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Clash Royale |OT| Should I keep playing when Im full on chests?
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That doesn't sound like it will make things worse for somebody forging their way up the ladder in a genuine way. The biggest impact that would have I think, running the mental math, seems to be pairing off people who purposely drop down the ladder to farm crowns, arguably making it easier for everyone else?
You're definitely looking at it a bit incorrectly. If you're being matched with people that are higher level than you often that means that your skill has you at a trophy count (and arena) that is higher than is typical for your crown tower level and card levels. This isn't a bad thing. It means that on average you're more skilled than the people at the average trophy level for whatever your card levels are (probably 1-2 arenas lower than where you currently are).
Because of these factors, you have to recognize that it's going to be really difficult for you to stay at those higher trophy/arena levels because you're eventually going to get beat down by people with higher level cards than you. This made me really upset with the matchmaking too, back when I played this game more regularly. Instead you should just be pleased with yourself that you're higher in the ladder than someone with the same level cards as you typically would be and don't get mad when eventually the higher level guys beat you down an arena level or two, because it's unavoidable.
This also means, what is essentially one of the bigger problems with this game, that you can literally pay your way to a higher arenas if you gem to open chests and level your cards up more than someone who stays f2p. This is how they get you. You need to either find a level of contentment with bouncing around a few arenas as your skill eventually butts up with higher level players, or whip out your credit card and let Supercell know you're a high tier player.
Maybe. Without seeing the actual numbers and weights it's hard to say anything for sure on how this works, but we can imagine a couple shitty angles on it.
Is your trophy high even an accurate reflection of your proper skill? If you happen to go on a good run and set that watermark 200 trophies higher than you "belong", then regress back to your month average, well now you're always going to be fighting uphill.
Also, you're pretty much committing to your high watermark deck. Used to be, if I went on a slide, I'd goof around with a new deck for a bit while tryna climb back up. But that new deck has to have card levels commensurate with my highest-achieving deck or I'm boned. Even if the cards are at a proper level, it takes me a while to properly learn a new deck -- how am I going to learn my new deck while playing against sharks playing their most comfortable deck?
Those do seem problematic. And I'd argue that's an argument why a straight trophy count system would be superior.
Of course, even straight trophy count matchmaking incentivizes you not to change your deck to underpowered cards.
ericksakti
Member
as a F2P player I find this game not too hard to climb trophies,
granted that I have been playing for one year,
I have managed to reach 5300+ trophies,
This is without spending a single cent on the game, not even the arena pack.
So if you don't spend money on this game, its not impossible to climb up.
Highest rank that I have gotten to is around rank 1000 worldwide,
Key is you need to stay consistent with your deck and stop upgrading every card,
Just make sure to level up only the card that you use so you can have high level deck.
granted that I have been playing for one year,
I have managed to reach 5300+ trophies,
This is without spending a single cent on the game, not even the arena pack.
So if you don't spend money on this game, its not impossible to climb up.
Highest rank that I have gotten to is around rank 1000 worldwide,
Key is you need to stay consistent with your deck and stop upgrading every card,
Just make sure to level up only the card that you use so you can have high level deck.
That's pretty impressive. What deck are you using?
ericksakti
Member
very barebone deck,
miner,princess,ice wiz, barb,e collector, arrow, minion horde, and hog rider.
some weakness in this deck, but once you got used to it its quite effective, only weak to several decks like sparky deck and furnace deck.
Serpens007
Member
Yeah, matchmaking is sometimes frustrating, but I don't know how it could be any different.
I'm level 9, at arena 9, 2800 trophies, with no normal card above 9 (I can lvl up archers, but I'm saving gold for mini Pekka), and only Golem at lvl 4. I am constantly paired against lvl 10 players, with normal cards at 11 and high cards. I can still beat them, but god damn it is getting hard. Specially against Royal Giant or E-Barbs with so much HP at a high level
My go-to deck is:
Golem lvl 4
Mini Pekka lvl 6
Mega MInion lvl 7
Minions lvl 9
Archers lvl 9
Collector lvl 6
Zap lvl 9
Tornadus lvl 3
I love this deck, was stuck at Arena 7 until I started using it, but I really need to upgrade cards, specially Mini Pekka and MM.
So I have to grind a lot or... fall into the business model and use my CC
I'm level 9, at arena 9, 2800 trophies, with no normal card above 9 (I can lvl up archers, but I'm saving gold for mini Pekka), and only Golem at lvl 4. I am constantly paired against lvl 10 players, with normal cards at 11 and high cards. I can still beat them, but god damn it is getting hard. Specially against Royal Giant or E-Barbs with so much HP at a high level
My go-to deck is:
Golem lvl 4
Mini Pekka lvl 6
Mega MInion lvl 7
Minions lvl 9
Archers lvl 9
Collector lvl 6
Zap lvl 9
Tornadus lvl 3
I love this deck, was stuck at Arena 7 until I started using it, but I really need to upgrade cards, specially Mini Pekka and MM.
