Gundam: Federation Vs Zion (Capcom Studio 1) DC
-Mobile Suit Gundam: Federation Vs Zion DX (Capcom Studio 1) DC/PS2
-Monkey Ball (Amusement Vision) GC
-Musapey's Choco Marker (Compile) DC
-New Japan Pro Wrestling Toukon Retsuden IV (Yukes) DC/PS2
-Ninja Assault (Namco AM) PS2
-Out Triggers: International Counter Terrorist Special Forces (Sega-AM2) DC
-Pochinya (Compile) NeoGeo/PS2
-PowerStone (Capcom Studio 1) DC
-PowerStone 2 (Capcom Studio 1) DC
-Prayer Great: Gracious God Festival (Wakae)
-Project Justice: Rival Schools 2 (Capcom Studio 1) DC
-Psyvariar 2: the Will to Fabricate (Success) DC/PS2/XB
-Puyo Puyo Da! (Compile) DC
-Puyo Puyo Fever (Sonic Team) DC/PS2/GC/XB/Mac/GBA/PC/PSP
-Puzzle Kurutto Stone (Wow Entertainment)
-Quiz Ah My Goddess (Overworks) DC
-Rabbit 2 (Taito)
-Resident Evil Survivor 2: Code: Veronica (Capcom Studio 3) PS2
-Ring Out 4x4 (Sims)
-Samba de Amigo (Sonic Team) DC
-Sambo de Amigo ver.2000 (Sonic Team) DC
-Sega Bass Fishing 2 (Wow Entertianmnet) DC/PC
-Sega Marine Fishing (Wow Entertainment) DC
-Sega Network Taisen MJ (Sega-AM2)
-Sega Sports Jam (Wow Entertainment) DC/PC
-Sega Strike Fighter (Wow Entertainment)
-Sega Taisen MJ (Sega-AM2)
-Sega Tetris (Wow Entertainment) DC
-Shakka to Tambourine (Sonic Team) PS1
-Shakka to Tambourine 2001 (Sonic Team)
-Shakka to Tambourine 2001: Power Up! (Sonic Team)
-Shikigami No Shiro II (Alfa System) DC/GC/PS2/XB
-ShootOut Pool (Sega Mechatronics)
-ShootOut Pool Prize (Sega Mechatronics)
-Slash Out (Amusement Vision)
-Spawn: In the Demon's Hand (Capcom Studio 1) DC
-Spiker's Battle (Amusment Vision)
-Star Horse (Sega Mechatronics)
-Star Horse 2001 (Sega Mechatronics)
-Star Horse 2002 (Sega Mechatronics)
-Star Horse Progress: Glory at the Track (Sega Mechatronics)
-Street Fighter Alpha 3 Upper (Capcom Studio 1) PS1/DC/Saturn/GBA
-Su-Chi-Pai 3 (Jaleco)
-The House of the Dead II (Wow Entertainment) DC/PC
-The Maze Of the Kings (Hitmaker!)
-The Quiz Show (Hitmaker!)
-The Typing of the Dead (Smilebit) DC/PC
-Tokyo Bus Tour (FortyFive) DC/PS2
-Touch De Uno (Hitmaker!)
-Touch De Uno 2 (Hitmaker!)
-Toy Fighter (Genki)
-TriZeal (Triangle Service)
-Uopoko (Cave)
-Usagi: The Arcade (Warashi)
-Virtua Athlete (Wow Entertainment) DC/PS2
-Virtua Golf: Sega Professional Golf (Sega Wow)
-Virtua NBA (Amusment Vision)
-Virtua Striker 2 ver.2000 (Amusement Vision) DC
-Virtua Tennis: Sega Professional Tennis (Hitmaker!) DC/PC
-Virtua Tennis 2: Sega Professional Tennis (Hitmaker!) DC/PS2
-Virtual On: Oratortio Tangram MSBS Ver 5.4 (Hitmaker!) DC
-Wave Runner GP (Wow Entertainment)
-World Kicks (Namco AM)
-World Series '99: Go to the Dream Ballpark (Wow Entertainment) DC
-World Series Baseball 2001 (Wow Entertainment) DC
-WWF Royal Rumble (Yukes) DC
-Zero Gunner 2 (Psikyo) DC
-Zombie Revenge (Wow Entertainment) DC
-Zooo (Success) PS2/GBA

