I don't think anything about it looks cheap...?
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Civilization 6 announced, out October 21st
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I don't think anything about it looks cheap...?
sankt-Antonio
Banned
At least theres some giant enemy crabs in the game.
Green Man Gaming are offering a 'massive' 10% off.
It's a pity I won't have time to play this at release
Simple meshes and low-res textures lacking detail, how is that not cheap? It looks like a mobile game, not a PC game.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Hmm after looking at GMG I guess I'd rather stick to the local south east asian Steam price instead
What does this even mean? That it didn't require any effort to create?
The Meshs are basically identical. The texutres are actually more painterly than Civ Vs, which is more work for the artists to make it look right, than slapping photo textures from the library onto them. (Which also wasn't done for Civ V, as it doesn't yield good resulst for objects that small, but you get my point)
And here I was thinking this "muh realism" nonsense had finally stopped after Wind Waker.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I really like the look of it not just because I can play it on the go if it's not too demanding.
I just don't see the point of the continued discussion around it, they won't change it now. Complain about it when the game is out and maybe they'll ramp it up for one of the addons.
I just don't see the point of the continued discussion around it, they won't change it now. Complain about it when the game is out and maybe they'll ramp it up for one of the addons.
marvelharvey
Member
I just pre-ordered from Kinguin for around $45.
20% off on Gamesplanet, plus 5% I believe if you link your Steam account. Legit site, keys from publisher.
Only some ranged units are 1 ranged, like Slingers and Horse Archers. There will be normal ranged units too.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
Member
Same here. Old style was a mess sometimes.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Thanks, but it seems local price still ends up cheaper on my side. Looks like I have no choice but to go for DD.
Same as Civ V, some ranged units have 1 range.
kinguin is a key reseller if you want to support DEVs don't buy games from there
martino
Member
Adagio In D Minor is a great choice for trailer.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Uh base Civ 4 definitely does not look like that. Pretty sure that's using Blue Marble or some other similar graphics mod.
This is what Civ 4 actually looks like in normal play.
Actually comparing the two CIv 6 modelling looks to be deliberately a lot less "rustic" and cleaner, more like a painting than something trying to model the real world. Nevertheless, the landscaping and most importantly the color design are very similar in both.
Both are significantly more suited to this type of game than Civ 5's art style, that's for sure.
this is what it looks like in BTS unmodded in my game
closer to Civ V than VI, complete with grainy textures that made trees more detailed as well as hills and mountains, which was my original point, so not sure how you are able to compare it to VI
again, CivRev looks closer to it
Huge Succeeded
Banned
this is what it looks like in BTS unmodded in my game
closer to Civ V than VI, complete with grainy textures that made trees more detailed as well as hills and mountains, which was my original point, so not sure how you are able to compare it to VI
again, CivRev looks closer to it
you're kidding right
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
no, the trees, ground and mountains have a more "realistic" texture on them like V's, unlike VI's gradient look
I'm not seeing what's wholly simple about the meshes? The trees, maybe, but cities etc. still look fairly detailed?
The animation is hugely better, and so are the leader portraits.
Stylised does not mean cheap.
[edit] And as you can see from e.g. the coast on this screen, there's an equivalent amount of detail in the ground textures, they're just less noisy.
[edit 2] I mean look at the amphitheatre in this Civ 6 screenshot compared with the Colosseum in this Civ V shot, I don't see how anyone can say the mesh is lower quality or less detailed.
Bolivar687
Banned
Seems like you guys want grainy and muddy textures, I'm sure some postprocessing injection will have you covered 
It's been 20% a number of times plus they email you 20% off codes you can use on it. I'm sure a 25% promo will come before release. You can also grab a physical copy off Amazon for -20%.
It's been 20% a number of times plus they email you 20% off codes you can use on it. I'm sure a 25% promo will come before release. You can also grab a physical copy off Amazon for -20%.
Not sure if anyone has seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_8LoR4zLVE
Short-ish playthrough with IGN. It shows some gameplay which I didn't know about, or maybe I just forgot.
Open Borders - Until a specific civic tech, anyone can pass through anyone's borders freely, though if you attempt to pass through into another Civ's territory, you won't declare war, but they may not like it.
To the poster above about the ranged attack, they show an archer unit with 2 range.
Cities can defend themselves from attack but cannot ranged attack until they build fortifications like walls.
Short-ish playthrough with IGN. It shows some gameplay which I didn't know about, or maybe I just forgot.
Open Borders - Until a specific civic tech, anyone can pass through anyone's borders freely, though if you attempt to pass through into another Civ's territory, you won't declare war, but they may not like it.
To the poster above about the ranged attack, they show an archer unit with 2 range.
Cities can defend themselves from attack but cannot ranged attack until they build fortifications like walls.
