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COMICS!!! |OT| April 2017 - Now Featuring Superstar Artist Brett Booth - APRIL FOALS!
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whatsinaname
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-_- That's a shame considering the cliffhanger they ended it on.
Also, I looked at a few reviews online and people are annoyed because it isn't funny? I got a Hitchcock type social thriller vibe from it, wasn't that what the creators were aiming for?
Best off forgetting about this book
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Are you sure you've finished literally all the rest of your comics? Backlog is gone? All of it? Nothing left to read?
You're SURE?
Remender that shit. Man that was fuckin freaky
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Just saw Big Bang tweet about Nick Fury #1 totally biffing. 10% sold. Marvel label is really the kiss of death these days, yeesh.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Read through Pretty Deadly vol 1 this evening. I read this a few years back when it came out but the copy was nabbed by a family member and honestly I remember very little about that one read through and what I do remember was being confused. Thankfully I didn't feel that way this time around. I really love the mythology DeConnick thought up, I love the way she slowly pulls back the layers on it and delivers twist after twist as the characters' journeys unfold, and I love the way Rios presents it. Big props to Bellaire too, for every mind bending spread and tense fight scene Rios provides, the colours make them sing and make them easy to understand and follow. Excited to see how the second volume is, especially given the implications that the resolution of the framing device of the book present. The only annoying part is the resolution at the end is just a little too quick, and
gets a bit of a short shrift. There's some other stuff kept for the next book, but just a bit more on that specific character would have been good.
I find it hard to feel too bad, Im really not into Robinson but Aco is delivering career defining work if the previews are anything to go by. It's a shame in that regard. Did anyone see the preview for #2 with the ghost samurai? Amazing. Think it was in Alonso's twitter. I would kill for an old Nick Fury book by Aaron or something too.
Ginny
I find it hard to feel too bad, Im really not into Robinson but Aco is delivering career defining work if the previews are anything to go by. It's a shame in that regard. Did anyone see the preview for #2 with the ghost samurai? Amazing. Think it was in Alonso's twitter. I would kill for an old Nick Fury book by Aaron or something too.
Based on what I've read:
ASM Renew Your Vows
Jessica Jones
Unworthy Thor
Nova
Thanos
Ultimates^2 continues the story of the original and is starting to ramp up it seems.
I haven't read enough of other stuff like the Iron Man books to comment on them.
A lot of the good Marvel stuff since Nova have been the books that started during ANAD.
They went big on that book for some strange reason. I don't get the logic behind it.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I didn't care much for the art in the first arc at all. Rios' layouts were a huge pain in the ass to follow and Bellaire's colors were as bland and boring as I've ever seen them. That said I thought both ladies stepped up their games tremendously in the second arc.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Oh shit, really? I couldn't disagree more, but hey, that's art dude. All in the eye of the beholder. Glad you enjoyed the second volume though, I have that here (does that mean I should be worried then though?? Haha)
Freezasaurus
Member
Really? Thanos is good? Hmmm....
echoshifting
Banned
This book is fucking great. This is one you have to check out. Introduce yourself to Donny Cates, future savior of one of the big two. Dude is a star.
Yep it is surprisingly good.
Lemire is killing it at Marvel right now. Losing him is gonna be yet another painful blow to their talent pool.
Marvel: hire Cates before it's too late.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
I guess it was more techno samurai than ghost:
Robinson said that he asked Marvel for the book because no writer was using the character. People don't really care about Fury Jr. Apparently he's delivering, and I don't think the book should exist, but Robinson needs a new sandbox I guess.
Bro, you're flying through those Image trades!
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Haha one volume a night man, that's the golden rule, no more and no less. I think I've read a new trade each night for maybe a solid month now (and perhaps wrote a bit in here for each one too)! I'll run out eventually
#doievenread
Freezasaurus
Member
Same. I mean, he works best in bit parts. Like the portions of Hickman's Secret Warriors book that focused on him. His character is basically a cliché, so it's hard to build an interesting story out of that.
MHWilliams
Member
I honestly find that certain Marvel character just have a limited shelf life or are better as recurring characters in other books.
Nick Fury, either version, is one of them.
Death Vigil? Please
Kelly Thompson said:
Fuck. This is probably Hawkeye related
It's my favourite book just now.
Surprisingly yes.
Freezasaurus
Member
Maybe I'll check it out. I've been looking for something decent with Thanos in it.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Last night I realized I like the individual issues of All Star Batman but as a whole I keep thinking "Enough already." Felt that way at the end of Vol 1 and felt that way after reading #9 last night. The Duke stuff makes my eyes glaze over too, which probably doesn't help.
Checked my upcoming pull list on the Marvel side. Nothing for me this week there. I'm too behind on Thor to pick up Mighty. Might be the smallest week I've had in months.
Manmademan
Member
There's really no reason "Nick Fury" couldn't work while two captain americas, punisher, hawkeye, daredevil, two wolverines, or any of the other barely above street level characters with books right now can carry an ongoing.