So I have to grind a lot or... fall into the business model and use my CC
Serpens007
Member
Yeah, I would love to have a ladder for clan battles. I really love playing clan battles with my GF, we sync really fast and demolish 8/10 battles
I downloaded the Pacific Rim soundtrack so I can get in the maximum drift-compatible headspace during clan battles. 😉
I have a deck I only play for Clan Battles that doesn't make any sense in single play but works really well with a teammate.
I even love when the other team is ultra-coordinated and rolls us. Had one where they waited for us to commit some cards in lane, then both did Gob Barrel and Mirror straight at our throne, then one did Clone and the other put out a Poison. Then they just chipped it down with fireballs and poisons.
I have a deck I only play for Clan Battles that doesn't make any sense in single play but works really well with a teammate.
I even love when the other team is ultra-coordinated and rolls us. Had one where they waited for us to commit some cards in lane, then both did Gob Barrel and Mirror straight at our throne, then one did Clone and the other put out a Poison. Then they just chipped it down with fireballs and poisons.
Are there any GAF clans open?
I've been drifting around from Clan to Clan but so far they have not been great.
The Clan I just left didn't even get to first level Clan Battle chest.
Oh hey! What time would be best?
I've been drifting around from Clan to Clan but so far they have not been great.
The Clan I just left didn't even get to first level Clan Battle chest.
Oh hey! What time would be best?
Man guys, I just want to get to 3800 so I can get that offer!
Sitting at 3700 but those 3 or 4 wins I need are so tough. I'm a lvl 10 so I have an uphill battle facing mostly 11s plus my commons are under leveled.
Musk 9
E whiz 2
GG 10
minions 10
Log 2
Miner 2
Fireball 8
Tombstone 8
Hogs and elites I run over but golems and lavaloons are still about a 25-30% win rate.
Sitting at 3700 but those 3 or 4 wins I need are so tough. I'm a lvl 10 so I have an uphill battle facing mostly 11s plus my commons are under leveled.
Musk 9
E whiz 2
GG 10
minions 10
Log 2
Miner 2
Fireball 8
Tombstone 8
Hogs and elites I run over but golems and lavaloons are still about a 25-30% win rate.
I have time for the next 2 hours or so. Post if you are reading. Elsewise, starting from 20:00 CET.
The high end of the ladder doesn't seem to have stretched out too much yet. I just poked my head above 4600 last night and it's full of level 11 rares, 7 epics and I even ran into a level 5 princess
Last season I was running into mostly level 11 players with reasonable card levels at this point
Last season I was running into mostly level 11 players with reasonable card levels at this point
Damn it. I forgot to check yesterday. I'm available whenever today, just post here. Hopefully I'll remember to check back.
So awhile ago I passed on an offer to drop $5 on a Legendary chest thay would have gotten me my first Legendary.
How often do those offers come around? I really regret it.
Maybe once a month.
Epic chest offers come around every 7 days and legendary chest offers come around every 21 days last time I checked.
Good week of opening free chests:
That's fucking ridiculous.
(Still don't have a legendary)
So I woke up today and realized I had 2264 trophies and the Clan Chest was almost maxed. "Damn!" I thought, "I should probably get to Arena 8 before midnight!"
Lol. Many, many games later I currently stand 2202.
I'm really frustrated. The decks that I seem to struggle with the most involve Clone. At this point I'm seeing many more opponents with cards from Arena 8 and I've not got them myself.
Sometimes I can be ready for it with Arrows but ultimately Clone ends up putting me on the backfoot for the rest of the match.
Usually it's Clone + Lavahound or Golem that does it. Throw a Witch in there and shit gets out of hand really fast. But really, Clone in general is the problem. Had a guy Clone a Giant Skeleton, which in itself was not a problem because the clone is soft, but the two bombs they left behind murdered my tower.
Current deck:
Arrows
Archers
Gobby Spears
Valk
Giant
Baby D
Balloon
Muskateer
Another dude that's fuckin up my strategy is Ice Wizard. He puts my matchups behind so that I have a hard time gaining momentum. Tornado is also really good at stalling me out.
Good week of opening free chests:
Yeah I got two legendaries in two consecutive free chests when I woke up Saturday. It was insane.
A lumberjack and an e.wiz.
I got a e.wiz that friday from a free chest as well.
This is the luck I have. Can't win at the lottery noooooo. Just this happens
I had no legendaries for months and months after most other had several now I get all this and never use them :/
Clone is a card that barely gets used at the top end. But where you are at makes it a little trickier to deal with. I don't have any specific advice other than them using clone means they have one less troop card type to use so are less versatile.
On your deck, between arrows, archers, goblin spears, and musketeer you have a lot of cards that do "the same thing". I'd suggest dropping the archers. You'd still have the musketeer for punchy ranged and air attack, and the goblin spears for cheap ranged and air attack and fodder.
In it's place seeing as you are having problems with lavahound, golem, and giant skeleton, I'd suggest inferno tower to draw the attack and deal some serious damage. If you struggle with the elixir cost of inferno tower, tombstone and cannon could be alternatives. These will all help with hog decks too.
Hmm, okay! I'll try that out. I would really like to keep elixer cost down.
