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[Ripclawe]

foxnews alert.

and spencer Abraham steps down as energy secretary.

 

[Doth Togo]

THIS JUST IN...

































Bush gives up and goes home to tend his garden Candide style.

 

[Drozmight]

Wow... I was really hoping rumsfeld would step down

 

[teiresias]

Thank god, one less RINO in the white house.

 

[heavy liquid]

Now if we can just get his son out of the FCC...

 

[Doth Togo]

Now if we can just get his son out of the FCC...

Yes.

 

[DarienA]

Is this really a surprise to anyone? Colin Powell's job was doomed when he did that presentation on where the WMD's were stored in Iraq just before the war in front of the UN. And yeah I'd like to see his son kicked too.

 

[Tortfeasor]

If these resignations happened before the election, would it have made a difference in the way people voted? I think so...

 

[mrmyth]

Is this really a surprise to anyone? Colin Powell's job was doomed when he did that presentation on where the WMD's were stored in Iraq just before the war in front of the UN. And yeah I'd like to see his son kicked too.

Disagree. Powell still had a free ride in the Bush admin, if he would've toed the line more. He's too moderate for the neocons that are about to take over there. This is a bail out.

 

[cybamerc]

Didn't he always say that he would only serve one term?

 

[N Coward Parody]

How common is it to have THIS many resignations heading into a president's second term? I was still rather young and apathetic during the lead-in to Clinton's... Is this at all abnormal?


*Noel Coward Parody

 

[cybamerc]

I believe it's quite normal in the US. Expected even.

 

[Poody]

NOthing new. I thought everyone knew he would step down along with 90% of his cabinent.

 

[Triumph]

I have the disturbing feeling that only Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Rice will not step down, and they are the ones that need to.

 

[MIMIC]

From MSNBC:

For many months, Powell had been viewed as a likely one-term secretary of state but he has always been vague about his intentions. He had said repeatedly in recent weeks that he serves at “the pleasure of the president.”

So the "one term" thing was just speculation.

 

[Pfucata]

Saw this on another site though

Clinton
2 Sec State
3 Sec Treasury
1 AG
3 Sec Defense
1 Sec Interior
2 Sec Agriculture
4 Sec Commerce
2 Sec Labor
1 Sec Health and Human Services
2 Sec HUD
2 Sec Transportation
3 Sec Energy
1 Sec Education
3 Sec Vet Affairs
=
30 total, for 14 positions

Reagan
2 Sec State
3 Sec Treasury
3 AG
2 Sec Defense
3 Sec Interior
2 Sec Agriculture
2 Sec Commerce
3 Sec Labor
3 Sec Health and Human Services
1 Sec HUD
3 Sec Transportation
3 Sec Energy
3 Sec Education
=
33 Total for 14 positions

So the real question is who Powell's successor will be...

 

[Ripclawe]

How common is it to have THIS many resignations heading into a president's second term? I was still rather young and apathetic during the lead-in to Clinton's... Is this at all abnormal?


*Noel Coward Parody

very normal.

So the real question is who Powell's successor will be...

Condi.

 

[xsarien]

Condi.

Please God no...

 

[luxsol]

Didn't he always say that he would only serve one term?

Yeah, we've known this for over a year now. Like someone said though, he was always vague about it.

 

[Mercury Fred]

Rats leaving a sinking ship.

 

[Dilbert]

The thing that I've never understood is exactly why he would put his considerable reputation on the line to go to the UN and present what he MUST have known was a sack of shit being passed off as "intelligence"...especially since he was clearly frozen out of the administration's inner circle from the word "go." You would think that a man revered for his leadership would have had the guts to resign, rather than sully his own name.

Come to think of it, xsarien's "pod theory" sounds about right. I mean, why else would Powell fall on someone else's sword? And the whole thing with McCain is beyond frightening. Does that man have no memory at ALL about exactly how he was fucked over in South Carolina? If he needs to refresh his memory, there was a great article in Vanity Fair recently which can bring him up to speed.

 

[BigJonsson]

I don't understand why some cabinet members resign for the 2nd term...

Don't they want to finish what they started?

 

[ConfusingJazz]

I don't understand why some cabinet members resign for the 2nd term...

Don't they want to finish what they started?

I wouldn't think so, you have to take a lot of shit, work long hours, and suffer lots of stress. Powell also had the rug pulled out from under him a couple of times while he was off on a diplomatic mission, and he seemed to be the administrations lacky and good face to the media.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

I don't understand why some cabinet members resign for the 2nd term...

