Doesn't matter - his ring work in 2000 was outstanding. The dude had one of the best single years of any heel, ever, and was the perfect foil to The Rock same way Vince was to Austin. Without HHH, 2000 WWF (minus Austin) starts losing ratings because as good as The Rock is, him fighting Undertaker and Angle every month would've hit them hard.
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Doesn't matter - his ring work in 2000 was outstanding. The dude had one of the best single years of any heel, ever, and was the perfect foil to The Rock same way Vince was to Austin. Without HHH, 2000 WWF (minus Austin) starts losing ratings because as good as The Rock is, him fighting Undertaker and Angle every month would've hit them hard.
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Make Roman look good.
StylesClash
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Strong not good.
PhantomZone
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I think HHH's 1999-2001 was glorious, loved his heel work back then. However I was wary about the "banging the bosses" daughter stuff. The age I was at the time I swore it was a real life angle in that he was scheming his way to get to the top of the company by being in a relationship with her (thus being able to stay at the top regardless if he flops or not in terms of ratings, ppv sales etc).
My attitude towards HHH started changing when they over promoted his return in 2002. Totally agreed with Kurt Angle's backstage promo at the time (big lol when that happened). Couldn't stand it when he was shoved down the viewers throats.
I understood where they were going with the angle in 2002/2003 - trying to be the modern day Ric Flair. But he got really boring during that period, was not the same as the 99/01 heel :-/.
I've always thought that he strived for acceptance or acknowledgement as the greatest or one of the greats (when he was constantly winning the world title I assumed he was going to attempt to achieve the feat of becoming the greatest ever simply by being the person to win the same belt the most amount of times, I noted at the time that just because you might have won the same belt more times than anyone else doesn't automatically make you the greatest, especially in the circumstances we are in with him having "control" of the company.).
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Prime Triple H was ok.
But he wasnt a HBK, Rock, Stone Cold or Taker no matter how much they try and twist the history books to make it so.
He was the best B+ player of the attitude era. He was the Randy Orton of the time. The dude you ran with when the main dude was hurt.
Oh and its a shame we never got Heel HHH versus Punk.
Dude should have turned when he got involved with the Summer of Punk. It made perfect sense and looking at how much he has fallen into that role the last year made it clear what a opportunity they missed.
But he wasnt a HBK, Rock, Stone Cold or Taker no matter how much they try and twist the history books to make it so.
He was the best B+ player of the attitude era. He was the Randy Orton of the time. The dude you ran with when the main dude was hurt.
Oh and its a shame we never got Heel HHH versus Punk.
Dude should have turned when he got involved with the Summer of Punk. It made perfect sense and looking at how much he has fallen into that role the last year made it clear what a opportunity they missed.
Given that he's nothing more than a shorter Test, not gonna happen.
Heh, my housemate said the same thing when I was paying the WWE 2k15 showcase mode. "Is that the guy from The Talking Dead?!".
Surprised she recognised him though, what with how his model looks in the game.
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I cannot tell a lie, Shane was badass and ballsy! Even Big Show gave Shane the thumbs-up on more than one occasion.
Shane was the shit!
His match against Kurt Angle King of the Ring 2001 is insanely good.
Them suplex' through the glass, oh my
"through" only applies to one of them though as the other times the glass tried to kill him. Love on the second window, Kurt just gives up and throws him through it.
Yep. WWE is on some weird fucking domination shit with their employees, I don't have a better word to describe it, but for me it works perfectly.
They could have had a good go at it though. Booker T and RVD were legit over until they were buried.
RVD ..lol.
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Triple h in 2000 is one of the most overrated years for any wrestler ever. I could name dozens of wrestlers that had better in ring years. Ric flair by himself had at least a half dozen better years, and that is probably being extremely generous.
What? He was pretty fucking over.
True. He was so hot then it forced him into the main event, but he did nothing after that triple threat. They could have at least had him win the WCW title the PPV after.
