They already trying covering themselves in the flags of others.
Antifa and BLM never did anything like this either. Not even close.
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Antifa and BLM never did anything like this either. Not even close.
Boodler81
Neo Member
Kansas woman Jeanie Evans died of an allergic reaction to COVID-19 vaccine, autopsy shows
Northeast Kansas resident Jeanie Evans, 68, died last March in Topeka of "anaphylaxis due to COVID-19 vaccination," according to her autopsy report.
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Boodler81
Neo Member
No, Antifa and BLM just burnt down buildings and set cars on fire.
TDiddyLive
Member
While they did exactly what your saying, they actually did do the same thing as well. They blocked many roads in many cities, including freeways.
Where did that happen?
Boodler81
Neo Member
Uhhhhh lol
exactly
Boodler81
Neo Member
My response was to my sheer bewilderment about your reaction.
Boodler81
Neo Member
To me, that all sounds worse than honking horns.
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Well, that didn't happen in Canada. And didn't even hear about that. 3 days, huh. It's been going on 2 weeks now here. The noise got shut down by one young woman and the courts. An amazing display of civics.
Boodler81
Neo Member
More than 3 days for a lot of folks. Some of those businesses are still rubble almost 2 years later.
That sounds like something for their districts and state to deal with.
There's some class action suits going to recover money for the occupation.
Meet the 21-year-old Ottawa woman who stopped the horns
“If that something is to be a voice and be a face—and even be even a target—for people to understand what really is going on here, I was more than willing to do so.”
Boodler81
Neo Member
No reparations for the last 2 years though?That sounds like something for their districts and state to deal with.
There's some class action suits going to recover money for the occupation.
Meet the 21-year-old Ottawa woman who stopped the horns
“If that something is to be a voice and be a face—and even be even a target—for people to understand what really is going on here, I was more than willing to do so.”ottawa.ctvnews.ca
You'd have to check yourself.
There have been several arrests for violence. Weapons siezed. And about 200 ongoing investigations at this point.
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Canada’s bridge blocking trucker protest is short on semis
Many protesters work in industries other than trucking, but are joining in solidarity to oppose COVID vaccine mandates.
Satire:
www.thebeaverton.com
Ghost of Pierre Elliott Trudeau urges Justin to “say the line”
OTTAWA - As protestors continue to occupy Ottawa streets with trucks, the spectral form of ex-PM Pierre Elliott Trudeau has reportedly taken to urging his son Justin to invoke his infamous line, “Just watch me”.
www.thebeaverton.com
GooseMan69
Member
The tide is finally starting to turn I think. Majority of people are so done with the restrictions and mandates and all the bullshit. Personally, I thought the lockdowns and restrictions were bullshit from the start. Glad to see the masses finally come around.
Seems to be a memo on the left to pivot away from Covid hysteria as well.
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Ionian
Member
‘Next Step is Civil War’: Big Money Convoy Donor Says Ottawa Siege May Be Canada’s Last Hope
“The next step is they all go back and they have a gun in their hands”
pressprogress.ca
Despite COVID-19, census shows Canada's population grew at fastest rate in G7
OTTAWA — Canada’s population grew at a faster rate than many of its peers, rising to over 36.99 million on census day last year despite a historic slowdown caused b…
ottawasun.com
chromhound
Member
So it's the end of the pandemic...For now
Vicetrailia
Banned
The masses finally coming around, or the masses doing wha should be done enabling the masses to finally get over with this thing?
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12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
yeah, Fauci has finally succumbed to public pressures to remove all the bullshit measures we've had in place because people have had enough. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the number of cases and severity
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12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
not sure why you would feel the need to let us know about someone dying from an allergic reactionKansas woman Jeanie Evans died of an allergic reaction to COVID-19 vaccine, autopsy shows
Northeast Kansas resident Jeanie Evans, 68, died last March in Topeka of "anaphylaxis due to COVID-19 vaccination," according to her autopsy report.www.yahoo.com
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Federal Conservatives reverse course on supporting trucker blockades, call for an end to all barricades
The move comes as the crisis grows bigger with a third blockade at a border crossing in Manitoba, in addition to those in Alberta and Ontario
www.theglobeandmail.com
Boodler81
Neo Member
Did you read it?
Hari Seldon
Member
Yeah at least in the US the polls have turned and therefore the mandates are coming down. Prepare for the gaslighting to commence at how they were never for mandates and restrictions.
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
Yes?
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
so you think virulence and case numbers is just a coincidence here? I'm confused
funkygunther
Banned
Hari Seldon
Member
I'm talking about the polls have shifted especially regarding vaccine mandates, and now at the state level at least they are reducing restrictions even though vaccine rates and masking rates are static.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Charts, colour coding and scale (axis) can lead to misleading information.
Stock charts are the worst. When I used to watch CNBC and CNN business shows, they'd show charts which looks like roller coaster pricing. But you look at the scale on the left and the stock only went up or down maybe a dollar or two, which % wise could be small if the stock price is high.
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funkygunther
Banned
A bit like currency value fluctuation graphs, unless there's a catastrophic event, the only way to see anything meaningful is trends over weeks or months. Those money TV shows just need something to talk about.
But that doesn't answer my specific question to a specific poster. Because yes, it can lead to misleading information and that's why I asked what I did.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
The values of the axes are right there without even having to click on the tweet. Then the coloration values of the second image are entirely misleading.
Sadly we've seen a lot of this sort of misrepresentation of data by people of all kinds since this pandemic started, and it's easy to get fooled by it at first glance.
