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[BKatastrophe]

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Black Widow being crammed into the refrigerator was the worst moment of this issue.

The entire event's ending is explained in one fell swoop in this issue:

Spoiler

Steve Rogers fighting Red Skull is inside his own head. His original personality fighting his new programming. And Frank already revealed Steve's plan to bring everyone back. And we have it reinforced that Ulysses' predictions still mean nothing. And why can't they use America to get back inside the shield? Was that ever covered?

Steve will break his programming and revert everything, fixing everything he did. Negating Spencer's run completely.

 

[Captain Skeleton]

Akira! Been wanting to own the whole series for years now but hadn't since they're real expensive when you get them new. Got them real cheap from EBay in a great condition.

Also, I may or may not have ran out of shelf space, and had to use my TV stand to put it. If only there was a way to read comics on an iPad! Oh well.

I beasted through the last 3 volumes when i was reading it for the first time one afternoon.

 

[RedHoodedOwl]

Is it bad that the more hate Secret Empire gets, the more I actually want to read it?

Aside from the recent issue, I don't have a problem with the entire event.

 

[LordOfLore]

This explains why Marvel said they wouldn't have any events for at least 18 months

full offense this is my worst nightmare as a retailer AND as a reader

 

[Freezasaurus]

"No more events!"

"JUST KIDDING NOW THEY ARE ALL EVENTS!"

 

[Einchy]

"No more events!"

"JUST KIDDING NOW THEY ARE ALL EVENTS!"

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

This explains why Marvel said they wouldn't have any events for at least 18 months

 

[LordOfLore]

They probably shouldn't use the word "events" in any marketing. It's seen as a bad word coming from them now.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Who is in charge of Marketing at Marvel?

 

[dh4niel]

I bailed after Secret Empire #2, so I have no idea what anyone is talking about. And I couldn't be happier about that.

No, you have to read it with the rest of us. Share our pain!

 

[mreddie]

Isn't that what DC is doing now? But calling them events, not a good idea.

Who is in charge of Marketing at Marvel?

2 of them jumped ship already.

 

[Einchy]

They probably shouldn't use the word "events" in any marketing. It's seen as a bad word coming from them now.

Currently at Marvel: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=synonyms+for+event

 

[LordOfLore]

2 of them jumped ship already.

Man, I had forgotten that.

 

[Freezasaurus]

No, you have to read it with the rest of us. Share our pain!

No way, I have good comics to read.

 

[Messi]

I commissioned Brett Parson of Tank Girl fame to draw me D.Va

 

[MHWilliams]

The entire event's ending is explained in one fell swoop in this issue:

Spoiler

Steve Rogers fighting Red Skull is inside his own head. His original personality fighting his new programming. And Frank already revealed Steve's plan to bring everyone back. And we have it reinforced that Ulysses' predictions still mean nothing. And why can't they use America to get back inside the shield? Was that ever covered?

Steve will break his programming and revert everything, fixing everything he did. Negating Spencer's run completely.

Said this back when HydraCap was first announced. Unsurprised.

 

[Sandfox]

This explains why Marvel said they wouldn't have any events for at least 18 months

More material saying dozens of heroes and villains will be returning. What notable villains are dead?

 

[jackdoe]

This explains why Marvel said they wouldn't have any events for at least 18 months

I'm hoping they mean in the vein of Morrison's JLA, where the series had epic, event level arcs that were self contained within the series.

 

[LordOfLore]

I commissioned Brett Parson of Tank Girl fame to draw me D.Va

Lovely~

More material saying dozens of heroes and villains will be returning. What notable villains are dead?

Most of the Black Order? Red Skull? Apocalypse? Killmonger?

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Have characters in the Marvel Universe shown problems remembering things that happened before the final Incursion?

 

[VanWinkle]

I commissioned Brett Parson of Tank Girl fame to draw me D.Va

Man, that is just some beautiful line work.

 

[echoshifting]

I don't think that really means anything but the choice of words there...woof. Event is a bad word now.

What happened to Apocalypse anyway? Last time I saw him he was locked in the basement of the mansion (Extraordinary X-Men). Did anything happen to him after that or did they just drop it

 

[bronson]

Man, it's become really tough to scour comics sites for worthwhile new titles these days.

I've fallen way behind comics in the last six months -- are there any standout titles that started this year? Capes/non-capes, whatever.

 

[echoshifting]

Man, it's become really tough to scour comics sites for worthwhile new titles these days.

I've fallen way behind comics in the last six months -- are there any standout titles that started this year? Capes/non-capes, whatever.

All-New Guardians
Astonishing X-Men
Black Bolt
Bug!
Defenders
Extremity
Jean Grey
Motor Girl
Redneck
Rock Candy Mountain
Shirtless Bear-Fighter!
The Wild Storm

All started in the last 6-7 months, all excellent books

Edit: if you want something recent and complete, please read God Country

 

[Brian Fellows]

how do you not like Hollingsworth

What can I say? I hated his work on Wytches and I feel like he's holding back Opena and Harren on Seven to Eternity. I've also always hated the color palette of those Hawkeye books. Now I know why.

You have to be the only person on the entire earth who can't stand the art.

Maybe but in the end my opinion of art is the only one that matters to me.

All-New Guardians
Astonishing X-Men
Black Bolt
Bug!
Defenders
Extremity
Jean Grey
Motor Girl
Redneck
Rock Candy Mountain
Shirtless Bear-Fighter!
The Wild Storm

All started in the last 6-7 months, all excellent books

Edit: if you want something recent and complete, please read God Country

Excellent list.

Let me just add Old Guard by Rucka and Spencer & Locke from Aftershock.

 

[Messi]

You have to be the only person on the entire earth who can't stand the art.

