Gamepass is bad for us, it doesn't matter if they have 10 9/10 games in their catalog, that's irrelevant…Who cares about numbers when you got dat value?
Also why they didn't go all-in with PS Now. Barely even promoted it.Explains a lot of Sony's actions regarding ps plus in the recent years
Which 10 9/10 games do they have at this moment? Be sure not to include anything older than 3 years, since I'm sure you don't consider the PS4 catalog on PS Plus Extra to be a good valueGamepass is bad for us, it doesn't matter if they have 10 9/10 games in their catalog, that's irrelevant…
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Not when you are a company like Microsoft, who is now the biggest publisher in the world, putting all their games on gamepassAlso, it is actually pretty good that Gamepass and PS Plus / subscriptions in general haven't lost ground since the covid boom. That is at least one way you can spin it
They are costing themselves billions by putting everything on Gamepass over the next few years, in the hopes there will be major growth from the service.
I still play OG FF7 and Super Metroid, good games are good games period and add value to games subscription services… Lol, i loved the arbitrary 3 years mark you put there to fit your narrative, mental gymnastics in action.Which 10 9/10 games do they have at this moment? Be sure not to include anything older than 3 years, since I'm sure you don't consider the PS4 catalog on PS Plus Extra to be a good value
Not when you are a company like Microsoft, who is now the biggest publisher in the world, putting all their games on gamepass
Microsoft has estimates of reaching 100mil subscribers by 2029. They are costing themselves billions by putting everything on Gamepass over the next few years, in the hopes there will be major growth from the service. Minor or even moderate subscription growth will not be enough to sustain it
Gamepass made it easy for frustrated Xbox owners to buy a ps5 because you leave nothing behind if you switch.
I'm not saying Microsoft isn't making profits, but they are still losing out on a shit ton of money by making everything available on Gamepass. Putting COD on gamepass probably cost them at least 500mil alone last yearThat isn't true, they are selling them on PS5 while praying there will be major growth from the service
I was helping your argument with the 3 year cutoff, dummy. Okay, since you think my 3 year mark is arbitrary, would you consider PS Plus Extra a good value because of TLOU1, TLOU2, GoW, GoW:R, Hogwarts Legacy, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Forbidden West, Uncharted 1-4, Lost Legacy, Jedi: Survivor, and Marvel's Spider-Man, and Days Gone being on it? Or would you consider it a ripoff? Even the most ardent Sony stans would consider that list stale because we already played most of those on the PS4.I still play OG FF7 and Super Metroid, good games are good games period and add value to games subscription services… Lol, i loved the arbitrary 3 years mark you put there to fit your narrative, mental gymnastics in action.
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Gamepass didn't completely remain flat. IIRC around a year ago with the multiplat pivot we learnt they had 34 million gamepass subs including 11 million or so Xbox live users who were merged into the gamepass core.Oh no, I completely agree. This is terrible news for MS but most tech saw a decline vs 2020/21 so to remain flat is not too bad.
I was helping your argument with the 3 year cutoff, dummy. Okay, since you think my 3 year mark is arbitrary, would you consider PS Plus Extra a good value because of TLOU1, TLOU2, GoW, GoW:R, Hogwarts Legacy, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Forbidden West, Uncharted 1-4, Lost Legacy, Jedi: Survivor, and Marvel's Spider-Man, and Days Gone being on it? Or would you consider it a ripoff? Even the most ardent Sony stans would consider that list stale because we already played most of those on the PS4.
I feel it is wrong to compare horizon or tlou 1 remake to oblivion. Oblivion is a far older game that isn't available on modern consoles, so it's remaster atleast makes sense. Unlike the recent Sony remasters. If Sony has instead remastered games like kill zone, resistance or infamous, I doubt most would complain. Heck a lot of people were excited for the rumoured god of war greek trilogy remasters.Also, all the Xbox fans in here seem to be creaming themselves over the Oblivion remaster, but took great outrage with TLOU1 Remake and Horizon Zero Dawn, which were both far superior in quality. Which is it? Are remakes good only when Xbox does it and cashgrabs when Sony does it?
Gamepass didn't completely remain flat. IIRC around a year ago with the multiplat pivot we learnt they had 34 million gamepass subs including 11 million or so Xbox live users who were merged into the gamepass core.
Last reported numbers before the 34 million number was 25 million gamepass subs excluding those live users. So you'd expect the 25 million combined with the 11 million live users to put them over 36 million....but it didn't it put them at 34 million so a decline of 2 million minimum.
I find subscriptions remove value from games TBH. Like a Michelin star restaurant to pick and choose the best to a Las Vegas 1$ buffet.Obligatory "whoever thought these sub services are the future is a moron" and "who didn't see this coming?".
Inconceivable! I thought subscriptions and $400 million GaaS games were the future!?
Oblivion OG is available as BC game on Xbox Series and PC. That said, I agree that situation is quite different from Sony's remaster spree.Agreed, also, along with the price increase, the reason why I stopped my subscription to ps plus extra. Doesn't make sense, especially when I can buy even 1 new game for its price.
I feel it is wrong to compare horizon or tlou 1 remake to oblivion. Oblivion is a far older game that isn't available on modern consoles, so it's remaster atleast makes sense. Unlike the recent Sony remasters. If Sony has instead remastered games like kill zone, resistance or infamous, I doubt most would complain. Heck a lot of people were excited for the rumoured god of war greek trilogy remasters.
Also for gamepass 9/10 or 10/10 games, blue prince and clair obscur would be good examples. Although personally I am still not keen on gamepass( like ps plus extra) and as such am not subscribed nor will subscribe to it.
Inshallah, COD 2024 marks the turning point when gamers realize what a dogshit and exploitative series this has become.CoD 2025's gonna add another double digit growth to it.
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Yeah, I can see why, PhillipXbox Game Pass Is "Not For Everybody," Phil Spencer Says