He doesn't believe the govt should provide healthcare.
Colin Moriarty is leaving Kinda Funny Games.
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H.Cornerstone
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That is completely different than what you said here:
If you think him calling for the end of all taxes whatsoever. 0% taxes and a government with no budget and no ability to provide any services at all isn't calling for anarchy then I don't know what would qualify to you.
TheLostBigBoss
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ok, and he never said anything you just mentioned above.
so you're just making shit up because...
I have to jump in here because you probably don't know what his twitter handle means and that's ok, history is not for everyone. As everyone knows Colin loves history, especially the American Revolution, No Taxation Without Representation was a huge rallying cry leading up to the war. That is simply what it means and he has stated that in podcasts before.
More on topic though I've been a fan of Colin and Greg since the IGN days and it's going to be weird now not having Colin on a podcast I listen to every week.
Dr. Black Jack
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I sure do get where you're coming from and why someone would think that, but you can't use someone's username, of all things, to judge their entire character.
ChaosZeroX
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Jeez. Did he do something to you personally?
Not defending him or anything, but thats alot of hate for a dude that just spews his opinion over the internet.
I don't think people disagree with Colin that Horizon should be celebrated for its efforts to diversify its population. The problem is that, as usual, Colin throws out the baby with the bath water. Most here probably agree that Horizon isn't very guilty of cultural appropriation in the way that writer argues. But Colin goes even further to essentially argue that cultural appropriation is a bullshit issue in all cases. The truth is that cultural appropriation is real and has been a problem in many cases. Issues like Halloween party outfits are not the big issues that cultural appropriation causes. The biggest problem is when a cultural tradition or practice from a minority/foreign group gets co-opted and over time people no longer associate that tradition or practice with the originating group. It is essentially identity osmosis and it sucks when it happens.
MadLaughter
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Doesn't have to do anything to *me*, because I have empathy for the marginalized people that his ideas/actions are harmful towards.
meanspartan
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Except he ISNT calling for those things.
FlaygletheBagel
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You do realize his Twitter handle is just a reference to a phrase that was frequently used in the American Revolution, right? He has never advocated no taxes altogether.
harrisk954
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You are so right... honestly, the popularity of Kinda Funny (and IGN before that) among gamers (and not even all gamers, just those who are in a certain segment of the gaming community) does not translate into the sort of notoriety that Colin believes he has. He went on a 10 minute discussion with Greg a couple of weeks ago on PS, I Love You, about whether or not he is one of the most famous people out of Long Island. I know it was tongue in cheek to a certain extent, but I think that Colin believes it.
Without the fan base of Kinda Funny that he got from IGN and his affiliation with Greg (love or hate Greg, he is well-connected and well-liked in the gaming community), he is destined to be just another nobody with an opinion on the internet.
For Colin to leave the company just because the other guys did not agree with him or his Tweet is just childish.
simatron3000
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Dunno why he got the chop over others. He hasn't been there all that long so can't imagine he commanded a tremendous salary. Maybe some lesser known names also got let go as well?
I remember when Ryan Clements got let go and was like wtf Ryan was the best.
There hasn't been much news regarding his departure. I have seen an amusing picture going around of his Nintendo Switch review (7.0) and his tweet announcing his lay off.
meanspartan
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No taxation without representation. Thats where he gets it from. He has discussed this on podcasts before many times - he thinks federal taxes should be minimal with higher local taxes.
In fairness a good percentage of the posts have been people with posts like this.
They had a following and its an interesting situation.
Quick Google search about Colins thoughts on taxes:
https://mobile.twitter.com/notaxation/status/665727338433220609
Looks like theres lots of video too about him and taxes. Not about to go down that rabbit hole.
https://mobile.twitter.com/notaxation/status/665727338433220609
Looks like theres lots of video too about him and taxes. Not about to go down that rabbit hole.
The Salt Life
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I agree with that 100%, but it's very difficult to make people care about that if it's not high up on their priority list. Greg and Colin made it known that in their opinion it was a non issue. To other podcasters they can have a different opinion and feel more strongly, that's the beautiful thing about podcasting.
I always thought his username was a spin on, "No taxation without representation".
donutzsick
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I love the people who are super ignorant getting schooled by reasonable/educated people in this thread. Especially the people who don't know what his twitter handle means lmaooooo that's like middle school stuff
Pray tell, who is going to pay for the extremely hundreds of billions of dollars every year at the federal level for Medicare, Medicaid, and so on then?
TheLostBigBoss
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it is
Don't confuse annoyance with hate. I wouldn't waste energy hating someone like him. He's just awful in general.
See, if peopleread the first two words of that sentence only, they get the wrong idea. That's why reading his username and immediately attacking the guy is dangerous behavior, in the sense that it makes it easy to dismiss everything they say after that. Not saying I'd personally do it, but a lot of people would.
