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Chip Yields are the problem with 360 supply shortage
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Chiggs
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sp0rsk said:
There was comment earlier from someone stating he was on his second defective Xbox, and that he's "not the only one." This, of course, was taken by certain members of the forum as further evidence that the Xbox 360 is highly defective. I don't believe that for a second, but whatever...
As far as Gamestop managers go, what they say can easily be anecdotal evidence, considering that a lot of them don't see the bigger picture. Now, if they're involved in sales trending or defective units trending reports, then I'll shut my mouth.
teiresias said:
yeah, that rumor has got to be bullshit for a number of reasons. One, there's more HDD drives out there than there are consoles (you can finally find a seperate HDD relatively easily, whereas consoles are extremely scarce). Two, they're using a standard laptop HDD with a special connector (modified USB or SATA connector IIRC), so it's not like the actual parts themselves are scarce either.
Goreomedy said:
Why don't you call up Best Buy and ask them why the hell they're holding their shipments in the back of the store for Dec. 18th.
Ask Gamestop why they're selling expensive online bundles, yet they've got customers who pre-ordered and still haven't gotten theirs yet.
Ask the other retailers who we've been hearing about that are selling their shipments on ebay for double the price instead of putting them out for customers.
After all the shitty games retail is playing, I think people need to get off Microsoft's nutsack a little bit. Obviously Microsoft isnt' sending enough out to fill demand, but I don't have any doubt that they're sending them out to stores, but they seem to be getting lost somewhere in the abyss of greed once they hit retail and they don't seem to be finding their way onto shelves.
Apharmd Battler
Member
bill0527 said:
This is one thing I've been curious about as well to. I'm quite sure that the guys that work the shipping and warehouse at a lot of these major retailers are far beyond skimming a few units off the top and selling them at hack pirces for profit. [/sarcasm]. I have no evidence that is happening, but if I were warehouse staff, making a little more than minimum wage, I'd be tempted to skim a couple for for especially with all the news surrounding the console shortage.
And there have got to be a cache of consoles somewhere? I know of a few people who are getting faulty consoles replaced in a hurry. So M$ customer support is doing a great job, but somebodys got a stash somewhere.
Warm Machine
Member
EA supposedly has loads of 360 machines at their company stores in Vancouver. Thing is only EA employees can buy them.
Brushing aside your renewed attempts to play the victim card here, there's certainly some meat that should be run with here given the fact that had MS not been so intent to launch early AND to launch in all three major regions within weeks of each other, they very likely would have been able to reduce some of these issues.PhatSaqs said:
Chiggs said:
Sounds like your company made an excuse to screw their employees! :lol
On July 30, 2002, the Sarbanes-Oxley Act (Public Law 104-204) went into effect, and changed the corporate landscape in the United States in regard to financial reporting and auditing for publicly traded companies. Written The law establishes stringent financial reporting requirements for companies doing business in the United States.
SOX doesn't seem to have stopped MS from giving special X360s to the X360 team itself though...Chiggs said:
Oh gosh, you mean we're having a discussion that doesn't necessarily create action items? How silly of us!PhatSaqs said:And had you not posted this MS would still be in the predicament they are. Not saying I dont agree, just that it doesnt mean much right now. And it also doesnt change the fact that GAF loves MS meat, despite your attempts to brush the issue aside.
And GAF likes all kind of meat - whenever it's offered, GAF sinks its teeth in.
I doubt it. This sounds like your company used it as an excuse. SOX does not take away the rights to employee gifts, etc., it just makes the reporting and auditing of these transactions stricter. MS can give whatever it wants to its employees, it just must be reported in a timely fashion and be taxed appropriately. After SOX, corporations are significantly reducing the number of expense-side employee gifts and shifting them to HR where they can be tracked and audited easier for income tax purposes.Chiggs said:
Eel O'Brian
Member
Mine's worked perfectly so far, but a few days after launch I purchased the $50 Best Buy 2-year replacement plan as an insurance measure. With the amount of heat this thing puts out and the constant (loud) spinning of the DVD drive, I can almost foresee it wearing out from the stress before that time period ends.
reggieandTFE
Member
puck1337 said:
Of course not. if the chip fabrication is having poor yields Nintendo can just grab a bunch of chips out of some old TI-83 calculators.
ImNotLikeThem
Member
For what its worth, our store 360 just died today after working perfectly fine yesterday. We've also had 3 out of launch 34 that are dead, that I know of.