It's already been posted. I hate the focus is on privilege rather than applauding the restraint. It's as though people would be happier if the roided out white dude were dead for equality's sake. The video common posted stopped before it even got to the worst part. The cop should have escalated his force for sure after a point but you can't criticize the very behaviour we'd like to see more often just because it's being used on a white guy.
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Cops claim black man advanced on them with knife. Vid shows them shooting him in back
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The whole point is, if that guy were black it would have played out entirely different. Which is 100 percent undeniable.
Cops don't get a pat on the back for managing not to gun someone down.
LucidMomentum
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Oh for sure, but bear with us if we're upset that a man clearly under the influence of something gets treated with more care and respect than a man running away, when the main difference we've seen in similar situations is skin tone.
I'm against cops killing anyone unnecessarily, tbh. Examples like the above show that it's possible.
MegaManTrigger
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Why do we need to applaud restraint? The whole point of being a cop is that using a gun should be a last resort, not the first. In that regard, cops have been consistently incompetent. Not to mention, this guy never got shot whereas had it been a black man in his position, he would've eaten 3, 4, 5, 6+ bullets for running towards the officer.
Corronchilejano
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Cop reports events that didn't happen. Why is anyone defending this?
'Cause cop haz tough job.
plagiarize
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How anyone thinks it's a good idea at this point to deflect from suspicion of being a racist by pointing out their black friends at this point is lost on me.
The cops lied. They get no benefit of the doubt. If they had just said they thought he was reaching for a weapon they would still have gotten away with it and that would still be bullshit, but at least they wouldn't have proven themselves to be liars.
We know they lied. A man who was fleeing is dead. Nothing happens. People are frustrated. If you don't understand this it's because you refuse to.
The cops lied. They get no benefit of the doubt. If they had just said they thought he was reaching for a weapon they would still have gotten away with it and that would still be bullshit, but at least they wouldn't have proven themselves to be liars.
We know they lied. A man who was fleeing is dead. Nothing happens. People are frustrated. If you don't understand this it's because you refuse to.
n00bsauce87
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The entire justice department is corrupt. Think about it. Even though they had damning evidence that under normal circumstances would at least warrant a grand jury to look at the case, was immediately dismissed by the DA and then sent to news outlets to run with. Like they feel confident that it doesn't matter what the public thinks and the officer will get away with it.
And for all the officers that were complicit or hasn't spoken up against this. Even in an anonymous post released to media and news outlets are just as bad as the murderer.
Can we agree that the majority of (white) cops are inherently scared of black people?
And for all the officers that were complicit or hasn't spoken up against this. Even in an anonymous post released to media and news outlets are just as bad as the murderer.
Can we agree that the majority of (white) cops are inherently scared of black people?
mckmas8808
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And it still doesn't matter. Yet most white people get mad at NFL players kneeling during the anthem.
Epsilon-delta
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Replace Kaepernick with Gronkowski kneeling for disabled veterans and this would not be an issue or nowhere near as controversial.
Jmanunknown
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I remember a similar incident happened in Utah a few years back where the cops said one thing and the autopsy said another so they changed their official statements to match the autopsy. I think the guy was cosplaying as Mugen from Samurai champloo. Also I can not believe how ridiculous it is that the police killed another black man in Utah let alone shot him in the back because in state with a population of 3 million people their are only 45 thousand black people.
This is nonsense. Warning shots are effective policy elsewhere. It's proven. Why U.S. police are so inferior might be another discussion. And since when are warning shots a video game thing lol. Shoot to kill is a videogame and movie thing.
Unless you in the middle of nowhere a warning shot would be incredible stupid. Don't pull the trigger unless you intend to kill. Police need to stop pulling the trigger not start shooting random shots that could hit anyone.
USA police are just trying to clean out the black population like it's some prest control. To be fair, Trump is in office, white supremacist are everywhere, even in the main public offices, they love their guns and often lobby to gain influence through such means. Only language they know is violence and now we get the FBI making a crime to be black too. All their sins will catch up to them eventually. I'm sure they would love to live in a world where IED becomes the norm at police stations, a world where police and black people don't see eye to eye anymore and a world where there's barricades everywhere. At this point, it's almost as if the police are desperately trying to instigated an armed rebellion
That last line is truth.
Real world use of warning shots outsife the U.S. suggest otherwise. Though to be fair, I don't trust U.S. police to actually be able to effectively use warning shots or debilitating shots. Too much intentionally hiring idiots in many departments along with poor training.
Vicetrailia
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In america we make excuses for why you shouldn't be killing everytime you pull out a gun, even though other countries successfully implement our excuses.
Can we just skip this routine for once?
Someone's gonna link various EU police guidelines that say they are supposed to fire warning shots and fire at legs. Then you're gonna say that's just nonsense and never actually happens. Then people are going to link reports of it happening, and then you're going to claim it's cherry picked and ignore it.
Yeah I'm honestly not expecting any US officer to do something they aren't trained to do, but the same song and dance happens like, every thread.
Temeculan3000
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It really does derail the thread. Truth is US and EU police are trained differently. It's really a separate conversation about police training. People shouldn't act like US police training guidelines are universal truths, but also it isn't realistic to expect US police to adopt EU practices instantly without some sort of reform.
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