No he doesnt believe the current set up of Government can provide healthcare. A government that is already 18 trillion in debt, and still spends more than it recieves. I dont think he is against healthcare 100% and I think you miss a lot of nuance in his arguments.
He has also argued in favour of a VAT instead of high income tax, or running government like a business in terms of an investment to profit setup in order to lower taxes.
Salty Hippo
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What you just described is a slice of libertarianism. Some libertarians are anarcho-capitalists who defend zero taxes and the complete elimination of the state. Not sure where Colin falls into, but libertarianism and anarchism are not mutually exclusive.
harrisk954
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I don't know who "a lot of people" are or how many they amount to, but Colin's "fame" (if you want to call it that) was based upon gamers, not political junkies. Most gamers are younger, identify as either Democrat or Independent and have more liberal views than Colin. He is not going get any vast numbers of gamers to follow him so that he can pontificate about politics and he an unknown in the world of political commentary. Gamers listened to him for his "insights" into games and gaming culture/history, not for his views on healthcare reform.
So, he would be starting from (basically) ground zero in an over saturated segment of podcasters. And, in all honesty, I do not believe that Colin has the personality or the quick wit necessary to get a job on a "mainstream" right-leaning political channel, even one like Fox News... He is just bland and (to me), his attempts at joking fell flat most times... he was certainly not very good at vamping when Greg had to step off mic for anything more than a few seconds (for that matter, neither was Greg good at it).
Perhaps he would do well as a political writer, but I have to disagree with you that he is going to be anything close to "incredibly successful".
Greg seemed firm on the belief that "this isn't cultural appropriation". Colin was firm on the belief that "cultural appropriation is always a bullshit complaint."
Nothing really beautiful about Colin's perspective.
That's what you love about this thread? The few posters who don't get the American revolution slogan? That's not revealing about you or anything.
digitalrelic
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I've seen dozens of people do exactly this in only the last few pages. You're kind of validating Colin's 'Outrage Culture' argument when you react this way. You literally don't even know what you're mad about. Hell, as a far left liberal, reading this thread has convinced me to recognize some of Colin's viewpoints more than Colin himself was ever able to.
TheLostBigBoss
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he probably thinks and believes in some type of reform to it to bring down costs and other stuff that I'm sure you could google search and find on his twitter from years ago
Primethius
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Uh, wow.
Darryl M R
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Colin said there is nothing wrong with a white person dressing up as a Native American for Halloween.
harrisk954
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Come on... A little over the top and hyperbolic, don't you think? Colin is a Republican/Libertarian and a conservative. I do not believe in his position on almost anything politically. I am a moderate Democrat who worked on the Hillary campaign. But, he was not turning KF into a Breitbart News. That is just silly. And, by the way, Colin is anti-Trump and was a "never Trumper" during the election, so he is not a complete ideologue. And, "Colin was Right" was a joke started by Greg.
That being said, I believe that he is making a HUGE mistake leaving KF at this point in its growth. It was going very well for those guys and Colins departure may very well end, not only his career, but damage his friends at KF ,as well.
digitalrelic
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He's extremely divisive and he energizes a ton of people. I think Colin will continue to talk about games but it will probably be heavily lined with politics. This thread alone shows how much success he could have. Nearly 4000 replies. Divisiveness breeds viewership.
digitalrelic
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Think you could provide some meaningful contribution?
Spiral Insanity
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I think the opposite, let's hope this hasn't soured Kinda Funny. Now they can try to rebuild.
Go_Ly_Dow
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I think now he will be forgotten especially when he leaves the group that would have kept him in the spotlight.
H.Cornerstone
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Agreed, I think it's quite clear that they want different things in life. Greg/Tim/Nick are dudes who just want to have fun talking about video games and having an inclusive community.
Colin wants to talk politics and for lack of a better word, troll people to prove a point. I think Greg/Tim/Nick are tired of dealing with the fallout and the divisiveness from Colin's comments and Colin hates seeing them having to deal with it.
meanspartan
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Im not saying I agree with him - I dont. But you were totally misrepresenting his views.
"How do you do, fellow feminists?"This goes on for maybe two more screens worth of tweets. Please send help.
EDIT: He's still going, just gonna block him.
Name 24 in the last two pages.
The Salt Life
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Well they said the door is open to him to come back if he wants so it might as well see what happens.
Primethius
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You're convinced to recognize some of Colin's viewpoints because of some posters in the thread? Seems illogical and speaks to the strength of the underlying viewpoint.
Considering the size of this thread i have the feeling gaf will keep me up to date about whatever Colin is doing.
Darryl M R
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