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jb1234

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(Side Note: I always found it sort of difficult to get into Opera, but one of Händel's operas really opened my eyes and softened my view and allowed me entry into that world too)

Playing opera arias for singers is one of my main income sources (as a pianist) but interestingly, I've *never* liked Baroque opera. Give me Mozart, Verdi, Puccini, Britten any day.

I don't actually listen to classical music all that much on my own time, though. I love the music very much (and respect the hell out of it) but as I play it hours every day, I just want a break. ;)

(Some of my old professors would have a freak out if they knew I was listening to a piece from Chrono Trigger right now. "VIDEO GAME MUSIC?")
 

ronito

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lol once I played a Dragon Quest game in one of my recitals as an encore. Everyone loved it. The chair of the violin department along with my teacher came up to congratulate me on the concert and the violin chair asked how composed the last piece he loved it but had never heard it when I told him it was an arrangement I made of a piece from a videogame my professor just laughed and laughed the chair just stormed off. He was a thorough traditionalist.
 

Amir0x

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Playing opera arias for singers is one of my main income sources (as a pianist) but interestingly, I've *never* liked Baroque opera. Give me Mozart, Verdi, Puccini, Britten any day.

I don't actually listen to classical music all that much on my own time, though. I love the music very much (and respect the hell out of it) but as I play it hours every day, I just want a break. ;)

(Some of my old professors would have a freak out if they knew I was listening to a piece from Chrono Trigger right now. "VIDEO GAME MUSIC?")

A friend of mine who teaches music classes once told me that every genre of music is unpalatable to some group of snobs, so you might as well just pick what you like and say fuck 'em. That includes videogame music, which is so diverse at this point that it's just being silly to dismiss it as a category :p

I totally understand why you might not want to listen to it for 24 hours if that's your job. I'd probably be all 'enough's enough' myself. Although I have such a habit to falling asleep to classical music at this point that I doubt I could fall asleep without it anymore...

lol once I played a Dragon Quest game in one of my recitals as an encore. Everyone loved it. The chair of the violin department along with my teacher came up to congratulate me on the concert and the violin chair asked how composed the last piece he loved it but had never heard it when I told him it was an arrangement I made of a piece from a videogame my professor just laughed and laughed the chair just stormed off. He was a thorough traditionalist.

Did the professor ever admit that maybe there's more to this videogame music stuff after that? :p
 

Llyranor

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Here's my tip: Best way to appreciate a symphony? Air-conduct! I get so so much more drawn into the music, hehehe. It actually makes me pay attention to the different instruments more.

Although I have such a habit to falling asleep to classical music at this point that I doubt I could fall asleep without it anymore...
Hahahaha, oh man, you would get torn apart in some circles.
 

jb1234

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lol once I played a Dragon Quest game in one of my recitals as an encore. Everyone loved it. The chair of the violin department along with my teacher came up to congratulate me on the concert and the violin chair asked how composed the last piece he loved it but had never heard it when I told him it was an arrangement I made of a piece from a videogame my professor just laughed and laughed the chair just stormed off. He was a thorough traditionalist.

Ha! Yeah, I can see that. I've actually played video game pieces in recitals before (and some film music too) and the reactions can be baffling, especially if it's a more snobbish crowd. Sure, I toss them some Brahms and Chopin but play a little Uematsu and it's like the sky is falling!

I totally understand why you might not want to listen to it for 24 hours if that's your job. I'd probably be all 'enough's enough' myself. Although I have such a habit to falling asleep to classical music at this point that I doubt I could fall asleep without it anymore...

Don't get me wrong, I still listen to it a lot. There's a certain awe and majesty from the best pieces of music that you can't get from any other genre.

One subset of classical music I rarely if ever listen to on its own is opera, simply because I play it so often. There's certain arias that I wish I'd never have to hear again but they're standard rep for sopranos so they pull out the music, I sigh and stretch the fingers. ;)
 

Amir0x

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Here's my tip: Best way to appreciate a symphony? Air-conduct! I get so so much more drawn into the music, hehehe. It actually makes me pay attention to the different instruments more.

Hahahaha, oh man, you would get torn apart in some circles.

It's not like I don't listen to it ALL the time when I'm fully awake... but man, classical music is just so relaxing too. Blame to amazingly graceful and peaceful compositions that exist out there, not me!

I listen to a ton of Classical music though and never heard of a backlash from people listening to it as they go to sleep... what would be the reason for that? I guess the lack of attention someone would be paying as they drifted off?