NAOMI 2 (Sega owned)
-Beach Spikers: Virtua Beach Volleyball (Sega-AM2) GC
-Beetle Mushi King (Wow Entertainment)
-Club Kart: European Session (Hitmaker!)
-Club Kart Prize (Hitmaker!)
-Initial D : Arcade Stage (Sega Rosso) PS2
-Initial D : Arcade Stage Ver 2 (Sega Rosso) PS2
-Initial D : Arcade Stage Ver 3 (Hitmaker!)
-Sega Driving Simulator (Sega Mechatronics)
-Soul Surfer (Sega Rosso)
-The King Of Route 66 (Sega-AM2) PS2
-Virtua Fighter 4 (Sega-AM2) PS2
-Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution (Sega-AM2) PS2
-Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution Ver.B (Sega-AM2) PS2
-Virtua Fighter 4: Final Tuned (Sega-AM2)
-Virtua Striker III (Amusment Vision) GC
-Wild Riders (Wow Entertainment)
-World Club Champion Football Series A 2001-2002 (Hitmaker!)
-World Club Champion Football Series A 2001-2002 Ver.2 (Hitmaker!)
-World Club Champion Football Series A 2002-2003 (Hitmaker!)
-World Club Champion Football Series A 2002-2003 Ver.2 (Hitmaker!)
-World Club Champion Football Series A 2002-2003 Ver.3 (Hitmaker!)

HIKARU (Sega owned)
-Air Trix (Hitmaker!)
-Brave Fire Fighters (Wow Entertainment)
-Cyber Troopers: Virtual On Force (Hitmaker!)
-NASCAR Arcade (Sega Rosso)
-Star Wars Racer Arcade (Sega Rosso)
-Planet Harriers (Amusement Vision)

...I *think* that's everything (even the medal based stuff), let me know if anything's wrong/missing.

 

[jarrod]

Definite yes to the first question, and I'm pretty sure that Sega created the format much the same way Nintendo created the GC discs.

GD-ROM was developed by Yamaha for Sega. It's used in Dreamcast, Naomi, Naomi 2, TriForce anbd Chihiro platforms. GOD (GameCube Optical Disc) was developed by Matsushita for Nintendo.

 

[pcostabel]

"I just want you to know my real name! It's Xbox!"

Lol! I wonder how many people got this joke.

 

[Wario64]

Lol! I wonder how many people got this joke.

I chuckled too

 

[BuddyC]

GD-ROM was developed by Yamaha for Sega. It's used in Dreamcast, Naomi, Naomi 2, TriForce anbd Chihiro platforms. GOD (GameCube Optical Disc) was developed by Matsushita for Nintendo.

Those were the specifics I was looking for, thanks jarrod

It just didn't seem right to me that either company could create or heavily modify a new/existing form of optical media, but the inflection I was going for didn't ring through right.

 

[Tsubaki]

Q: What exactly is Chihiro?

A: An XBox with GD-ROM connector and more optional RAM. That's it.

Going back to the original post, what is the point of this news in the first place?

Chihiro is an XB with more RAM, just as the ST-V is a Saturn with more RAM, just as NAOMI is a Dreamcast with more RAM. There's nothing surprising about this at all.

 

[BuddyC]

Going back to the original post, what is the point of this news in the first place?

Chihiro is an XB with more RAM, just as the ST-V is a Saturn with more RAM, just as NAOMI is a Dreamcast with more RAM. There's nothing surprising about this at all.

It means that they can rip the GD-ROMs using a Dreamcast and play them on a modded Xbox, thus bringing the arcade home without waiting on Sega to port the games. Course, the problem is how much extra RAM the games require...but...

 

[Lazy8s]

Arcade OutRun 2 uses 128 MB RAM. Getting all of the tracks to fit on Xbox was the main challenge when going down to its 64 MB, but that was handled faithfully with smarter loading.

 

[Hotsuma]

So, what will Sega have to do in order to stop this? Will they just stop using GDROMs with Chihiro?

 

[cybamerc]

What's Sega's excuse for not making Ollie King for the Xbox now?

That it won't sell. Not that that has stopped them in the past.