College Football Week 3 - Badgers? We don't need no stinkin' Badgers!
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Just as spurious as deciding whether teams are good based on two games worth of experience: saying a conference is horrendous based on one weekend. It would be foolish to say that the Big Ten, for instance, was demonstrably horrid as a group after one weekend where all of the following happened:
It's one week in a very long season, but don't think Jim Delany is not at this instant crafting the most carefully worded full-page ad in the Birmingham News congratulating Alabama on their continued football success while also slyly mentioning the state's dismal high school dropout rates.
Just as spurious as deciding whether teams are good based on two games worth of experience: saying a conference is horrendous based on one weekend. It would be foolish to say that the Big Ten, for instance, was demonstrably horrid as a group after one weekend where all of the following happened:
- Iowa, failing to score the necessary 11 points Kirk Ferentz needs to win a football game, lost to in-state rivals Iowa State. Iowa State scored nine points, and Greg Davis is Iowa's offensive coordinator. No further explanation is necessary.
- Penn State lost to UVa, a school where some people still wear ties to football games when they do decide to actually attend football games.
- Indiana leveled UMass, but lost their starting QB to a gruesome leg fracture for the year.
- Michigan struggled with Air Force. Patriotic, yes. Disturbing, also yes.
- Nebraska lost to UCLA, which is disturbing, but not as disturbing as the 344 yards rushing the Huskers gave up on the ground
- Illinois lost 45-14 to Arizona State.
- Purdue lost to Notre Dame. (See earlier comments about "game-winning drive with Tommy Rees.")
It's one week in a very long season, but don't think Jim Delany is not at this instant crafting the most carefully worded full-page ad in the Birmingham News congratulating Alabama on their continued football success while also slyly mentioning the state's dismal high school dropout rates.
I'd aim for VT and NCSU as well. Get four schools at once.
$50 million to leave that conference? Lolz on that
Wonder how that turned out for him.
Haha I did see Franklin being a good sport about being beaten up all night, but that's pretty funny. He definitely took some shots, and it's a good thing he's not as small as some of the other spread QB's out there or he'd have been carted off to the locker room early in the game.
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He might be 5th in the voting like Honey Badger last year, if he's lucky. It's just so hard to get that if you're a defensive player, he'd have to have absolutely dominating stats all year and break several records.
Aaron Murray at UGA could potentially be in the running, but I don't honestly expect him to win as he will never put up stats in garbage time like Barkley. We run a lot more balanced offense and don't put in Murray to throw an easy touchdown, we generally give it to a running back. Lattimore could have a shot if he can stay healthy and start putting up dominating performances again. That's about it for the SEC. Everybody was talking about Arky's QB but with him being injured, he's probably out of it.
Too many mouths to feed. Adding two strong football schools to get to 12, add a CCG, and fulfilling the terms of the Champions Bowl is what the conference needs to aim for IMO.
VT and FSU would be ideal, I suppose.
GAF Pick'em Week 3
(THU) Rutgers @ South Florida by 10
Wake Forest @ Florida State by 21
California @ Ohio State by 14
Arkansas State @ Nebraska by 14
Louisiana-Monroe @ Auburn by 4
Virginia @ Georgia Tech by 7
Boston College @ Northwestern by 4
Navy @ Penn State by 10
Florida @ Tennessee by 7
Arizona State @ Missouri by 4
USC @ Stanford by 28
Notre Dame @ Michigan State by 4
Texas @ Ole Miss by 10
Colorado @ Fresno State by 17
BYU @ Utah by 7
I can't believe I'm picking Tennessee to win...
(THU) Rutgers @ South Florida by 10
Wake Forest @ Florida State by 21
California @ Ohio State by 14
Arkansas State @ Nebraska by 14
Louisiana-Monroe @ Auburn by 4
Virginia @ Georgia Tech by 7
Boston College @ Northwestern by 4
Navy @ Penn State by 10
Florida @ Tennessee by 7
Arizona State @ Missouri by 4
USC @ Stanford by 28
Notre Dame @ Michigan State by 4
Texas @ Ole Miss by 10
Colorado @ Fresno State by 17
BYU @ Utah by 7
I can't believe I'm picking Tennessee to win...
bucknuticus
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That is looking way too short term to me.... It seems inevitable that we are going to 4 super conferences (3 of which look to be set with the big10, pac12 and sec). The big12 and acc will fight for that final spot.... the acc getting nd is a big deal in making them look stronger (esp since both conferences "wanted" nd and the acc won).
Also curious if them joining will matter to the tv deal they just signed.
chaosblade
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I picked Tennessee because it's win-win.
If Tennessee wins, I get it right on the pick'em. If they lose, awesome, because Tennessee lost.
I don't say this often, but this week: Go Gata.
Affeinvasion
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From our cold dead hands (it may happen).
Also I feel bad for people in conferences. I can cheer for one team without that stupid idea of conference loyalty. Fuck everyone else. Also aside from the Kevin White/Charlie Weis years which were deplorable for their awful scheduling (playing all three service academies was a crime), we have always played a legitimate schedule (Name the teams in the country who have never played an FCS opponent). If anything, I would have preferred a move to the Big 12 but the ACC is apparently stronger in the Olympic sports (shrugs).
I should get my picks in before I forget.