Don't get me wrong, I still listen to it a lot. There's a certain awe and majesty from the best pieces of music that you can't get from any other genre.

One subset of classical music I rarely if ever listen to on its own is opera, simply because I play it so often. There's certain arias that I wish I'd never have to hear again but they're standard rep for sopranos so they pull out the music, I sigh and stretch the fingers. ;)

Haha, you must totally bite your tongue sometimes. "oh, yeah, of course I'll play this piece.. nobody has ever suggested this before... IN THE LAST GODDAMN HOUR."
 

jb1234

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Haha, you must totally bite your tongue sometimes. "oh, yeah, of course I'll play this piece.. nobody has ever suggested this before... IN THE LAST GODDAMN HOUR."

Auditions in particular can be very repetitive. Singers are stuck in a quandary because they know they have to play standard repertoire that the judges recognize but at the same time, they don't want to sing an aria that the judges might already be utterly sick of hearing that day.

I think there was one evening where I played O mio babbino at least ten times. And then there was the auditions for a production of "Annie" where I heard about thirty children sing "Tomorrow". ;)
 

AWintory

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Well I'd say go ahead and start the thread, and I'll reach out and see if he'd be interested. He's done an AMA before on reddit, so he might be open to it. What would be the most convenient way to structure it? Just a bunch of questions from the thread that I deliver to him and then post his answers?

EDIT: here's his AMA, for those interested: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/s2xaw/im_austin_wintory_the_composer_for_journey_monaco/

Just spotted this! Not sure what you need but if I may be of service, as always I am happy to be :)
 
Just spotted this! Not sure what you need but if I may be of service, as always I am happy to be :)

Whoa. Didn't know you had a gaf account. Welcome, good sir!

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Billen

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A bit of thread archaeology here, but I thought I'd give people a heads up regarding some great stuff on BBC that can only be played for 4 more days.

You find the material at BBC UK. Tracklisting as follows:

BBC Proms 2013 from Cadogan Hall, London.

Ian Bostridge (tenor), Elizabeth Kenny (lute) and Fretwork perform music by John Dowland.

Presented by Petroc Trelawny.

Tracklisting:
- The King of Denmark's Galliard
- Can she excuse my wrongs (The Earl of Essex's Galliard)
- Flow, my tears (Lachrimae antiquae)
- Farewell Fancy (Chromatic fantasia)
- My thoughts are winged with hopes (Sir John Souch's Galliard)
- Sorrow, stay, lend true repentent tears
- Come again, sweet love doth now invite
- Mr John Langton's Pavan
- Lachrimae amantis
- I saw my lady weep
- If my complaints could passions move (Captain Digorie Piper's Galliard)
- Lachrimae tristes
- In darkness let me dwell
- Shall I strive with words to move (Sir Henry Noel's Galliard)
 
This might just be my favorite symphony movement ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYSWYhhsyy4

Mozart's Symphony No. 41, 4th movement (Molto Allegro) At the end, when all the 5 themes are played at the same time, holy shit. This music just makes me happy. It's a bummer this is Mozart's last symphony, I'd love to hear what else he would have written after this, but at least his last one is so good.
This recording is also on Spotify (Marc Minkowski, Les Musiciens du Louvre: Mozart Symphonies No. 40 & 41) which is really good for classical music by the way. There are a ton of different recordings and I have yet to not find something I wanted to listen to. There are a few specific recordings that are missing but overall, I'm really happy with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Lqqk0cfaA8Y#t=3138
As a bit of a contrast, this is the finale to Mahler's 6th, one of the darkest and most depressing pieces of music I know. It's also like 30 minutes long, which is about the length of an average Mozart symphony as a whole. Interestingly, depressing music never really makes me feel bad, different to movies or TV shows. I tend to feel like shit for a day or two after binging on a drama TV show (first season of Dexter kinda messed me up for a few days, for instance) which is why I stopped watching most TV shows.
 
One of my favorite pieces of all time. Chopins Nocturne #1. Such a beautiful composition.

lol once I played a Dragon Quest game in one of my recitals as an encore. Everyone loved it. The chair of the violin department along with my teacher came up to congratulate me on the concert and the violin chair asked how composed the last piece he loved it but had never heard it when I told him it was an arrangement I made of a piece from a videogame my professor just laughed and laughed the chair just stormed off. He was a thorough traditionalist.