Maybe but that stoner could never carry the fucking company. Hell, one chance he got he fucked it up.
I'm not saying that, but putting him and Booker as equals to HHH would have done a hell of a lot to keep the product interesting. Maybe a quick reign here and there for HHH to win it back.
Sure. That would have been fine I guess. What it would have done to ratings is all speculation though. Might not have changed diddly.
I would have watched Raw, so that's PLUS ONE BABY.
I really enjoyed HHH back then too, but not to the point where it was rammed down my throat for most of a show every week.
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Triple h is one of the best wrestlers of the past 15 years whose matches and promos go 25 minutes longer than they should.
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Triple H put on possibly the best match of the entire year at Mania 30. Dude's great. He's in his actual prime now.
I can't tell if some of you guys are taking the piss or not, but Trips was the reason I watched wrestling back in the day. I only ever really consistently watched WWE from 98-02 and HHH was legit for me. The Rock and Stone Cold were great, and I loved their matches, but I honestly thought HHH was the best in the business. Dat sledgehammer.
I was only a kid at the time mind so I was never interested in the technical side or anything, still aren't tbh.
I was only a kid at the time mind so I was never interested in the technical side or anything, still aren't tbh.
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How's his match gonna do this year, not against one of the actual best in the world?
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Against Sting? It's gonna be DOPE.
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HHH stopped being reliably great when the mcmahon helmsley era stuff ended. His promos were really fun back then, especially with foley and rock.
Evolution is a mystery....as to why it was even on my telly. just did not work.
Evolution is a mystery....as to why it was even on my telly. just did not work.
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God yes it is, and god yes that is TRULY hideous on multiple levels. They got it right.
Not even slightly.
The guy was fucking God-tier in 2000. He had a match with Taka, who was curtain jerking at the time, and managed to make the crowd think Taka was his equal AND seconds from winning the title. Now Taka was a damn fine wrestler, but HHH made him look like a threat contrary to what he was before or after.
And his matches with Jericho (Fully Loaded), Rock (Backlash) and Benoit (No Mercy) were all excellent, wildly different matches. If anything HHH pushed himself so hard in 2000 and 2001 that post quad he had to readjust to a 1980s heel champ approach.
He also deserves props for having three excellent matches with Taker at Mania, again each one wildly different and the last one a masterclass in psychology. The 'oh they didn't do much' thing just sums up how good HHH and Taker are at conveying meaning in a match, compared to a guy like Ziggler who can only get over by taking absurd bumps every two seconds, the useless shite.
Punk's just jealous because HHH had better matches with everyone that Punk faced, except Cena. HHH gave him a freebie.
DBry I will give you, but Punk had much better matches with Taker and Brock than HHH.
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Punk and HHH can both be great wrestlers, it doesn't have to be one or the other.
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Are we classifying that wrestlemania 17 match with the 20 minute ref bump where high got powerbombed onto a bed of foam as a "great" match now
HHH made Curtis Axel look like a beast, and Punk fucked it up. That jobber.
lmao yeah great rub HHH gave to Curtis Axel.
Jokes aside, HHH made Axel look like shit and CM Punk finished the job. I mean good God, Punk vs Axel was the least competitive feud in years.
Amazing gif really. Punk and Rio gone, Ziggler overshadowed.
Perfect metaphor.
Axel seems like a good dude and probably can be a great lower mid-card talent if such a thing existed in the WWE today.
Having him feud with Trips and Punk was a mistake.
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Axel should have just been Lesnar's attack dog on raws. That way Axel could have done lesnar's fighting when he wasn't there. The whole Axel line was horrible because it was shady shit and basically asked the crowd to like him because "PAUL HEYMAN GUY". If the Axel stuff didn't ruin it at first, the ryback stuff truly ruined it. I think vince likes to just shit on anything that is good.
The problem was building to Punk vs Lesnar THEN having him feud with Axel/Ryback. Should've had him work his way up, then face Brock. Instead he drifted and... wanted to beat Heyman up, I guess.
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