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COMICS! |OT| February 2016. World of love and strangeness and charm.
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That is just gorgeous. I want that, dammit!
Join the party man. A good part of why i got this was to read it without that awful new color job.
Freezasaurus
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whatsinaname
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Damn, that looks awesome.
Speaking of artist editions, Usagi Yojimbo Gallery Edition v2 showed up on Amazon listings recently.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1616559241/?tag=neogaf0e-20
huge Usagi fan but gallery would be overkill to my Usagi collection
Yeah, I have the colored version. I think the new colors look really good, but I'm a huge fan of the black and white work. If I ever have some extra spending money, I'll pick up this version.
whatsinaname
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BKatastrophe
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I'm okay with never really experiencing the brony life. My friend is. Or was. Tried to convince me that the series was just like Avatar: The Last Airbender.
Naturally I refused to believe him, though admittedly the comparison piqued my interest.
Still haven't watched it, though. Probably never will.
Naturally I refused to believe him, though admittedly the comparison piqued my interest.
Still haven't watched it, though. Probably never will.
Freezasaurus
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Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I prefer Pretty Pretty Pegasus to Ponies. All hail Princess Sparkleface!
Freezasaurus
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I've seen a few episodes of MLP, it's a pretty good kids show. But I can't watch more than two in a row. The colors will burn your eyes.
Looks so big, and already don't have room on the shelves.
isn't just already printed work enlarged?
ponies are extremely bad and the number of ponies in the last two pages is too damn high
if it's like the IDW books it's the original artwork scanned
if it's like the IDW books it's the original artwork scanned
whatsinaname
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Yeah. But not exactly "enlarged". This was the original size Sakai drew. LIke frye said, they are scans of his original artwork. You see a lot more detail.
that is awesome, but I will pass on them.
Freezasaurus
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Messi, you're forgetting that there's an MLP comic from IDW. THIS IS RELEVANT DISCUSSION.
Trump lost Iowa
I've pretended to like Trump for so long now that i don't know what's real anymore. Also, I read Groot #3 on MU, the issue where he teams up with Dawn and Surfer. I'm still liking the book and its slight silliness, i appreciated Dawn talking about Surfer "surferizing" as i am not a fan of Slott's style in the main Surfer book which often feels stilted.
whatsinaname
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I only started reading it last year. Finished the box set and the first two saga collections. Trying to read them as slowly as I can.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
That digital Supergirl comic is cute. Love Bengal's art.
edit: why are there like 10 different My Little Pony pics/gifs in the past two pages
edit: why are there like 10 different My Little Pony pics/gifs in the past two pages
BKatastrophe
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X-Force by Yost and Kyle: The Complete Collection Vol. 1
So, this is far, FAR more brutal and bloody than I thought it would be. I knew it was a dark book. It's why I picked it up. Good god though, this...this goes places. Not only that, this is the worst X-team ever. Not in the sense of writing, but in the sense of the actual characters. Logan is a shit leader who can't control anyone; Laura is completely cold and detached, and is constantly focused more on the efficiency and the kill over anything; Warren and Wolfsbane are both complete wildcards (Warren because of Archangel and Wolfsbane because of the brainwashing she suffered earlier); Warpath is in it for revenge, but constantly has moral conflicts that cause him to hesitate. However, the team slowly merges together with the addition of Elixir. He's the one character that Laura connects with, which keeps her from being the cold, programmed X-23. Domino also adds a nice bit of levity to the group, but Vanisher is also a rogue element, remaining on the team strictly via blackmail.
On another note, the book heavily deals with every character hoisting a heavy duality in some form or another. Logan has to balance between being the kill-hungry berserker or the X-Man who has to lead by example. Laura has to effectively find her humanity, even though it's much easier to go back into being a cold, programmed killer. In fact at some point, her solution to deal with everyone is to kill them. Warren's struggle is the most blatant, visually, since he has to combat the resurgence of his Archangel persona. Death, as it were, wants to constantly take over and kill and kill. Warren's struggle to control this is less moral, and far more physical and mental. Rahne also has the most blatant tightrope to walk, as the control over her animalistic side becomes considerably more difficult due to the brainwashing she suffered at the hands of her own father. Not only struggling with herself as a "demon" and a "beast," but also as a human girl who just feels so goddamned lonely and lost. Warpath's conflict is more of a classical "good guy entering a dark world and trying not to lose himself." He also struggles with the gritty realism of the world around him, and the spirituality of his culture and heritage. Elixir is the most well-adjusted of the characters, in that he's completely aware of what needs to be done and is willing to do it. Though, he also struggles with it, realizing that he's not only required to heal, but also to kill; an aspect of his powers he is not a fan of.