GAF Pick'em Week 3
(THU) Rutgers @ South Florida by 7
Wake Forest @ Florida State by 21
California @ Ohio State by 14
Arkansas State @ Nebraska by 21
Louisiana-Monroe @ Auburn by 14
Virginia @ Georgia Tech by 10
Boston College @ Northwestern by 4
Navy @ Penn State by 4
Florida @ Tennessee by 4
Arizona State @ Missouri by 10
USC @ Stanford by 14
Notre Dame @ Michigan State by 4
Texas @ Ole Miss by 10
Colorado @ Fresno State by 14
BYU @ Utah by 4
I wish they could both lose. I'd hate to hear more instances of Tennessee fans saying "We're back!" like after they beat NC State, but I'd also like Florida to lose at any time possible.
GAF Pick'em Week 3
(THU) Rutgers @ South Florida by 7
Wake Forest @ Florida State by 21
California @ Ohio State by 14
Arkansas State @ Nebraska by 21
Louisiana-Monroe @ Auburn by 14
Virginia @ Georgia Tech by 10
Boston College @ Northwestern by 4
Navy @ Penn State by 4
Florida @ Tennessee by 4
Arizona State @ Missouri by 10
USC @ Stanford by 14
Notre Dame @ Michigan State by 4
Texas @ Ole Miss by 10
Colorado @ Fresno State by 14
BYU @ Utah by 4
chaosblade said:
I wish they could both lose. I'd hate to hear more instances of Tennessee fans saying "We're back!" like after they beat NC State, but I'd also like Florida to lose at any time possible.
Mac the KNife
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Your ULM and GT picks aren't bolded.
Fixed, thx
devildog820
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It's the first step in them losing their outsized vote in CFB matters. They'll still be able to keep marquee games (yes, I realize how dumb that statement is) at USC and Michigan.
chaosblade
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http://georgiasports.blogspot.com/2005/09/rooting-for-cataclysm-meteor-game.html
I love how Tenn-Florida is the game in the example too.
Yeah cause that is a lot different from Georiga fans acting like they are awesome yet the last time they beat anyone worth a damn was around the last time Tennessee was relevant.
Is it really any different than what they have going now? They're just replacing their non money maker sports divisions from the BEAST to the ACC. That's it, from what I understand. They still have a much easier ride to the national championship and more power over future changes to the BCS than any other school in the country.
Affeinvasion
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I love it. Though I read it with punctuation: Michigan State, The University.
THEandycapps said:
Really nothing is different. We will drop a couple of BIG opponents and Pitt and BC who we play often will both be ACC. I'm pretty sure they did this for basketball and the non-BCS bowl tie-ins. This move says more about the future of the Big East than it does about Notre Dame.
zyxwvu4321
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Michigan State, The University: The Movie: Official Game of the Movie.
It's not our fault that you guys and Florida sucked last year. We beat 2 ranked teams last year, even though they probably didn't deserve the rankings: Auburn and GA Tech.
chaosblade said:
That's amazing. Bookmarked for future reference as it's a fantastic explanation.
Pouring one out for my homie, ChiTown. Come back soon.
TheNatural
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Fuck Notre Dame, the Big East should have kicked them out years ago.
BertramCooper
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Well, we already have Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey.
GoldenEye 007
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Yeah, much better if it was done in 2003 or 2005.
And LOLACC if that home game requirement is true.
mre, do you have the link for this? I still remember your joke last week.
StrikerObi
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BertramCooper
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ACC or not, Notre Dame still isn't anywhere near relevance.
If FSU can't even reclaim their prominence in that conference, I sure as Hell don't think ND can do it.
If FSU can't even reclaim their prominence in that conference, I sure as Hell don't think ND can do it.
Affeinvasion
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You can almost tell conference affiliation by who falls for mre's jokes.
TheNatural
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Lets be honest here.
They wanted to see how many white guys they could put on the floor at one time in a Notre Dame vs. Duke bball matchup.
Slam dunk contest on 9 foot goals baby.
ConfusingJazz
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Yeah, but fuck it, BOOO ND SUCKS! GO BACK TO THE 19TH CENTURY!
This is what happens when you try to join the 21st century: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6mE9Au3CwM
Am I a bad person for wishing the Big 12 would have added them?
It's mainly because now the odds of the Big 12 adding FSU and ACC School X are slim.
I also would have greatly enjoyed beating ND's ass in Stillwater.
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ConfusingJazz
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Fuck em, I wish we would have got FSU and Clemson instead. Besides, where would ND go after that?
BertramCooper
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I really don't see what the ACC gets out of this, besides getting to say that they have Notre Dame in every sport except the only one that really matters.
I'm saying that ND's addition (plus more TV money and a higher exit fee) now make it very unlikely that we can add any ACC schools.
We would have almost had to take on ND just to keep the ACC from getting them.
And yes, it continually blows my mind that such a mediocre football program holds so much sway over the politics of college football.
They wouldn't lose FSU/Clemson which is pretty big, and they're in a flexible spot for expansion.
TheNatural
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I wonder if ACC is going to add another team, at least in the other sports, to go to 16. Maybe they'll try to get Nova or GTown or something now.
I don't think Nova/Gtown would go like that, the non football playing Catholic schools are too unified.
yellowjacket25
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- Helps stop realignment talks.
- Adds high profile football game to schedule of 5 teams a year.
- Adds a quality team to the conference in many sports.
- Gives the ACC the inside track on getting ND as a full member eventually.
- Potential contract increases.
ConfusingJazz
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If we would have stolen FSU and Clemson in the summer, no way ND joins the ACC. ND wasn't going to stay in the Big East either. They hate the B1G.
I think not expanding was short sighted.
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