Hahahaha, this good on a few levels!
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CNN: Jeb Bush Campaign in freefall
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Hahahaha, this good on a few levels!
gutter_trash
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Trump is a good salesman, a good marketer and has zeroed in on focus groups and what triggers reactions to boost him (like he did on Reality TV)
Trump knows what buttons to push among ''that'' segment of the population that will boost him in the primaries.
But Trump doesn't not have the blessing of the establishment
He's a candidate the likes of which no one's ever had to deal with before. He delivers incomprehensibly woeful answers to every single legitimate question posed. Apparently that's remedied by talking shit, and telling lie after lie. A true adversary for the ages.
I think it's more a matter of jeb's window of opportunity having been closed for awhile now
Also it doesn't help to be brother of the worst president in modern history when running for president
It's actually more like a -10% return. He was a lot more popular before the race.
DragonSworne
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People don'the want another Bush. God knows why they favor Rubio since he is another Bush as well.
benjipwns
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Ross Perot.
That's where the second part of what I said comes in. It's astonishing.
benjipwns
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I don't know, when I cut it out, I forgot that Ross Perot claimed that the GOP was going to invade and disrupt his daughters wedding. And that they were sending men in suits around after him.
Before he suddenly dropped out, due to this fiendish GOP plot, Perot was leading both Bush and Clinton in the general election polls.
Vigilant Walrus
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Amazing how two words "low energy: can ruin someone's campaign. Someone that the part 5 years ago thought was great.
Also:
you know he loves that kendrick lamar and wu-tang too. coolio is his favorite<3
ClosingADoor
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Awkward times ahead at the Christmas dinner for Jeb.
Wouldn't have worked then either. The general public was still very low on his brother. It is likely that would have negatively affected his numbers in the general election if not in the Republican primary. Essentially, W. screwed the pooch for future Bush members to win the White House for a very long time.
Walter White Walker
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He tried, he failed. It's over. It would be nice to see a number of these clowns exit the car, and Jeb! is definitely one of them.
djplaeskool
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Manmademan
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Given how inept he's been in 2016 against Ben Carson and Donald Trump there is absolutely NO reason to believe he would have gotten past Romney or Gingrich, much less Obama.
Jeb! Is a bad candidate.
RustyNails
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Hero denied his sweatshirt
diffusionx
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I respect the hell out of Bush Sr. but the fact that he thought Jeb was his true successor makes me question his judgement.
I bet Dubya is feeling great right now. Probably had the biggest shit eating grin at Thanksgiving.
Karl Rove was the true mastermind. Although, to be fair, Kerry defeated himself.
lol
I've never seen this but that is amazing. SO MUCH SALT.
PhoenixDark
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Jeb is simply running in the wrong era. The grassroots conservative movements have marched further and further right to the point where another boring establishment guy simply can't win. There's an old saying that democrats fall in love, republicans fall in line. McCain and Romney were the traditional "next guy up" that usually wins GOP nominations and they didn't inspire much of any confidence among grassroots activist types.
I think this could be a 1964 type situation where the grassroots, extremist candidate wins in the absence of a good establishment choice. Rubio is superior to Bush yet doesn't seem to have on-the-ground momentum, given how shitty his campaign is being run. Cruz has the heart of the modern GOP, I think he has a shot. I'm of course assuming that Trump has no real shot.
I think this could be a 1964 type situation where the grassroots, extremist candidate wins in the absence of a good establishment choice. Rubio is superior to Bush yet doesn't seem to have on-the-ground momentum, given how shitty his campaign is being run. Cruz has the heart of the modern GOP, I think he has a shot. I'm of course assuming that Trump has no real shot.
bobbychalkers
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My reaction to this thread title says alot:
"oh he's still running?
"oh he's still running?
But... I thought he could fix it ;_;
Really? It's either going to be Trump or Rubio, I think.
Led_Zeppelin
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His biggest fault was being part of the establishment, the republicans have been crumbling over the weight of their internal struggles, which is why Trump is so fix in the first place in the primaries with a second changing every month depending on the media coverage and or up and goings of a traditional election race.
The thing is that Jeb may have the support of the establishment of the GOP but it seems like the primary republican voters want nothing to do with the GOP establishment.
If he can sustain itself in the race (he has after all the biggest Super Pac of all candidates not named Hillary so he has the money to maintain itself in the election) while others with less money start to drop out he may find himself as the option for the traditional conservative voters that doesn't buy into Trumps rhetoric or ideas.
The thing is that Jeb may have the support of the establishment of the GOP but it seems like the primary republican voters want nothing to do with the GOP establishment.
If he can sustain itself in the race (he has after all the biggest Super Pac of all candidates not named Hillary so he has the money to maintain itself in the election) while others with less money start to drop out he may find himself as the option for the traditional conservative voters that doesn't buy into Trumps rhetoric or ideas.
TheLostBigBoss
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never gonna get old
Smokey_Run
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I think he's just sticking around hoping establishment Republicans finally make their move and back someone like him or Rubio. He'll be one of the first to fold when the primaries actually start.
It's the only chance he has.
Mammoth Jones
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100% spot on. No one wants the Bush.
I don't see why they would back him at this point. Rubio already destroyed him in the debate, so it'll have to be Rubio.
Jack Remington
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I have a maximum bet on Predictit that he won't win the nomination. Might buy an Xbone with my winnings. It's so glorious.
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