Something else that works well on Giant Skeleton is kiting it with your Giant. If you wait until the Giant Skeleton is close to the tower then drop a Giant behind it, it will be pulled back up and away, allowing your tower and Baby Dragon to kill it easy. Best part is it can't easily catch up to the Giant, so it will struggle to do damage to it and your opponent will be forced to defend.
Alternatively, drop a giant just over halfway by the river on the other side just as a Giant Skeleton (or Pekka) is crossing the river. It will pull the enemy right across the map, having bother towers shoot at it, and it won't be able to catch up to your giant and deal damage to it. Just be careful not to place ground troops in such a way that it stops that.
Finally managed to get to player level 8 and at last cracked 2600 trophies and got to Arena 9. I feel like I have the least interesting deck out there (pretty much all my cards save one can be obtained in the first couple arenas), but it works pretty well most of the time...
Current deck:
Knight
Minion Horde
Inferno Dragon
Balloon
Valkyrie
Arrows
Baby Dragon
Skeleton Army
As far as legendaries for the person above - I have a few of them, and I never spent a dollar on this game. Play enough and it'll drop. I've gotten a couple from the free chests for example.
Current deck:
Knight
Minion Horde
Inferno Dragon
Balloon
Valkyrie
Arrows
Baby Dragon
Skeleton Army
As far as legendaries for the person above - I have a few of them, and I never spent a dollar on this game. Play enough and it'll drop. I've gotten a couple from the free chests for example.
Frostt
Member
The clan im in has a spot left if you want. Very active as well
Sure, what's the clan's name?
Frostt
Member
#Y8CGRR. Neogaf is the name. Say your from neogaf on the request. I will tell you when its opened so we dont get flooded with requests
Edit: How many trophies do you have?
Around 2.2k. I go back and forth between arena 7 and 8.
I put the trophy limit to 2200
Frostt
Member
Ok we will open it now, apply as soon as you can please
Edit: I see Thyy is taking care of it
We are filled up right now.
But GAF (#QYYQCQ) and NeoGAF (#20Y9PQ) seem to both have one spot free.
Why not just buy it? You'll still have enough cash for your log when it shows up and hound unlocks some pretty fun decks. LJ and Inferno dragon (even tho ID is my favorite card) are situational support cards but you can craft entire decks around having a hound available.
3200 Trophies
Tower Level 9
Pekka (Lvl 4)
Wiz (Lvl 6)
Minion Horde (Lvl 9)
Minions (Lvl 9)
Tornado (Lvl 2)
Cannon (Lvl 9)
Princess (Lvl 1)
Zap (Lvl 9)
Playing non-stop Tower 10's and 11's - starting to get frustrating because i cant make a dent in some of these higher level decks
Really cant imagine how some people get Epics to level 7 and Rares to Lvl 11
I mean, i guess just spending mad cash on the game, but woof - nuts
Edit: My strategy with this deck involves using the tornado to gather mobs to my pekka, with my wizard in tow to cleave - not sure if its a decent deck or not but it seems to be alright, i've done no deck theorycrafting at all
Tower Level 9
Pekka (Lvl 4)
Wiz (Lvl 6)
Minion Horde (Lvl 9)
Minions (Lvl 9)
Tornado (Lvl 2)
Cannon (Lvl 9)
Princess (Lvl 1)
Zap (Lvl 9)
Playing non-stop Tower 10's and 11's - starting to get frustrating because i cant make a dent in some of these higher level decks
Really cant imagine how some people get Epics to level 7 and Rares to Lvl 11
I mean, i guess just spending mad cash on the game, but woof - nuts
Edit: My strategy with this deck involves using the tornado to gather mobs to my pekka, with my wizard in tow to cleave - not sure if its a decent deck or not but it seems to be alright, i've done no deck theorycrafting at all
Are you planning to build a deck around Lava Hound? If not, don't buy it. No point spending a lot of gold on a card you don't need. You'll need that gold later for leveling your cards.
This was holding me back, not sure I want to build a deck around lavahound. I personally hate playing balloons. Still debating but will likely hold off.
Yeah so after messing around with my deck and taking some advice I'm now at 2052. Fell all the way from 2264.
I just don't even know what you are expecting any more. The nature of the game means you will hit a new high trophy wall regularly. You are going to go up and down the ladder by a couple of hundred points without even changing anything regularly. Every time you change your deck you'll likely drop trophies initially because you both won't have the new cards levelled and won't be used to the new play style straight away. There is no deck that isn't weak to some other deck.
The magic bullet where you race to the top of the leaderboard without any friction doesn't exist.
Yeah so after messing around with my deck and taking some advice I'm now at 2052. Fell all the way from 2264.
messing around with your deck means you're inexperienced again. It's like...playing a new formation in football, it might be amazing but if you don't know how to play it correctly it wont work
elrechazado
Banned
We all need therapy after playing this game on any given day
I agree. I was on terrible losing streak over 400 trophies then found a great deck that helped me climb back to a new trophy high. As a result, I'm now constantly hitting opponents with King tower advantage and 2 levels on cards. Going against epics and legendaries 2 levels high is liking playing high school basketball as a 5th grader. Just have keep grinding the cards and enjoying the fair match ups but it is damn frustrating.