There are some beautiful pieces throughout the series, regardless of their origin.
 
Beethoven's original Op. 130, the one with the Grosse Fuge as the finale, is possibly the most mindblowing classical piece I've ever heard:

http://youtu.be/i29LA1fy5r4

It's undoubtedly amazing but you really have to listen to it with full attention to enjoy it or it becomes really tiring (to me at least). I have the same with Mahler as well. If I just listen to Mahler while programming or playing games it annoys me, if I listen to it with full attention, it's incredible.

I recently discovered Radu Lupu, a fantastic Romanian pianist. There's a few recordings of his on Spotify and I really enjoy them. In particular, his recording of Beethoven's 5th piano concerto is amazing. The first movement never really clicked with me until I listened to this version.
http://open.spotify.com/track/1LwArRUsPz06UzvDSSwaMo
This is the first movement, I wasn't able to find this recording on Youtube, but it's a great recording. Compared to him, all the other versions that I've heard lack power.
 

Llyranor

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Oh wow, just finished Bruckner's 8th symphony. It is really something else. 90+ min where he crafts this outworldly musical structure, ultimately ending with this coda (but has nowhere the impact it should if you're missing the build-up which is the rest of the symphony) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maYun2aOSlw

Such a colossal work.

Bruckner really is the master of the coda finale. I feel the same way about the one from his 4th symphony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz-V4tcO9SY
 

Llyranor

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Hmm, haven't posted in here in a while. This is the latest marvel I've stumbled upon today. BUXTEHUDE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZQRlqCcLAM

I always love a good chaconne.

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Here's another (much longer) piece I fell in love with recently. This time by a living composer (imagine that!), Peteris Vasks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9NXi9O13HU

I especially enjoy the 'Quasi Una Passacaglia' movement that starts about 17min in. The string ostinato (as the piano plays the slow theme) from 17:30 is so lovely <3
 
Oh wow, just finished Bruckner's 8th symphony. It is really something else. 90+ min where he crafts this outworldly musical structure, ultimately ending with this coda (but has nowhere the impact it should if you're missing the build-up which is the rest of the symphony) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maYun2aOSlw

Such a colossal work.

Bruckner really is the master of the coda finale. I feel the same way about the one from his 4th symphony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz-V4tcO9SY

Yeah, I was just thinking about Bruckner as well. Fantastic music, very different from a lot of other Romantic composers. Just don't try to listen to Bruckner as you're trying to fall asleep.
 
Oh wow, just finished Bruckner's 8th symphony. It is really something else. 90+ min where he crafts this outworldly musical structure, ultimately ending with this coda (but has nowhere the impact it should if you're missing the build-up which is the rest of the symphony) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maYun2aOSlw

Such a colossal work.

Bruckner really is the master of the coda finale. I feel the same way about the one from his 4th symphony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz-V4tcO9SY

Holy crap, I know next to nothing about classical compositions, but I am getting serious Hans Zimmer Batman/TDK theme vibes. I'm not crazy, am I? Not the whole theme, just a very specific series.
 

Llyranor

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Holy crap, I know next to nothing about classical compositions, but I am getting serious Hans Zimmer Batman/TDK theme vibes. I'm not crazy, am I? Not the whole theme, just a very specific series.

I assume you're referring to the 8th symphony one? You're not the first one to suggest such a similarity :D
 

iamblades

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All 32 of Beethoven's piano sonatas, recorded by Friedrich Gulda in one giant, nine hour long Youtube video.
Probably my favorite set of all sonatas. Listen to the Adagio of the Hammerklavier (starts at 7:56:00) sonata. No one I know plays it that quickly, but I can't listen to any other version anymore. One of the most beautiful slow movements I know of.

Beethoven's tempo markings for Hammerklavier (which AFAIK is the only piano sonata he gave tempo markings) is faster than anyone plays it at. The first movement seems damn near physically impossible to play at the suggested tempo.

Tempo markings aren't gospel by any means, but IMO every time I've heard Beethoven done as close to the markings as possible, I've felt it improved the music.

The idea that all of Beethoven's tempos were mistakes or his metronome was broken make no sense when you consider what kind of person he was. Setting almost impossibly fast markings sounds exactly like the kind of thing he would do to his players and audience.

Tell me this isn't 100x better than the slow heavy ponderous way that many modern symphonies play it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gXdWELSgEQ

There has been a general trend over the last century for classical music (not just Beethoven, he was just one of the first to adopt tempo markings) to be played slower and slower, that suddenly it seems so much more exciting when played at the original intended speed.