Don't they want to finish what they started?

The only have to be in office to start it, not to finish it. =(

 

[siamesedreamer]

Like it or not, Condi will step in and it sets her up as a possible VP candidate in '08 or '12.

 

[Cool]

G00D M1M3 BU5H C4B1N3T!!!!11

 

[BigJonsson]

Condaleeza Rice will just piss off the world even more

 

[Mandark]

Condi's one qualification for the job is total, unwavering loyalty to the boss. Which counts for a whole lot in this administration (just ask Paul O'Neill, or Larry Lindsey for that matter).

There's a purge of the insufficiently idealogical going on both within the Republican party machinery and in allegedly non-partisan government agencies. If Powell had wanted to, I'm sure he could have stayed on, but he would have been more isolated than ever.

Cabinet members do often change from one term to the next in an administration, but this is no standard "wanted to get away from stressful job/make oodles in the private sector" resignation. Powell and the State Dept. got in a fight with the DoD and the neocon hawks and lost. He was marginalized both as a public figure and as an author of US foreign policy.

If one of Powell's undersecretaries was the leading candidate to replace him, and the the State Dept would continue to push for the same goals that Powell has pushed for, then this wouldn't be such a big deal. But that is obviously not the case.

 

[Fragamemnon]

George Bush has a belief, founded in great personal experience, that you can fail your way to the top, and he's more than willing to extend that belief to his subordinates.

Condi Rice, who failed spectacularly to properly defend this country against against it's most deadly attack ever, is promoted to become our mouthpiece to the rest of the world.

Alberto Gonzalez, whose mangling of treaty law and constitutional precedent brought abuses and imagery that the Arab world will never forgive us for, is promoted to the top lawyer of the land.

Paul Wolfowitz, whose inerring faith in flawed ideology will yield dead Americans daily for years, will probably be promoted to the top advisor for keeping our country secure.

Next time I hear some GOP bobblehead wailing about a mericratic society, he's getting a punch in the face, or at least ask if we can apply the same principlesapplied to cabinet selections to welfare reform in this country.

 

[explodet]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=254647

And the winner is....

Nov. 15, 2004-- National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, one of President Bush's closest counselors, will be nominated to replace Colin Powell as secretary of state, ABC News has learned.

Senior administration sources confirmed that Rice would be Bush's choice. The news comes just hours after the White House announced Powell had submitted his resignation.

 

[Phoenix]

Didn't he always say that he would only serve one term?

Yes, but sit back with popcorn and watch how people ignore that fact.

 

[Boogie]

Rice as SecState? Bush purging the CIA of those who won't toe his line?

All right then, GAF liberals, I'm hopping on the bandwagon for the next four years.

 

[xsarien]

I wonder how long the moderate Republicans will just let this all happen before they either completely break from the party, or take it back by force.

 

[MetatronM]

Yeah. Thoroughly unsurprising.

 

[cvxfreak]

Only good can come out of this.

 

[Phoenix]

Condi Rice is going to be nominated at Sec. of State.... take that to the bank

 

[Triumph]

Condi Rice is going to be nominated at Sec. of State.... take that to the bank

Yup.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041115/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_cabinet

Hmm, that couch still available Bish?

 

[Prospero]

I just saw this on ABC. You have got to be kidding.

 

[Shinobi]

Wow... I was really hoping rumsfeld would step down

:lol That was about as likely as Cheaney stepping down...

 

[Matlock]

"Guys, I'm just getting out of here before they start playing 'blame the negro' again."

 

[MIMIC]

I'd support Rice if she wasn't affiliated with Bush.

 

[firex]

He's going to go practice his love across the country with all the white women who voted for Bush this month.

 

[Fragamemnon]

Same disinformation, different face. Both tragic, in their own sort of ways.

 

[BigJonsson]

Jon Stewart is going to be mighty upset

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

Poor guy, he got hosed.

 

[JackFrost2012]

To me, Condaleeza Rice will forever be the admissions officer who let me into Stanford and got on stage once a year to sing in the Cal-bashing Gaities show.

SECRETARY OF STATE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?!

 

[Ramirez]

"Condaleeza Rice sounds like some kind of Mexican dish!"

 

[Shinobi]

Same disinformation, different face.

:lol

 

[DarienA]

It is amazing to me how ass-kissingly Rice has supported Bush during his tenure.... I guess this is her reward for what he would call... steadfast dedication and support.

 

[Cool]

Now all we need is this guy out...

...yeah.