I don't like it either

 

[Tizoc]

So remind me if the DC Nation Super Best Friends Forever is getting remade into an animated series?
Cuz I'm rewatching the shorts on YT and my god those 3 need a series of their own.

 

[Freezasaurus]

So remind me if the DC Nation Super Best Friends Forever is getting remade into an animated series?
Cuz I'm rewatching the shorts on YT and my god those 3 need a series of their own.

Not that I've heard. They have DC Superhero Girls to fill that void.

 

[bronson]

All-New Guardians
Astonishing X-Men
Black Bolt
Bug!
Defenders
Extremity
Jean Grey
Motor Girl
Redneck
Rock Candy Mountain
Shirtless Bear-Fighter!
The Wild Storm

All started in the last 6-7 months, all excellent books

Edit: if you want something recent and complete, please read God Country

Thanks for this!

 

[Sandfox]

Today my plan is to catch up on Wild Storm and Doom Patrol. I'll probably share my thought tomorrow.

Also, Bleedingcool is running a rumor about the thing that's supposed to be coming after Legacy:

A month ago, Bleeding Cool reported a number of aspects about Marvel Legacy that proved to be true, such as the renumbering and how the Generations books would spin out of Secret Empire but would stand as perennial one shots. But we also stated that Marvel Legacy wasn't the destination, but the journey; that it would be a stopgap ahead of the big relaunch in 2018. That is when we would get Ta-Nehisi Coates on Black Panther, Nick Spencer on Amazing Spider-Man, Jason Aaron and Esad Ribic on Avengers...

Today I got a little more backup, describing Marvel Legacy as just a temporary bridge between Secret Empire and The Next Big Thing — whatever that is.

And as for artists that move the needle, one who Bleeding Cool have tapped for greatness, Pepe Larraz drawing a maxi-series that will open the gates for this Next Big Thing, with big names returning to Marvel in the main series, with more creative freedom and an event-less and crossover-less new status quo for at least one year...

Also, Bryan Hitch is also hyping up on twitter that he might be doing a JSA book after Justice League and he would "Ultimates the shit out of it"

 

[Poodlestrike]

Today my plan is to catch up on Wild Storm and Doom Patrol. I'll probably share my thought tomorrow.

Also, Bleedingcool is running a rumor about the thing that's supposed to be coming after Legacy:


Also, Bryan Hitch is also hyping up on twitter that he might be doing a JSA book after Justice League and he would "Ultimates the shit out of it"

God I hope they deny that pitch. Hitch can't write for BEANS.

There's a reason we threaten each other on the podcast with picking JL.

 

[BKatastrophe]

I don't think that really means anything but the choice of words there...woof. Event is a bad word now.

What happened to Apocalypse anyway? Last time I saw him he was locked in the basement of the mansion (Extraordinary X-Men). Did anything happen to him after that or did they just drop it

Kurt killed him right at the end, when Sapna was invading Limbo to destroy all of them.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Said this back when HydraCap was first announced. Unsurprised.

I figured something would come out of it. Like Steve would break the control and die while fixing what he caused.

But no. Much like CW2, nothing that happened will have any true ramifications.

 

[echoshifting]

Thanks for this!

I hope you find something you like in there

Kurt killed him right at the end, when Sapna was invading Limbo to destroy all of them.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Thanks BK

 

[Sandfox]

I figured something would come out of it. Like Steve would break the control and die while fixing what he caused.

But no. Much like CW2, nothing that happened will have any true ramifications.

Steve has been out of commission enough this decade so I wouldn't want it to end with him dying. We haven't had a normal Steve book in a while.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

That last panel will not survive Crop And Zoom.

Dear lord.

 

[Freezasaurus]

I'm not expecting much out of caveman Avengers, but the idea is too captivating to me not to buy it.

 

[echoshifting]

I'm not expecting much out of caveman Avengers, but the idea is too captivating to me not to buy it.

This is where I'm at, too

 

[Einchy]

Jason Aaron and Esad Ribic on Avengers

I can't wait for Esad Ribic to stick around for one arc and then bounce.

 

[VanWinkle]

Also, Bryan Hitch is also hyping up on twitter that he might be doing a JSA book after Justice League and he would "Ultimates the shit out of it"

Please no

PLEASE NO

 

[Freezasaurus]

It's okay, no one reads Justice League anyway.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Please no

PLEASE NO

We do live in the darkest timeline.

It's probably happening.

 

[VanWinkle]

It's okay, no one reads Justice League anyway.

JSA, not Justice League. I would be incredibly sad if Hitch took up writing duties on that book. If he does art, fine, but please not writing.

We do live in the darkest timeline.

It's probably happening.

If Didio has been saying all this time that he's just waiting on the right creative team, and it ends up being Hitch writing, I will be devastated.

 

[Freezasaurus]

JSA, not Justice League. I would be incredibly sad if Hitch took up writing duties on that book. If he does art, fine, but please not writing.

I know. I stopped reading JSA after four or five issues.

 

[Messi]

I can't wait for Esad Ribic to stick around for one arc and then bounce.

Didn't he do 12 with Aaron on Thor and then came back for a bit?

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

That would be a terrible idea.

 

[Sandfox]

I really want to Hitch's pitch without the book actually happening.

Larraz on a maxi-series potentially working with Aaron before his Avengers run starts would would be really good.

 

[Einchy]

Didn't he do 12 with Aaron on Thor and then came back for a bit?

Yeah but I will never forgive him for it.

 

[echoshifting]

It's okay, no one reads Justice League anyway.

.

Knock yourselves out DC

 

[Ross61]

It's okay, no one reads Justice League anyway.

Here.

JL still one of DC's top sellers somehow.