Take Chopin for instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cxkLZoEFEk

Note all the comments about him playing too fast and realize it is still slower than the tempo Chopin marked it at.
 
Beethoven's tempo markings for Hammerklavier (which AFAIK is the only piano sonata he gave tempo markings) is faster than anyone plays it at. The first movement seems damn near physically impossible to play at the suggested tempo.

Tempo markings aren't gospel by any means, but IMO every time I've heard Beethoven done as close to the markings as possible, I've felt it improved the music.

The idea that all of Beethoven's tempos were mistakes or his metronome was broken make no sense when you consider what kind of person he was. Setting almost impossibly fast markings sounds exactly like the kind of thing he would do to his players and audience.

Tell me this isn't 100x better than the slow heavy ponderous way that many modern symphonies play it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gXdWELSgEQ

There has been a general trend over the last century for classical music (not just Beethoven, he was just one of the first to adopt tempo markings) to be played slower and slower, that suddenly it seems so much more exciting when played at the original intended speed.

Take Chopin for instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cxkLZoEFEk

Note all the comments about him playing too fast and realize it is still slower than the tempo Chopin marked it at.

Yeah, for sure. When I first heard the first movement of Beethoven's Kreutzer sonata played at a tempo that's actually Presto (recording by Faust/Melnikov or Kavakos/Pace, both recordings are on Spotify) I was completely surprised at how completely different it sounded. It was kind of mind-blowing for me.

Just listening to it again, and holy fuck I love this piece so much. It's so damn angry and as close to heavy metal as 19th century music gets. So much energy in that movement.
Spotify link
 

iamblades

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Yeah, for sure. When I first heard the first movement of Beethoven's Kreutzer sonata played at a tempo that's actually Presto (recording by Faust/Melnikov or Kavakos/Pace, both recordings are on Spotify) I was completely surprised at how completely different it sounded. It was kind of mind-blowing for me.

Just listening to it again, and holy fuck I love this piece so much. It's so damn angry and as close to heavy metal as 19th century music gets. So much energy in that movement.
Spotify link

Another great example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6pGV69fJI&feature=youtu.be

So much salt in the comments about it being too fast, but he's playing a perfectly acceptable speed for 'adagio'.

I wonder if the slowing of tempos in classical music has any correlation to it switching from a broadly popular entertainment to an elitist, academic one.
 
Another great example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6pGV69fJI&feature=youtu.be

So much salt in the comments about it being too fast, but he's playing a perfectly acceptable speed for 'adagio'.

I wonder if the slowing of tempos in classical music has any correlation to it switching from a broadly popular entertainment to an elitist, academic one.

I don't think so. I mean, classical music was never really a thing for the masses, even before the 20th century. House concerts (families and friends playing chamber music) were pretty popular for a while (second half of the 19th century, until radios/gramophones became popular), but even that was something mostly the upper classes did. The average worker/farmer wasn't really able to afford instruments. Also, people didn't really play say, a Brahms piano quartet with their family unless they were all very musically gifted, since those kinds of pieces have really high technical requirements that most music-making households at the time did not meet. Piano sonatas, string quartets and the like were made for scholars and professional musicians.
 

Number45

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This seems like the right place to ask, rather than starting a new thread. I've *always* loved Adagio for Strings (since I first heard it at least, which was in Platoon) and I haven't been able to decide if it has an emotional impact for me because of the association with the film or just because it's an amazing piece of music.

I'm stumbling around Spotify listening to various classical pieces (this playlist at the moment) but I wonder if someone could make some recommendations that they would consider similar (or different I guess, I don't know what I'll like until I hear it) to that? Of those that I have listened to I definitely seem to lean towards strings, but I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks! :)

Also, listening to Spotify loud is a pain in the arse when you have ads in the way! I wish they'd have the sense to drop them in at a lower volume (even slightly lower would be something).

EDIT: Obviously I'm going through some of the suggestions in this thread. :)
 

Llyranor

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If you want orchestral pieces for strings only, here are a few suggestions:

- Strauss: Metamorphosen
- Tchaikovsky: Serenade for Strings
- Elgar: Introduction & Allegro For Strings
- Vaughan Williams: Fantasia On A Theme By Thomas Tallis
- Mahler: Adagietto (a movement of his 5th Symphony)

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Did you know Samuel Barber also made 2 other arrangements for his Adagio for Strings? One is choral, Agnus Dei. The other is the 2nd movement of his string quartet (Molto Adagio).

