Chinese shuns green vehicles, only one prius sold last year.

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Ripclawe

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/24/china-cars-green-vehicles

China's love affair with the car shuns green vehicles

Country overtakes the US to become world's largest automobile market, as global sales pass the 1bn mark
Jonathan Watts in Beijing


Beijing used to be famous for the millions of bicycles thronging its streets. But it is the success of the motor car there and in other Chinese mega-cities that has now tipped the number of cars in the world over the 1bn mark.

According to a report by the trade journal Ward's, 35m new cars and lorries were sold worldwide last year – the second-biggest increase ever recorded. That is 95,500 extra vehicles being added to the global traffic jam every day.

Almost half of the new growth is in China, which recently overtook the US as the world's biggest car market thanks to the sales of 13.8m new passenger vehicles. Despite the surge in sales, car ownership in China is still only half the global average.


But hopes that the country will also become a pioneer in the shift towards "clean car" technology have suffered a setback as the Chinese show little sign of interest in electric and hybrid vehicles despite ambitious government plans. Last year, Toyota managed to sell only one Prius – the world's most commercially successful hybrid car – in the fastest-growing market. Sports utility vehicle sales, by contrast, are surging.

This is not just affecting Toyota. It had been hoped that government subsidies and policy support would help China's manufacturers, such as BYD, to leapfrog better established overseas rivals by mass-producing electric cars.

But BYD has scaled back its ambitions after failing to find a market because of costs, safety concerns and underdeveloped battery technology. Reflecting the lack of progress, Prime Minister Wen Jiabao recently published an article in a Communist party journal calling for a rethink of China's "road map" towards alternative powertrain vehicles – those that do not rely only on a conventional internal combustion engine.

In a report earlier this week, IHS Automotive, a Shanghai-based consultancy, said the takeup for such vehicles was far behind the government's time-frame. It noted, too, the lack of interest in the Prius, which has witnessed sales in China fall from about 200 in 2009 to just one in 2010. It is not known who made that solitary purchase – industry analysts said it was unlikely to be an individual as there is little technical support for the model. "It may be a domestic rival that bought the hybrid to strip it down and see how it works," said one industry observer who did not want to be named.

Among registrations of new passenger cars were 850,000 SUVs – a rise of 24% – including 425 Hummers. Since then car sales have flattened but the luxury sector is still surging.

Thanks largely to its business in China, Mercedes announced earlier this year the highest monthly worldwide car sales in the company's 110-year history. BMW, Audi and Rolls-Royce are also recording strong sales which have pushed China to the forefront of their global strategies.

This runs directly opposite to the government's stated goal of creating a more equal, environmentally friendly nation, suggesting a change of strategy may be needed. The state is unlikely to completely abandon its promotion of "clean" car technology, but it may have to revise its plans.

The government's current aim is to put 1m "new energy" vehicles on the roads by 2015 – electrics and plug-in hybrids – but this now looks overambitious. Despite subsidies of 60,000 yuan (£5,700) for pure electric vehicles and 50,000 yuan (£4,700) for plug-in hybrids in five pilot cities, there have been few buyers because regular cars are still cheaper and more reliable.

According to IHS Automotive, electric vehicles sales are unlikely to reach a tenth of the state's target over the next five years. Rather than jump directly to electric cars, it now expects bureaucrats to pay more attention to hybrid cars and fuel-efficient conventional vehicles. Although "in the long term pure [electric vehicles] may still become mainstream, it is welcome to see the government slowly but surely recognising that its targets are inflated," IHS noted.

Many are still betting on the Chinese market. GreenTech Automotive of the US recently announced a venture with Shengyang ZhongRui to create a plant in Inner Mongolia with capacity to build 300,000 electric and hybrid cars a year.

Between 2000 and 2010, the number of cars and motorcycles in China increased twentyfold. In the next 20 years it is forecast to more than double again, which means there will be more cars in China in 2030 than there were in the entire world in 2000.

The big brands argue that there is room for growth. Only one in 16 Chinese people owns a car, which is less than half the global average. If the country were to match the three-in-four ownership levels of the US, that would mean an extra 900m vehicles.

Given the frequent traffic congestion and smog even at current levels, it is hard to imagine that ever happening. Even if all the new cars were hybrid or electric, the congestion would be incredible. Beijing has already begun restricting new licence registrations. Sales have flattened.

"Green growth" now looks a less likely prospect than a simple market slowdown.
 

Physalis

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I was in Beijing this past June, and there were a ridiculous amount of Audis, Volkswagens, and Jeeps. Like, a sea of them.

Plus, the Chinese have their own re-branded cars that are usually SUV/van-types of cars. I think I saw maybe 3 or 4 Prius', mostly the Honda City and Civic from the compact crowd. So, I completely believe this.
 

Wanace

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There are a shitload of Peugeot, BMW, Audi, and GM cars on the road here.

I don't think I've seen many Toyotas on the road, period. It's possible they are just not in style.

There's this one bitch who tries to run me over in her Buick Regal every day.

There are far bigger environmental issues with vehicles in China than selling green cars, for instance the millions of electric scooters they sell each year which use lead batteries.
 
Misanthropy said:
I fucking HATE status symbols! Everyone should be either part of the same class or classless.
Maybe they could have some kind of system in China where everyone belonged to the working class. People communing with their neighbors as a community. They could call it electricblunism
 

DiscoJer

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Well duh, the Chinese haven't reached the state of self-loathing that the West has, that everything has to be "green" aka, wearing hair shirts.

Give them time, though.
 
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Timbuktu

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Another problem with the Prius is that it is Japanese. I don't think the Mercedes or BMW would suddenky do worst if they have hybrid cars; people might not buy cars to show that they're being green, but fuel economy surely matter.
 
Suzaku said:
Really the headline should read "Chinese shuns Japanese vehicles".

This isn't true. Nissan, Honda, and Toyota all perform fairly well in China, just not as superbly as they do elsewhere in the world. BYD, the company discussed in the article, has Warren Buffet's backing, and made most of its early fortune building replicas of Toyotas. I'm sure the article only has the Prius in the title because it's, by far, the most recognizable green vehicle.
 

numble

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They either buy cheap cars, or luxury status symbols. The Prius has the cost of a status symbol but the look of a cheap car.
 
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