I can't think of the last time anyone really put much effort into either Fury that wasn't some 1970s relic, outside of Original Sin which was just...weird.
I picked up the current book and it's solid. The art is a bit confusing, but damned if it isn't impressive.
flaxknuckles
Member
Has Snyder laid out what Duke is supposed to be yet other than a glorified Robin?
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Death Vigil? Please
Fuck. This is probably Hawkeye related
Hey, Shutter was a you guys recommendation. I bought that! I actually don't know anything about Death Vigil, just Sunstone as far as Sejic goes.
Wouldn't be surprised if Hulk goes soon if Hawkeye is done. Probably a deck clearing exercise for Legacy. They said no character deaths, nothing about book deaths.
Nick snr was handled really well through the mid to late naughts. Bendis, Bru and Hickman had a bunch of great stuff between new avengers/secret invasion build, Cap and Secret Warriors. No problem with what Aaron did if it had been followed up on oppose to the editorial getting rid of him that it was. Saying Fury doesn't work is saying Spy fiction doesn't work; it just takes the right writer (and artists).
MHWilliams
Member
Never said the characters couldn't work. Merely that straight up take of either has a limited shelf life. You need to get mad weird for a Nick Fury book to work. Ellis, Kot, maybe even Lemire might be able to hit it.
Even then, I'd say it'd be better as a mini-series, not an ongoing.
Manmademan
Member
well...you know my opinion. Everything Marvel does that isn't Spiderman or Deadpool is a mini series that WILL end around 20-30 issues...if it's popular. 6 to 15 if it aint.
as to your explanation- I agree with O.G. Nick Fury, because nothing about that character made much sense, his backstory was impossible to follow, his rogues gallery was inexplicably terrible, and he had been misused for years- showing up to growl a few lines, drop a deus ex machina in the middle of a storyline, then disappear into a safehouse or fake death for another few years until Marvel remembered to dust him off again.
He wasn't really salvageable as a modern era character, imho.
Fury2/Ultimate Fury is a different ball of wax though. That character is almost a complete blank slate. Most people assume he's the same as MCU fury which isn't entirely correct but isn't entirely incorrect either.
You could do anything you wanted with that guy because continuity doesn't hold him back to the same degree. 60s/70s themed Spy fiction, man on the wall bullshit, jason borne or craig bond esque espionage...or just playing around with the marvel D list villain roster for a while.
Manmademan
Member
how do you know it isn't?
MHWilliams
Member
I don't disagree with that at all.
It might as well be. The difference between a low-selling ongoing and a mini is immaterial.
Fuck. This is probably Hawkeye related
Marvel:
We gave Kate a shot, below 20K, GOTTA BRING BACK CLINT!
And what a shock, Fury bomba. Same week as Secret Empire took over the attention.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
You should be fine since I still dropped the title despite the improvement in the art.
Welp this is a good point too.
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
Everything's a mini when it gets cancelled in 5 issues.
I would be shocked if Kate and wasp solos make it past next JanuaryMarvel:
We gave Kate a shot, below 20K, GOTTA BRING BACK CLINT!
And what a shock, Fury bomba. Same week as Secret Empire took over the attention.
Freezasaurus
Member
I think Marvel is just so used to doing huge numbers that anything below that doesn't register and they consider it a failure. They end up replacing "underperforming" books with new titles that are basically being set up to "fail" in the same way.
Manmademan
Member
Right. this isn't the old days when an ongoing would just vanish from shelves mid-storyline leaving plot lines unresolved and cliffhangers everywhere.
It's obvious when a book has been cut off at the knees (Ghost Rider) but a lot of these books seem to be planned around the possibility of mid-run cancellation and have no problem wrapping up in 6 or 12 issues if things aren't going all that well.
But even that aside, Marvel has launched some books labeled as ongoings that clearly were extremely unlikely to make it past a handful of issues. Slapstick, Solo, Great Lakes Avengers and Foolkiller come to mind here.
Those were miniseries, i don't care what anybody says.
8 issues in vol 1 (vol 2 OGN coming later this year or start of next) take the lovable characters of Sunstone remove the sex but replace it with monster slaying. Great family moments and characters. I've never had anyone say they didn't enjoy it. It has Sejics silly sense of humour.
I love Bernie the grim reaper.
flaxknuckles
Member
So I just saw that X-O Manowar relaunch sold 60k.......HOW
echoshifting
Banned
Overshipping is really handy when you want to create the impression that your book nosedived
Freezasaurus
Member
I can only speak for myself, but I've had an interest in XO for sometime. The recent series was already like 45 issues in by then, so fuck that. The relaunch just became the perfect jumping-on point. Also, the book is legit good.
flaxknuckles
Member
Man I really want to buy it and Harbinger Renegade but I never read Manowar's first run or any of the Harbinger related books like Imperium since the first series. I'm thinking of catching up with comicblitz since Valiant just threw all their old stuff on there.
The art in the new XO looks gorgeous.
Woah that is kinda low considering so much hype for Kate getting her solo book.
I haven't looked at sales for the past 3 months so I have no idea what is hot
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