They look stylised to me, "cheap" would indicate a lack of quality to me, not a deliberate aesthetic
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Isn't it because of the civ's initial meeting and you get an option to "visit" that other civ's city?
I think you're right.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
The trees look incredibly cheap. The mountains look cheap too actually.
Compare that to this.
You say it looks cheap, I say it looks more vibrant. Different strokes.
Lister
Banned
The meshes in Civ VI are more complex than in Civ V though. Civ V features a single plane with geometric detail, and textures drawn on top. In Civ VI everything is a 3d mesh.
Is there any word on world creation? From what I understand they are still going with the old continents, pangea, etc.. I wish they had a more realistic option, with continents and islands combined.
On a not entirely unrelated note, I'm thinking travelling will be far more realistic this time around, with how roads are built in the game. I hope that will help in moving your religious people around faster.
On a not entirely unrelated note, I'm thinking travelling will be far more realistic this time around, with how roads are built in the game. I hope that will help in moving your religious people around faster.
They mention it in the video. When you "visit" you just get sight of it, something different to the open borders
If you find their borders, you'll get to see their capital city,
if they find your borders, you can show them your capital city,
if you both meet each other, both of you can see each other's capital city
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
It looks like how Id imagine a Blizzard developed version of Civilization would look, lol. Im okay with the new look, but Id be lying if I said I thought it looked impressive.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ah cool, so it's sorta like the Embassy in V.
I wonder how Open Borders work then, if it's in the Civics or Tech.
My biggest complaint still is how hard it is to tell where borders end and begin, but I also have this problem with Civ V. In Civ IV it's very clear who owns what territory (to me at least). I also don't like how your empire looks like a bunch of sporadically placed cities rather than one big cohesive unit.
I really like the style of the graphics from what I've seen so far, here's hoping the diplomacy options are great too. The politics are one of my favorite aspects of Civ.
I really like the style of the graphics from what I've seen so far, here's hoping the diplomacy options are great too. The politics are one of my favorite aspects of Civ.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
The trees look incredibly cheap. The mountains look cheap too actually.
Compare that to this.
I know this is neogaf but good lord this is the dorkiest shit.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Welp, bought the Digital Deluxe edition through local price.
it's apparently 60 USD when converted, give or take. How is the American price in comparison?
it's apparently 60 USD when converted, give or take. How is the American price in comparison?
$60 for base game, $80 for digital deluxe
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I guess that's a bargain then, woohoo!
Gozer the Gozerian
Member
For what it's worth I decided to jump in with V a couple weeks ago, with the thought that VI like V will likely take an expansion or two to really come into its own so I'm ok with waiting awhile to pick it up. That being said I have no interest in the multiplayer which could certainly affect your choice.
I don't think I'm interested in multiplayer either, and I hadn't thought about the expansions. Thanks!
I think I'll wait to see if it gets a little cheaper than $30 first. Should have gotten it last time it was on sale.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
how frequent do they add new civs for videos
Civ V is an awesome game and Civ VI will not change that. What you probably will be missing is on the social aspect. Once Civ VI is released, everybody will be talkng about the game, so you will be left out of it. Besides, many people will be joining the fry for the first time with VI and they will be asking questions too, so maybe that's a better place to start. On the other hand, people know Civ V in and out and can help. There're tons of videos with extensive Civ V info as well as play throughs.
The good thing is I don't think you can't go wrong here.
Amazon have it for £40 , though still quite high
dapperbandit
Banned
Should get a new one this week, and I think they have a bit at Gamescom too
Giant Panda
Member
The good news is that Civ 6 should be less of a drop from Civ 5 + expansions than Civ 5 was from Civ 4 + expansions. I tried playing base Civ 5 when it came out and I only got a few games in before I got bored and went back to Civ 4 Complete. Civ 6 seems much more fully featured in comparison.
decoyplatypus
Member
I continue to be skeptical about Civ 6's barbarians. Clearing barb camps was already tedious in Civ 5 (and I seriously doubt that barb maintenance was ever anyone's favorite part of the early-game). I can see Beach et al. hoped to make the barbarian problem more interesting by adding scout behavior and increasing the threat level. But so far it just looks like a more-intense variant of the same tedious gameplay.
Another thing that continues to nag at me as I watch some of last week's videos: the color tone of scouted-but-out-of-sight territory is too close to the tan of unexplored parchment. The visual details are distinctive enough to prevent confusion (which was an earlier concern of mine), but the color combination is still unattractive to me.
Another thing that continues to nag at me as I watch some of last week's videos: the color tone of scouted-but-out-of-sight territory is too close to the tan of unexplored parchment. The visual details are distinctive enough to prevent confusion (which was an earlier concern of mine), but the color combination is still unattractive to me.