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Also, not strings-only, but I'll add a random plug to Sibelius' Swan Of Tuonela (from his Lemminkäinen Suite). Lovely piece :)
 

HeelPower

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I only recently started exploring Beethoven outside of his "mainstream" works such as symphonies and moonlight sonata etc.

Beethoven's Op.18 is composed of 6 heavenly string quartets.I'd say they're currently my favorite things to listen to.I wasn't aware of the extent Beethoven was a master of polyphony/variations.He's soo good and he actually made it his own.It sounds different from Bach's/Baroque instrumental polyphony.

Here's an amazing youtube playlist(and channel) for Op.18 quartets.Also includes works from OP.59(amazing works as well)

I particularly recommend Op.18 String Quartet No.3 in D Major and Beethoven String Quartet No.7 ''Rasumowsky'' in F major, Op.59 But beware,these are difficult,long works that reward only attentive listening imo.

Anyway,I'll obviously continue to listen and re-listen to the insanity that is Beethoven string quartets ,but I am just so happy that I actually started.
 
The Four Seasons is my favorite. I've also recently discovered Johann Pachelbel. Other favorites are Minuet from Luigi Boccherini's String Quarter in E Major, and Clair de Lune.
 

Currygan

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I could listen to Bach's Air on the G String forever. it is proof that gods exist

yup, Bach my mate, definitely. His music is...I don't know how to describe it. Celestial maybe
 

jb1234

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I only recently started exploring Beethoven outside of his "mainstream" works such as symphonies and moonlight sonata etc.

Beethoven's Op.18 is composed of 6 heavenly string quartets.I'd say they're currently my favorite things to listen to.I wasn't aware of the extent Beethoven was a master of polyphony/variations.He's soo good and he actually made it his own.It sounds different from Bach's/Baroque instrumental polyphony.

Here's an amazing youtube playlist(and channel) for Op.18 quartets.Also includes works from OP.59(amazing works as well)

I particularly recommend Op.18 String Quartet No.3 in D Major and Beethoven String Quartet No.7 ''Rasumowsky'' in F major, Op.59 But beware,these are difficult,long works that reward only attentive listening imo.

Anyway,I'll obviously continue to listen and re-listen to the insanity that is Beethoven string quartets ,but I am just so happy that I actually started.

Beethoven's quartets are masterpieces, the late ones especially. They're not as easy to understand and listen to as the earlier ones but repeated listening really pays off.

As far as his chamber music goes, also check out the violin and cello sonatas if you haven't already. He also wrote a terrific set of piano trios.
 
I'm not a huge fan, and probably couldn't tell you what movement/piece was playing, but I do enjoy classical music. I'm a total Movie/Game OST 'classical music' fan. Recently Classic FM in the UK has started to play more and more movie and Game during their shows, and at times have had entire shows around Game OSTs.

I like James Horner's Aliens soundtrack, and would like some recommendations along the same lines - that military/industrial percussion carrying the beat.
 

HeelPower

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Beethoven's quartets are masterpieces, the late ones especially. They're not as easy to understand and listen to as the earlier ones but repeated listening really pays off.

As far as his chamber music goes, also check out the violin and cello sonatas if you haven't already. He also wrote a terrific set of piano trios.

Will do,thanks! I'll continue to advance through the quartet body of work and other chamber music as well.

My current dream is to perform in one of these works one day(admittedly that's probably really far fetched lol)
 

jb1234

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I'm not a huge fan, and probably couldn't tell you what movement/piece was playing, but I do enjoy classical music. I'm a total Movie/Game OST 'classical music' fan. Recently Classic FM in the UK has started to play more and more movie and Game during their shows, and at times have had entire shows around Game OSTs.

I like James Horner's Aliens soundtrack, and would like some recommendations along the same lines - that military/industrial percussion carrying the beat.

Hrm. There might be some 20th century classical music that fits the bill. Horner got a lot of inspiration from the Russians, especially Shostakovich and Prokofiev. Also, Britten. His Ballad of Heroes has a military bent to it, as the opening is a large funeral march.

Will do,thanks! I'll continue to advance through the quartet body of work and other chamber music as well.

My current dream is to perform in one of these works one day(admittedly that's probably really far fetched lol)

What's your instrument?
 
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