Man, Siphon Funds is a real dick move.
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Man, Siphon Funds is a real dick move.
Eh, not sure I like that... I found it pretty messy in Civ4 to deal with both espionage units and missionaries.
CrocMother
Banned
All the religion stuff is still under NDA, I'm assuming because it hasn't been worked out yet.
I played with espionage off in civ 4 for that same reason.
dapperbandit
Banned
Don't remember having that particular issue but I remember the Espionage system in Civ IV was stupidly over complicated.
For me my interest in espionage really depends on being able to do interesting things with it, being able to steal great art sounds awesome to me. Having a spy as a unit on the map makes it feel less like just a menu you go into as well
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That screen shot does not show that spies are map units.
Look at the unit preview in the lower-right corner and the unit standing in the city. They look pretty similar to me.
ErasureAcer
Banned
Back from my 6-month ban. Excited for this game. Yay for ASTROLOGY being in the game. ASTROLOGY. WOOOOOO!
Yeah, and trading units are units as well, but you never control them except when they are in cities.
I want more information than one screenshot before I conclude that they are back to being map units.
Edit: For example, I believe his banner does not have movement points.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Yep. I'm not sure how useful it would be to have spies as actual units, from a gameplay perspective.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
At least this means those anti-spy buildings are worth more now. In BNW they were kinda pointless since most of the time it's your capital they always plop on and you simply just have to put a counter spy + an anti-spy building
Pagusas
Elden Member
Get the hell out of the thread then.
Leave the thread then if you don't want to see any screenshots.
Regarding the spies, i enjoyed the range of actions i could perform in 4 but probably enjoyed how you 'move' them in 5, so if 6 has a combination of the two , then great!
Man that civ looks fun.
Hmm, excuse me guys, but I've never heard of Scythia before, so I'm going to read up on them now.
Anyway, I'm quite underwhelmed about their UA, but I can imagine her being pretty strong right out of the gate. Not sure how late-game will fare for her.
CoconutTank
Member
I'm curious if the wounded unit bonus and heal bonus are melee only. I hope it applies to the horse archers as well, because mass horse archers that can trivially get relevant attack bonuses and heal on kill sounds so good 
like if you guys thought Attila's horse archers were annoying...
like if you guys thought Attila's horse archers were annoying...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Finally a new civ
They're a very interesting people. I had to write a little paper about them for a course a year or so back, they're no joke. They don't get talked about much since they didn't leave much behind archaeologically, but they're proud nomads who ran very far and wide over the ancient world.
If you want some comically inaccurate but entertaining accounts of them, read the passages that Herodotus wrote in The Histories. It reads like something out of Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
So according to wiki they're essentially ancient Iranians?
CoconutTank
Member
Oh hmm, looks like Sacae horse archers only have 1 range instead of 2... My enthusiasm is dampened now, but the Scythians still sound like a terror to face in combat on open plains 
i want to love this game for its personality, but its bloated quasimodo visage that not even the finest korean plastic surgeons could hope to fix is making it difficult.
i'm not a shallow man, but even the most loving parent would find it hard to look this child in the eyes and feel anything but regret.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Oh hmm, looks like Sacae horse archers only have 1 range instead of 2... My enthusiasm is dampened now, but the Scythians still sound like a terror to face in combat on open plains
mitigated by having any cavalry unit spawned twice than once though
CoconutTank
Member
Oh for sure
Even if they're going to be blocking each other now, having what amounts to a melee attack that doesn't trigger a counter-attack is still pretty awesome. I'm crossing my fingers that they get to move after attacking, as most cavalry units can.Now that I think about it, I don't think I've seen cities use their attacks, or at least I don't recall that happening in all the previews and the one Aztec playthrough I've watched thus far. So maybe Scythians can rock it at liberating cities ;P
Didn't know about that, thanks for the info
civ is all about engrossing yourself in the tapestry that unfolds on your screen, becoming the king of all that you survey.
i'd rather survey the gents toilets on camden road than this hideousness.
Oh god they made a better version of the Huns what were they thinking?
EDIT - quoted wrong person
Lister
Banned
Common now, you're not exaggerating just a little bit?
Kinda. They're an early steppe people - cultural predecessors to the Huns, the Mongols, the Goths, and so forth. One of the first horse cultures and, from what I recall, the first known to have combined horseback warfare with archery, which is pretty revolutionary.
They're geographically from the area now known as Iran, but don't have much in common culturally with the Persians or their successor states.
CrocMother
Banned
I was under the impression that the exact details of Cyrus' death are unconfirmed. Whatever.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Interesting, are they nomadic but mostly kept within the Iranian lands?
Glad they took a new civ for this game which is relatively uncommon. Hope they add more new Civs in vanilla, was disappointed in vanilla V to only have Songhai as a new Civ. They did make it up on the expacs having new civs but still...
Clark W Grizwald
Banned
I just started playing Civ 5 a few weeks ago due to that GAF thread (bought it a few years back during a Steam sale and never touched it) and can't WAIT for this game! I'm still a total Civ noob but all the changes look fantastic.
Wonder if there'll be any classic civs that don't make the cut.
Subjectivity, how the fuck does it work.
Subjectivity, how the fuck does it work.
Strife In a Teacup
Member
Sweet! Sean Bean narrates the tech trees? Awesome!
Disagree, unless everything looking less bumpy/grainy is what you mean by detail. And that comes down to an art direction choice, not a technical one.
Terrible example screens. There's fewer "off" colors compared to the terrain palette base (more unified color palette), and gentler on the harsh details. The texture is just high res as it was, if not more.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I think all of the civ 1 civs are guaranteed. It's the civ 2 ones that can come and go, like Spain and the oher two Meso-American civs tend to end up as expac/dlc.
They are, but the story that Tomyris and the Massagetean killed him in battle is the most well known of them all. So it's as good as any to go with. Most accounts have him dying in battle so that's probably the most likely cause, but against who is the big question. Odds are it was some kind of Scythian group or related tribe given the region most report him dying in.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
Even if that were lower texture I'm uncertain why it should matter to me for a civ game.
Well, I mean you can say you personally like the artstyle more, but stuff like detail on textures is lower for sure.
Ah, thanks for that image. That's exactly what i meant a while ago. Civ 5 looks much more detailed. I wouldn't be shocked if mobile versions are the reason for that.
Thug Waffle
Member
Well, I mean you can say you personally like the artstyle more, but stuff like detail on textures is lower for sure.
Holy shit... that's kinda sad.