Domino and Vanisher...eh. They don't really show much. Vanisher is being blackmailed and Domino, though she questions the motivations of the group, she completely goes along with it. Cyclops is also a recurring character who definitely has to walk a very, VERY unstable bridge that is the embodiment of, "Do the ends justify the means?" Even the Stepford Cuckoos are a bit uncomfortable with the operations once they full realize what they're involved in. All in all, the book does a fantastic job of developing these characters, which is all that a person can really ask for in a team book, especially an X-book.
Now for the plot: This book honestly has a really good story: stopping the Purifiers. The Purifiers have always been in the darker section of the X-mythos. To have a dark X-book use them for the primary plot driver makes sense. Making Bastion some religious figure just plain works. On the other hand, this book also feels a lot like a successor to every New Mutants book. I feel left out, in that regard, because I've never read any New Mutants. In fact, the only real experience I have with them is via certain X-books as minor characters, or "Rachel and Miles X-Plain the X-Men." Stuff like Rahne's storyline, the Technocracy (which is derived from something related to Warlock, I think), the Demon Bear, X-23's character arc, etc.
Another plot thread to touch on, is the Selene story, which I'm aware ends with Necrosha. Necrosha, which I have not read, but have come to understand is a highly disliked story. Regardless, I'm intrigued. Starting the story on some Fullmetal Alchemist "Turn this city into a transmutation circle" bullshit is something I'm okay with. Not only that, the plot so far interweaves so well with the resurgence of anti-mutant violence...it just works so well right now. Up next is the Messiah War, so we'll see how that plays out.
Superficially, Yost and Kyle's dialogue works, but it's a bit repetitive. A lot of Logan swearing constantly. It's not a dealbreaker, but the abundance of it burdens the dialogue with a monotony that is never a good thing. Crain's art is also just not very good. Servicable. At all points the art is serviceable, except for the Palo/Loughridge combo on "Ain't No Dog," which is awesome. The reason why I say "serviceable" is because, the character designs and anatomy kind of suck for the most part, but they are distinct enough that the characters can be set apart and the anatomy is consistent enough so that the characters retain the aforementioned design The fights don't feel super kinetic, but kinetic enough to the point where they're still enjoyable. This book is also insanely gory, which can be make more break for most. The colors that the book uses are perfect, however, so I suppose it's how things are drawn as opposed to how it's colored.
All in all: I liked it quite a bit.
So, this is far, FAR more brutal and bloody than I thought it would be. I knew it was a dark book. It's why I picked it up. Good god though, this...this goes places. Not only that, this is the worst X-team ever. Not in the sense of writing, but in the sense of the actual characters. Logan is a shit leader who can't control anyone; Laura is completely cold and detached, and is constantly focused more on the efficiency and the kill over anything; Warren and Wolfsbane are both complete wildcards (Warren because of Archangel and Wolfsbane because of the brainwashing she suffered earlier); Warpath is in it for revenge, but constantly has moral conflicts that cause him to hesitate. However, the team slowly merges together with the addition of Elixir. He's the one character that Laura connects with, which keeps her from being the cold, programmed X-23. Domino also adds a nice bit of levity to the group, but Vanisher is also a rogue element, remaining on the team strictly via blackmail.
On another note, the book heavily deals with every character hoisting a heavy duality in some form or another. Logan has to balance between being the kill-hungry berserker or the X-Man who has to lead by example. Laura has to effectively find her humanity, even though it's much easier to go back into being a cold, programmed killer. In fact at some point, her solution to deal with everyone is to kill them. Warren's struggle is the most blatant, visually, since he has to combat the resurgence of his Archangel persona. Death, as it were, wants to constantly take over and kill and kill. Warren's struggle to control this is less moral, and far more physical and mental. Rahne also has the most blatant tightrope to walk, as the control over her animalistic side becomes considerably more difficult due to the brainwashing she suffered at the hands of her own father. Not only struggling with herself as a "demon" and a "beast," but also as a human girl who just feels so goddamned lonely and lost. Warpath's conflict is more of a classical "good guy entering a dark world and trying not to lose himself." He also struggles with the gritty realism of the world around him, and the spirituality of his culture and heritage. Elixir is the most well-adjusted of the characters, in that he's completely aware of what needs to be done and is willing to do it. Though, he also struggles with it, realizing that he's not only required to heal, but also to kill; an aspect of his powers he is not a fan of.
