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Herman is gone, Oliver will be as wellWe must be talking about a different Oliver. I'm talking about Ed Oliver on Houston's defense that's a true freshman and Houston's highest rated recruit in their history
Herman is gone, Oliver will be as wellWe must be talking about a different Oliver. I'm talking about Ed Oliver on Houston's defense that's a true freshman and Houston's highest rated recruit in their history
How though, the committee had already written louisville outaaand bye felicia to Louisville, this definitely makes things interesting in the CFP.
How though, the committee had already written louisville out
I'm really not understanding this disrespect card you Louisville fans have been playing. You were ranked 5th, with two weeks left in the season. Of the four teams ranked above you, one is undefeated and another is the team in your same division who beat you. The other two will play each other next weekend. Were you guaranteed a spot in the playoffs? No. Did you need things to fall your way for you to get in? Yes, but this is college football. Crazy shit happens. Ask Oke State fans. You couldn't have been better positioned given who you'd lost to.How though, the committee had already written louisville out
The comittee not moving the wolverines at all after losing to an unranked Iowa basically put their cards on the table, they would take 2 big ten teams before us, even if it had to be a two loss team, that's whyI'm really not understanding this disrespect card you Louisville fans have been playing. You were ranked 5th, with two weeks left in the season. Of the four teams ranked above you, one is undefeated and another is the team in your same division who beat you. The other two will play each other next weekend. Were you guaranteed a spot in the playoffs? No. Did you need things to fall your way for you to get in? Yes, but this is college football. Crazy shit happens. Ask Oke State fans. You couldn't have been better positioned given who you'd lost to.
I don't think that's a reasonable way to look at it. The 2 B1G teams in front of you still had to play each other, and one of them is going to be completely out of it after next weekend. Your biggest roadblock wasn't from the B1G teams, but rather Clemson. Barring a complete melt down, I don't see any argument for both Clemson and Louisville being in the 4 team playoff. You needed Clemson to lose and not be the ACC champ. Of course, it's all a moot point now anyhow.The comittee not moving the wolverines at all after losing to an unranked Iowa basically put their cards on the table, they would take 2 big ten teams before us, even if it had to be a two loss team, that's why
Herman is gone, Oliver will be as well
Sheesh. As an Alabama fan, I was kinda hoping Lamar Jackson and his game-breaking ability stayed far the hell away from the playoffs, but I'd hate to see this game cost him the Heisman. Dude's electric.
Also, this is my first post on GAF, so, hi everyone
There was a segment on the video screen at my local gas station with Scott Van Pelt stumping for Louisville because he wants teams in the playoff that face Alabama to be teams that actually have Quarterbacks.
Of the teams ahead of Louisville in the most recent poll, the only one I would deem lacking in a QB is Michigan (even with a healthy Wilson Speight).
Even if you extend it beyond the teams ahead of the Louisville, I think the only other two teams that could be lumped into this were Penn State and Wisconsin, and Wisconsin has shown that they don't really need top level QB play to win.
Frankly I don't think there is any QB in CFB good enough to beat this incarnation of Alabama without help.
From that chart, it looks more like Alabama is our only hope to stop Western Michigan's reign of terror.Western Michigan is our only hope to keep Alabama from another national title confirmed.
Herman is gone, Oliver will be as well
Herman maybe but it would honestly have to be a top tier school. Texas yes. LSU yes. Auburn yes. I can't think of any other schools he would leave for that will probably have a coaching job open. Notre Dame and Tennessee should be open but they won't be. Oliver isn't going anywhere.
So the comittee doesn't consider loses to unranked teams if your a traditional power, and you get credit for a game you haven't played yet? Why even bother with the appearance of a selection committee, just put bama, Ohio st as permanent 1 and 2 even if they have losing seasonsI don't think that's a reasonable way to look at it. The 2 B1G teams in front of you still had to play each other, and one of them is going to be completely out of it after next weekend. Your biggest roadblock wasn't from the B1G teams, but rather Clemson. Barring a complete melt down, I don't see any argument for both Clemson and Louisville being in the 4 team playoff. You needed Clemson to lose and not be the ACC champ. Of course, it's all a moot point now anyhow.
If LSU steals Jimbo we would accept Kissing Tom with open arms despite his dreadful past associations.
So the comittee doesn't consider loses to unranked teams if your a traditional power, and you get credit for a game you haven't played yet? Why even bother with the appearance of a selection committee, just put bama, Ohio st as permanent 1 and 2 even if they have losing seasons
The committee should have dropped Michigan after their loss. At least some. To have the same ranking after losing a game to a team you're favored by 24.5 points is inexcusable.
Losing to an unranked team should drop you no less then 3 spots, but the comittee picks their top 4 and forms the rest of the top 25 to justify it, so when 3 of their top 4 lost at the same time it became impossible to do so, so let's just not move 1, and swap #2 and 4Complaining about Michigan not dropping in a weekend where 2-4 all lost is honestly kinda stupid. Up to that point, there was enough of a cushion between the top 4 and everyone else in the country that it hardly mattered. They were ranked where they should've been; even with the loss, they had more top 25 wins than Louisville did, and anyone who'd been paying attention knew Louisville probably had another loss coming. Is what it is.
