CM Punk signs with UFC
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RandyBobandy
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Is that Mick Foley beside him?
Arrowgigantic
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Yes, they went to high school together.
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Deleted member 47027
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You can rank someone without them having a professional fight, I've seen it happen multiple times - people have a strong record in the amateurs and based on the esteemed people who make these things up, they can rank someone based on potential.
Ban Puncher
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So when do the avatar bets start?
Don't forget the claim of being bigger than soccer.
That's the way it really should go. Well, the way it should go is he probably shouldn't have been given a shot at joining the UFC in the first place, but money talks.
You can't be a can yet until you've fought! Now most likely CM Punk will be a can, but I'll wait and see!
You're furthering my point. People are criticizing how he's going to start out fighting cans. That's exactly the competition he should start out fighting.
Biggu Bosu
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Wrestling gifs are the funniest out of context thing there is.
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Ogawa was 7-0 (albeit against cans) before getting dusted off by another scrub in Fedor.
Ishii was actually pretty great in MMA posting a 12-3-1 record beating the likes of Tim Sylvia, Rizzo, Le Banner, Paulo Filho and Monson.
Brock wasn't guaranteed success but there are plenty of wrestlers who can't stand and bang. Brock was also roided to the gills fighting a guy who never looked the same after a motorcycle accident and a 45 year old man. It was just a matter of if he could take a punch to the face which he couldn't.
Wow look at that fool. He was jacked!
In the US it was (not sure about numbers lately).
Valkyr Junkie
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Bahahahahaha.
That is embarrassing.
Biggu Bosu
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And bully wants to fight Brock, lol
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Heel, you wanted to know about Punk's training camp, it looks like he's gonna stay close to home, which means his ass is gonna get waxed.
Any idea where you'll be training?
I can't answer that right now. That's one of the things I've been most overwhelmed about, is the amount of people who've approached me privately or publicly and said, "Hey, train here." I don't know, 'cause the best gyms I have to travel to, and I'm not gonna travel back and forth. I need a home base. I'm gonna have to be somewhere where the gym's close so I can train twice a day. I'm sort of in a hurry to make that decision, but I'm also afforded a little bit of time, so we're gonna have to see what happens.
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Any idea where you'll be training?
I can't answer that right now. That's one of the things I've been most overwhelmed about, is the amount of people who've approached me privately or publicly and said, "Hey, train here." I don't know, 'cause the best gyms I have to travel to, and I'm not gonna travel back and forth. I need a home base. I'm gonna have to be somewhere where the gym's close so I can train twice a day. I'm sort of in a hurry to make that decision, but I'm also afforded a little bit of time, so we're gonna have to see what happens.
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Doesn't sound so good to me.
BoboBrazil
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The dude hasn't even been training yet? First round ko.
No. But Punk eats a lot of deep dish pizza and that's why he isn't willing to travel to do any training.
Christberg
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What's your beef with Punk, stro?
Biggu Bosu
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It's real to him damnit
I have no beef with him. 'Cuz he ate it all.
That's not a very nice thing to say!
Also added too many rules, sucks compared to what Pride MMA fighters could do. Makes most fights a bore to watch because of how rule stricted they are in the UFC.
HE'S FAT
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Now this I can agree with.
Yup all the grappling getting restarted every 30 seconds due to them being next to the ropes was so entertaining. Its not even like it was the UFC that added the rules. The unified rules set were created by athletic commissions. Dana already said he's all for knees to the head of a downed opponent and soccer kicks.
Seems like Punk will end up at Roufusport or ATT. Cesar Gracie seems like a good fit for him though. He's more than likely going to get wrestlefucked for 3 rounds or get beaten into a coma by some no name but I really hope he does well.
It's developing into a bit of an odd situation, in that UFC will want to book him to win but they can't have someone just take a complete dive for a professional wrestler. He has to meet them half way, but any form of real MMA preparation could lead to him quitting before he steps into the octagon. He's not a once-in-a-lifetime athlete like Brock, he's a 36 year old stuntman who broke boards instead of playing tee-ball. To be truly prepared he's going to go beyond the threshold of taking a bad bump from Ryback. He's going to have to get roughed up, and if he's not willing to take it there he may very well embarrass himself.
What I mean is that normally a person going into the UFC will fight someone else who has a pretty poor record, or limited experience in the UFC. But those people will still be experienced fighters having fought in Europe or Japan. To get an opponent for Punk, they'll need to hose down a hobo.
Normally, a guy like punk, with no MMA background would never get a shot in the UFC. And a PPV? They're not gonna put a Seth Petruzelli caliber fighter in with Punk.
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After hearing him talk on Art of Wrestling about what really bothers him, losing in UFC will make him want to kill himself. People are ruthless and know how to get at him.
They don't need a hobo, they just need a 0-0, 1-0, or 0-1 fighter just like it would be in any other promotion that handles new professional fighters. It's certainly not normal for the UFC to have this kind of competition, but as the last few years' undercards have shown, this sort of fight really isn't as far out of the norm as it used to be.
No doubt. Now non wrestling fans are going to be making fun of his body and how he doesn't deserve anything he's getting. The stuff that bothered him most in wrestling (not getting the respect he felt he deserved, having to put over part time guys) are going to be amplified in UFC because he ABSOLUTELY doesn't deserve anything in UFC, especially not a PPV fight that is going to bump someone who deserves a PPV pay day. He's going to get no respect AND he's a real life version of the part timer guy getting special treatment. And get the shit kicked out of him.