Domino and Vanisher...eh. They don't really show much. Vanisher is being blackmailed and Domino, though she questions the motivations of the group, she completely goes along with it. Cyclops is also a recurring character who definitely has to walk a very, VERY unstable bridge that is the embodiment of, "Do the ends justify the means?" Even the Stepford Cuckoos are a bit uncomfortable with the operations once they full realize what they're involved in. All in all, the book does a fantastic job of developing these characters, which is all that a person can really ask for in a team book, especially an X-book.
Now for the plot: This book honestly has a really good story: stopping the Purifiers. The Purifiers have always been in the darker section of the X-mythos. To have a dark X-book use them for the primary plot driver makes sense. Making Bastion some religious figure just plain works. On the other hand, this book also feels a lot like a successor to every New Mutants book. I feel left out, in that regard, because I've never read any New Mutants. In fact, the only real experience I have with them is via certain X-books as minor characters, or "Rachel and Miles X-Plain the X-Men." Stuff like Rahne's storyline, the Technocracy (which is derived from something related to Warlock, I think), the Demon Bear, X-23's character arc, etc.
Another plot thread to touch on, is the Selene story, which I'm aware ends with Necrosha. Necrosha, which I have not read, but have come to understand is a highly disliked story. Regardless, I'm intrigued. Starting the story on some Fullmetal Alchemist "Turn this city into a transmutation circle" bullshit is something I'm okay with. Not only that, the plot so far interweaves so well with the resurgence of anti-mutant violence...it just works so well right now. Up next is the Messiah War, so we'll see how that plays out.
Superficially, Yost and Kyle's dialogue works, but it's a bit repetitive. A lot of Logan swearing constantly. It's not a dealbreaker, but the abundance of it burdens the dialogue with a monotony that is never a good thing. Crain's art is also just not very good. Servicable. At all points the art is serviceable, except for the Palo/Loughridge combo on "Ain't No Dog," which is awesome. The reason why I say "serviceable" is because, the character designs and anatomy kind of suck for the most part, but they are distinct enough that the characters can be set apart and the anatomy is consistent enough so that the characters retain the aforementioned design The fights don't feel super kinetic, but kinetic enough to the point where they're still enjoyable. This book is also insanely gory, which can be make more break for most. The colors that the book uses are perfect, however, so I suppose it's how things are drawn as opposed to how it's colored.
All in all: I liked it quite a bit.
I started in 2012 but I waited for the saga collections to come out to catch back up. I am still on the third saga volume
Freezasaurus
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Wow, great post BK.
I hope you don't expect any more out of us than pony gifs, though.
Time is a circle.
I'm sure the pony discussion will go away if we keep talking about it.
Serpentine
Banned
you're the boss of this place now, control your people
but yeah what the fuck guys
Freezasaurus
Member
Do you want the anime gifs back?
STEVEN UNIVERSE GIFS!
Freezasaurus
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Wasn't that basically the premise of Thunderbolts, too? Or are these guys just assholes and not villains?
BKatastrophe
Member
The Squadron Supreme is a group of heroes.
I dont think they are heroic. They all come across as angry bitter people looking for revenge.
They're heroes that follow their own brand of justice and getting revenge is part of that.
So are they gonna try murder the rest of the people responsible for blowing up their world's?
Freezasaurus
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The first part of your statement seems to contrdict the second part.
Nah.
You don't get to say that when one of them just kicked around Namor's head after decapitating him.
Not really. They simply saw Namor for example as a villian for his actions and took him down.
Certain members on the team really hated him and felt he deserved it. It's explained in the third issue that
they have given up on acting within the law after their worlds were destroyed and the team's mission is to protect their new home at all costs.
