archnemesis
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Do you think their desire for independence would be as great if they were allowed to express their culture and religion more openly and freely?
China bans Uighur Muslim students from fasting during Ramadan
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archnemesis
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I would be interested to read any scientific study proving it. Can you link me to one?
SquiddyCracker
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How old are these students?
Because it says on wikipedia that:
Because it says on wikipedia that:
andthebeatgoeson
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So they make them go to school and everyone is 'expected' to eat a ham sandwich or something? That's fucked up.
andthebeatgoeson
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15741046/
'Fasting benefits pubmed' in Google
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/1/7.full
Restricting calories is the basis of gastric bypass and that has been shown to overwhelmingly benefit people and their health.
And people have done it for thousands of years.
archnemesis
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Oh yeah, that paper made it to the mainstream media back in 2005. I was hoping for a study on the effects of fasting in humans. I'm mostly curious to see if fasting is healthy if you keep same amount of total consumed calories.
This is an awful argument. Blood-letting used to be a common practice when it's actually only useful in a few special cases.
Being an Uyghur myself this is not really new and it isn't limited to students. Lots of times employers will force Uyghur employees to eat and drink in front them else they get fired. But the gist of the situation is that they are trying to kill the culture and are slowly but surely succeeding. Its pretty depressing.
Necromanti
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I'm pretty sure many of my classmates while growing up fasted since they were in the first grade. But really, it gets hard to criticize practices that are so deeply tied to a culture since there will always be rituals that may seem absurd from an outside perspective. Leeway is fine if there is no permanent damage caused by a tradition. It's only the lack of water that worries me at times, especially in countries with very high temperatures.
The only really scary thing during Ramadan in some Muslim-majority countries is being on the road. Ramadan usually has the highest number of accidents and automobile fatalities out of any other time of the year. Whether it is the rushing home for iftar or affected judgment due to a lack of water and food that are factors, it certainly affects road safety. For some, though, I suppose it is auspicious to die during that time period.
To go back on topic, though, China's solution is obviously discriminatory in nature. I'm glad there haven't been any responses deeming replies and complaints in the thread as being "too PC".
The only really scary thing during Ramadan in some Muslim-majority countries is being on the road. Ramadan usually has the highest number of accidents and automobile fatalities out of any other time of the year. Whether it is the rushing home for iftar or affected judgment due to a lack of water and food that are factors, it certainly affects road safety. For some, though, I suppose it is auspicious to die during that time period.
To go back on topic, though, China's solution is obviously discriminatory in nature. I'm glad there haven't been any responses deeming replies and complaints in the thread as being "too PC".
Lamel
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That's kind of fucked up.
Why are you comparing blood letting to fasting?
archnemesis
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I'm not. I was giving an example of why it's bad to continue doing something just because "people have done it for thousands of years". It's not a valid argument.
Instigator
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Yes since China is massively sending Han Chinese settlers to the area. Even with greater freedom, their Uighur voice would be drown out.
Lamel
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The point I was trying to make was that people have safely fasted, and continue to do so, in some of the harshest conditions in the world.
I used thousands of years to emphasize that this was a time before any modern conveniences either.
andthebeatgoeson
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Any study on humans and eating will be tough. Hard to make a prospective double blind study like this. Nor do you want to keep the same amount of calories. Fasting is good because you consume less calories.
archnemesis
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People often say they gain weight during Ramadan which goes against the claim that you consume less calories when fasting. I agree that less calories is better for most people, especially in the west.
Lamel
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I have personally seen the weight gain example as a case where they eat fatty fried foods, which are very common during breaking the fast. As well as sugary drinks, fruits, and starches. People do love to inhale and binge after breaking the fast.
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