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Kenpachii
Member
This shit is the worst, huge differences in charts, but then when u look at the miniature letters they put in the corner, its only like 1% of the value.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
So which is it?
1. Gov and health ministers truly acting in accordance with covid counts and deaths?
2. Looking for votes as people getting pissy at covid lockdown policies?
Amazing how Ontario rode the roller coaster of opening up and lockdowns. Now it's suddenly floodgates open. Ontario still has about 3000 daily covid counts which is sky high as at the beginning of covid tracking, a 2,000 daily count was like the apocalypse of lockdowns.
www.cp24.com
1. Gov and health ministers truly acting in accordance with covid counts and deaths?
2. Looking for votes as people getting pissy at covid lockdown policies?
Amazing how Ontario rode the roller coaster of opening up and lockdowns. Now it's suddenly floodgates open. Ontario still has about 3000 daily covid counts which is sky high as at the beginning of covid tracking, a 2,000 daily count was like the apocalypse of lockdowns.
Toronto, Canada and Global Breaking News – CP24
Most recent News News business news stories and video from CP24
www.cp24.com
chromhound
Member
Both lolSo which is it?
1. Gov and health ministers truly acting in accordance with covid counts and deaths?
2. Looking for votes as people getting pissy at covid lockdown policies?
Amazing how Ontario rode the roller coaster of opening up and lockdowns. Now it's suddenly floodgates open. Ontario still has about 3000 daily covid counts which is sky high as at the beginning of covid tracking, a 2,000 daily count was like the apocalypse of lockdowns.
Toronto, Canada and Global Breaking News – CP24
Most recent News News business news stories and video from CP24
DeepBreath87
Banned
I’ve been away from this thread for a long time. I figured I’d come back just to make a couple of comments.
People are tired of all the restrictions and mandates because that shit didn’t work like we were led to believe they would. We were told masks and vaccines would flatten the curve. Told the vaccine specifically would stop you from being infected or at least protect from symptomatic disease and more importantly transmission. Told masks, even cloth ones, were our best tool other than vaccines to control the spread. Turns out a lot of stuff we were told didn’t do what they told us it was going to do. The government asked us to put a lot of faith in them and they failed. We took their shots and wore their masks and many kept their kids home from school, and what do we have to show for all that? The largest spike of covid since the pandemic began. And the places that didn’t have the mandates or follow the public health proclamations really didn’t do that much worse.
The public health establishment has lost a ton of credibility. All you have to do is look at the public opinion polls of the people that represent it. It turns out you can’t tell people your vaccine is 95% effective at preventing disease and then 6 months after 60% of the adult population gets the shots, they all get covid anyway without people losing faith. You can say the virus mutates and science is complicated. You’d be correct. That’s why you don’t make definitive claims about a vaccine you only tested for less than a year. Because it turns out there’s a lot you can’t account for and when the things you tell people turn out to be wrong even for reasons outside your control, it is hard to get people to trust you anymore.
Now we have a crisis of confidence in leadership. That’s not a good place to be in a democracy. It makes of society weak. We need to be able to believe that the people in charge are at the very least competent. Preferably honest as well. Right now a lot of the society believes neither. Turns out our governments couldn’t stop the virus. And the vaccines, while providing some value, didn’t do what they promised. And our kids should’ve been in school. And people sacrificed a lot for little in return. And until the people in charge take responsibility for that, many many people are not going to trust them any more.
People are tired of all the restrictions and mandates because that shit didn’t work like we were led to believe they would. We were told masks and vaccines would flatten the curve. Told the vaccine specifically would stop you from being infected or at least protect from symptomatic disease and more importantly transmission. Told masks, even cloth ones, were our best tool other than vaccines to control the spread. Turns out a lot of stuff we were told didn’t do what they told us it was going to do. The government asked us to put a lot of faith in them and they failed. We took their shots and wore their masks and many kept their kids home from school, and what do we have to show for all that? The largest spike of covid since the pandemic began. And the places that didn’t have the mandates or follow the public health proclamations really didn’t do that much worse.
The public health establishment has lost a ton of credibility. All you have to do is look at the public opinion polls of the people that represent it. It turns out you can’t tell people your vaccine is 95% effective at preventing disease and then 6 months after 60% of the adult population gets the shots, they all get covid anyway without people losing faith. You can say the virus mutates and science is complicated. You’d be correct. That’s why you don’t make definitive claims about a vaccine you only tested for less than a year. Because it turns out there’s a lot you can’t account for and when the things you tell people turn out to be wrong even for reasons outside your control, it is hard to get people to trust you anymore.
Now we have a crisis of confidence in leadership. That’s not a good place to be in a democracy. It makes of society weak. We need to be able to believe that the people in charge are at the very least competent. Preferably honest as well. Right now a lot of the society believes neither. Turns out our governments couldn’t stop the virus. And the vaccines, while providing some value, didn’t do what they promised. And our kids should’ve been in school. And people sacrificed a lot for little in return. And until the people in charge take responsibility for that, many many people are not going to trust them any more.
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Wrong. Mandates and restrictions did work. Made a comparison of those last summer between BC and Alberta when both dropped most mandates at the same time. When cases started to rise BC immediately put in targeted regional mandates at the end of July. Cases, deaths, hospitalizations, impact on economy, were all lower than Alberta through Delta with mandates and restrictions. Alberta eventually had to call in federal help. While BC managed themselves.
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DeepBreath87
Banned
They didn’t work as promised and they have fractured your society. I’d say the social consequences of those measures outweigh and outlast whatever marginal difference they made in terms of covid.