You can't drop anyone except the team that actually lost to a ranked opponent?You couldn't really drop anyone that wasn't Washington last week though. Can't have Clemson under Louisville. Sure, drop Michigan, but their resume was still better than y'all's. They've got good wins and blowout performances, while y'all were going to the wire with UVA and Duke.
This is all moot now, anyways, but no one had it out for Louisville. Their resume just didn't hold up.
*Unless you play in the B1G or ACC. UW had a better win than Louisville but that didn't matter.Well yeah. Everyone else had multiple top 25 wins. I think Washington had 1, and there were already doubts that their performance wasn't just a product of their schedule. *shrug*
I could see if Washington had made a game of it, but they were pretty definitively beat. I think if they win out, they have a great argument, but hey. Gotta win your games*.
This isn't about louisville, it's about how the comittee picks who they want and have zero accountability, the bcs would be a better system just go to 4 teams there. Obviously I want 8 team playoff but more then that after last week it's clear the rankings are nothing more then biased opinions that get to pick and choose what they publicly say are factors to justify their pucks that weekYou couldn't really drop anyone that wasn't Washington last week though. Can't have Clemson under Louisville. Sure, drop Michigan, but their resume was still better than y'all's. They've got good wins and blowout performances, while y'all were going to the wire with UVA and Duke.
This is all moot now, anyways, but no one had it out for Louisville. Their resume just didn't hold up.
*Unless you play in the B1G or ACC. UW had a better win than Louisville but that didn't matter.
There's two weeks left and a lot will happen, and if UW wins out they should be in, but... The playoff arguments are so stupid. There's no rhyme or reason or consistency to any of them. Which is what they want, since the only one that actually matters is the last one - the other ones are just media fodder.
If you (not you specifically, I'm speaking generally) want to argue this bullshit at least be consistent and not a complete homer. That's all I ask.
It's not about conferences. It's about saying you have to win your games in the same breath where you say Michigan losing shouldn't matter when it comes to rankings. It's lunacy.Y'all pick a different conference that's favored every season lol. I'm of a mind that the SEC typically has the most talent, and even I don't think you can argue the B1G was the best conference this year. (I think Louisville's FSU win was definitely better than Washington's Utah win anyways).
This is always going to happen, which is why expanding to 8 teams doesn't really make a lick of sense. We'll just start arguing about the number 7-10 teams. Year in and year out, there has never been a team in college football ranked 7-10 at the end of a season that had a legit claim to the title. I'd argue the same is true of teams 4-6 most years too.
But guys, just think of how high the TV ratings will be for the #2 and #3 teams playing each other!
Larger amounts of playoff berths would also allow for guaranteed berths for conference champions. In basketball, you know you're in if you win your conference. If you don't, you're leaving it up to a committee, which is your own fault for not playing better.I think the eventual sweet spot is 16 teams, but it will take forever to get there, 8 teams is the minimum where you are going to weigh teams from the power 5 more then other confrrences, you need atleast 3 at large spots for non p5 teams to possibly snag. If your the best team in college football 1 more game to win shouldn't be a deal breaker correct?
For the record, as I've said before, I think they should have kept the BCS system and expanded it to the top 4 teams. We've discussed this before, and I think there was a consensus that while there may have been arguments some years regarding who the top 2 teams were, most years there was a pretty bright line between 1-4 and the rest of the field.This isn't about louisville, it's about how the comittee picks who they want and have zero accountability, the bcs would be a better system just go to 4 teams there. Obviously I want 8 team playoff but more then that after last week it's clear the rankings are nothing more then biased opinions that get to pick and choose what they publicly say are factors to justify their pucks that week
The absolute only way the playoffs should expand beyond 4, is if you drop 2 games off the regular season. These are college kids playing, not professional athletes.I think the eventual sweet spot is 16 teams, but it will take forever to get there, 8 teams is the minimum where you are going to weigh teams from the power 5 more then other confrrences, you need atleast 3 at large spots for non p5 teams to possibly snag. If your the best team in college football 1 more game to win shouldn't be a deal breaker correct?
I think the eventual sweet spot is 16 teams, but it will take forever to get there, 8 teams is the minimum where you are going to weigh teams from the power 5 more then other confrrences, you need atleast 3 at large spots for non p5 teams to possibly snag. If your the best team in college football 1 more game to win shouldn't be a deal breaker correct?
The absolute only way the playoffs should expand beyond 4, is if you drop 2 games off the regular season. These are college kids playing, not professional athletes.
Eh the only thing is it frequently happens where teams trying to make a strong schedule are shut out or outright refused. Or given only extremely unfair terms to a series.Lol whet? This isn't about protecting traditional powers. Any Power 5 school (and some schools like Houston) can find their way in the playoffs if they schedule well enough and win their games. That's a flimsy argument, as is acting like player safety isn't a legitimate concern. There is absolutely no need to give the 8th ranked team a shot at a title.
Lol whet? This isn't about protecting traditional powers. Any Power 5 school (and some schools like Houston) can find their way in the playoffs if they schedule well enough and win their games. That's a flimsy argument, as is acting like player safety isn't a legitimate concern. There is absolutely no need to give the 8th ranked team a shot at a title.