Christberg
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It's a completely different set of physical demands. One of these, you have to jump around, faceplant like crazy and if you get completely knocked out or otherewise severely injured mid "match" you shake it off and keep going. And the next 5 nights in a row while you're at it. With 2 days off doing press in between.
In MMA, you get months of careful preparation for a single night where you're in a legit fight and you're lucky if you get out with just hamburger face.
Not going to say one is easier than the other but they don't translate, that's for damn sure.
We won't know how he's going to do until the first fight. He's not going to be able to just punch everybody into a corner like Brock did so he's going to have to take some shots. We'll see what happens.
I don't understand. He spent a lot of time saying how he wasn't getting the treatment he deserved. Do you disagree he deserved better? Why do you think he will assume he deserves more now in the UFC, despite him stating over and over again that he's currently nothing in this sport? If you've listened to anything he's had to say it's very clear how he sees himself in this, and expecting special treatment because of a deluded sense of entitlement just isn't there. The exact opposite in fact.
I think he got more than he deserved in WWE. Just the idea that he has zero fighting experience, or even legitimate athletic history, yet is getting a multi-fight deal on PPV with the largest MMA company in the world at the expense of people who have been fighting and training for years and he's totally cool with that leads me to believe he thinks he deserves it.
In WWE, he got every chance he could ask for except for a WM main event. Well, a lot of great dudes never got a WM main event. When he was doing his stuff after MITB, he talked about how he did everything Cena did. All the press and appearances and all that. What he didn't say is that he constantly bitched about HAVING to do all that and was a grumpy dick about it all the time.
A 0-0 fighter in the UFC is not the same as Punk, who is. 0-0 fighter in MMA. The UFC doesn't sign people with zero professional fighting experience. A "normal" 0-0 fighter would be way too experienced. They need a real can, someone who would never get into the UFC, if only to fight Punk.
Do they still do the Ultimate Fighter? He should go in there.
But I get why Dana wants him for a PPV, Punk's first fight is where all the money is, because it's unlikely he's gonna have a career at this.
So you listened to that podcast and think he was treated too well? That's bizarre, frankly.
I don't think anyone, himself included, would deny being given the chance to do this is an incredibly privledge. He "earned" it by being well known. Nothing he's said has suggested he feels like he deserves respect from people who have been doing this. Did you see his reaction to fighters even saying hi to him? I get the feeling you haven't listened to or watched any of this.
newdayrocks
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So I know absolutely nothing about MMA/UFC, but am thoroughly excited to see what/how Punk does.
Stupid question time: Does UFC have their fighters do promos similar to those inside WWE? If so, are they all in a press-conference-type setting, in the ring, backstage?
Stupid question time: Does UFC have their fighters do promos similar to those inside WWE? If so, are they all in a press-conference-type setting, in the ring, backstage?
Ziltoidia 9
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From what I've seen (which is little), they have promo packages for the athlete, they will do press conferences/weigh ins and after the fight the winner gets interviewed.
Realistically speaking, CM Punk is going to get destroyed unless they book him a really, really terrible opponent. He hasn't competed in any sport before, but he's practised BJJ with top guys for a while, at least.
If he ends up training with guys that are offering to help him like Daniel Cormier at AKA or Robbie Lawler or ATT, who knows. He could become a decent fighter.
If he ends up training with guys that are offering to help him like Daniel Cormier at AKA or Robbie Lawler or ATT, who knows. He could become a decent fighter.
Ninja Scooter
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But there are tons of guys who train at a high level and never amount to anything. I don't see what would make CM Punk any different. He's not a particularly great athlete. He doesn't have any sort of natural speed/size/strength advantage. He's old as donkey shit. I don't see how this doesn't end with either A) him fighting some scrub BJJ amateur much like himself and they have a shitty glorified grappling competition in the octagon or B) he fights someone remotely legit who knocks him into a nice 3 bedroom/2 bath townhouse on queer street. I don't think he'll just be some natural who takes to it and becomes a UFC level fighter. This will be Michael Jordan playing baseball at best and even in that scenario, opposing pitchers weren't trying to knock Jordan unconscious.
No. I think he got more than he deserved from a business stand point. He was lucky to get what he got considering his personality and lack of athleticism and average body. He made a ton of money and was made a focal point of the biggest company in the world of the profession of his choosing. I can't speak to the medical stuff. I can speak to the fact that he got a lot more opportunities than most people in the past 15 years did and doesn't seem to appreciate it because he didn't get MORE.
His complaints boil down to "X got to do that. Why didn't I get to do that?" and "X got paid that much. Why didn't I get paid that much?". He comes off as an egomaniac trying to work all of his fans into believing he's just a dude struggling against the system just like everyone else. But he isn't. He's a miserable cunt who is jealous of everyone around him. This ego issue is already showing up with his MMA career before it even starts with him already saying he isn't going to be traveling for training camp.
Professor Beef
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Practicing with 12 year olds wouldn't exactly qualify as top-tier training.
Kano on the Phone
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He didn't just show up and trip into being over, he worked for it and got himself over. He made money and didn't get as much of that money as he felt he deserved. I don't see how you can argue with that.
You can say "well, without WWE he doesn't make that money" but I can't imagine if you could tangibly show your job that you brought in, say, ten million dollars last year and you got paid 100k,you wouldn't want more of a slice. Punk laid out very specific instances where they cost him money.
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