RJMacready73
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How are we meant to charge them exorbitant university tution fees if they're not in the country though...
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Covid is exploding in China
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nush
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Seperate the people from the government, they had no choice in this.
FunkMiller
Member
…and sell them lots of property, so it becomes impossible for actual residents to find anywhere to fucking rent.
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nush
Member
Lets go back in timeNovember 2019 to be exact
But hindsight is 2020.
Tams
Member
It ultimately falls back onto the people. They let themselves be repressed.
And before you @ me, yes I know that getting out from under that boot would likely mean 1,000s, if not 10,000s or even 100,000s of deaths and many more wounded. And I am very grateful to live in a country and be from a country that have had ancestors already made that sacrifice for our freedom, so that the likes of me don't have to.
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There is substantial population immunity in the UK. I doubt it would be an issue.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And at one time, we were all called racists and bigots for this.
Revelation is a hell of a drug.
FunkMiller
Member
You clever bitch.
FunkMiller
Member
Unless, you know, variants.
Also, we may have built up immunity through vaccines and spread, but it’s still not exactly a good idea to let thousands of covid carrying people enter the country to spread it around even more.
Also, also, China needs to be humbled a bit by the rest of us for their fucking stupidity. Putting restrictions on them would help with that.
nush
Member
Putting the same restrictions on them as they did for foreigners entering China for the last 3 years. Then let them cry about it as you bring receipts about their policies to overseas visitors.
But it circulated in 2019 November in China and probably other countries .. 2019.
DeepEnigma
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nush
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I don't think travel bans were ever successful in stopping variants, since by the time you impose the ban, cases have already slipped through. (Testing is going to be less successful, since the virus needs to be caught in the right window). If there are tens of thousands of potentially infected people coming, mandatary testing might be a good idea to reduce the initial case load. But either way I doubt there will be any crazy serious consequences.
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nush
Member
Can we quote you at the end of February?
I tested positive for covid a few days ago. First time getting it and it’s pretty clear that a lot of people are no longer testing and just walking about spreading it at will.
While I agree people need to get on with their lives, in the UK at least it seems we aren’t doing much if anything to stop it spreading this winter.
Have to say it is also pretty bad and more painful and disrupting from what I’d say normal flu is.
While I agree people need to get on with their lives, in the UK at least it seems we aren’t doing much if anything to stop it spreading this winter.
Have to say it is also pretty bad and more painful and disrupting from what I’d say normal flu is.
Sure.
HoodWinked
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Lifting the restrictions is probably why cases are spiking. Could be that people are just done being locked down, in the US after a month people just stopped caring. So rather than having the veil of control be exposed, China may be ripping off the bandage and letting it rip as quick as possible so they can get over it faster.
Also Chinese New Year is a couple weeks away their biggest holiday, they could be trying to get ahead of it by pushing heard immunity now.
Also Chinese New Year is a couple weeks away their biggest holiday, they could be trying to get ahead of it by pushing heard immunity now.
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nush
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Every public holiday in China since the lockdown ended has gone like this. Two weeks after the holiday there is an outbreak, panic lasts 2 weeks goes back to normal. Repeat for the next two years.
People I've know that have said they were "sick" this month are already over it, paranoia is still out on the streets and the schools have not reopened and I don't expect them to be until after CNY.
February is the month to watch, in any country.
Tams
Member
The CCP have almost certainly decided that the risk to them is lesser allowing the virus to spread than imposing more lockdowns. The lockdowns had people at boiling point and there was a real risk (from the CCP's perspective) of full-blown civil unrest and of widespread open criticism of them.
This way, they can let people let off steam, have them worried they might get infected (so isolate themselves to a degree - less likelihood of unrest), or even just simply die. The CCP didn't care in the past if millions died; they won't care much more this time (a bit more as they do need the workforce to be large). Meanwhile, they can use their resources to go after the protestors they can track down.
Also, perhaps the CCP will eventually go, 'Told you so! Look how many of you have died now that the restrictions have been lifted! We were right all along!'
EverydayBeast
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Year 3, 4 Covid is kinda bonkers. It’s this generations version of the Spanish flu.
nush
Member
The "Best" thing I ever saw was a drinks company setting up a promotional marketing stall right at the start of the Covid testing queue next to a police station. No fucks given, "Here's a captive audience to sell to". Proper China.
People got rich off masks and dodgy test kits.
Dr.D00p
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Its too late anyway. If we're just now hearing about how bad it is, they will have been coming to both countries with it for weeks...
nush
Member
Bottom line, it was costing them billions and it did not eliminate Covid.
Sybrix
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Banning travel from other countries never worked, you can ban travel from China however someone infected in China can travel to Japan then to Australia then to the UK and boom, virus is in the UK.
Also the amount of stuff UK and EU import from China, it would come over on packaging etc.
It's impossible to stop, it takes one person or one item to spread it.
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nush
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Nope.
How Long COVID-19 Lives Outside the Body
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health.clevelandclinic.org
WhatDidHeSay?
Member
Gently ushering in lockdown #3 for the UK... I think the first week of January that "the gloves are off" for China in terms of opening up their travels....
...aaaah yes .. the third AND final lockdown. See you all on the other side
...aaaah yes .. the third AND final lockdown. See you all on the other side
SiteSeer
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GeorgioCostanzaX
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That’s what I meant janitor acting as a fence for a legit seller who then sold the bat meat out of their stall. Half joking but considering this is the country where people routinely get caught selling counterfeit sometimes poisonous baby formula it wouldn’t surprise me at all.You can't just go to these markets and offload used meat like a thrift store. It's more likely some office cleaner;
Because they do do that if it's not locked down.
Tams
Member
It was the unrest that pushed them over though. Merely days before the unrest the CCP were all in on draconian lockdowns and 'Zero Covid'.
Stitch
Gold Member
They do, but their own Vaccine seems to be not very effective especially against new variants
FunkMiller
Member
I believe the rules are relaxing in China on January 5th, so there's still still to implement restrictions, to stop the hordes of Chinese people on planes coming over with potential new variants.
pramod
Banned
China COVID deaths accelerate to 9,000 a day - UK research firm Airfinity
Around 9,000 people in China are probably dying each day from COVID-19, UK-based health data firm Airfinity said on Thursday, nearly doubling its estimate from a week ago, as infections ripped across the world's most populous nation.
www.reuters.com
Wildebeest
Member
China has the relatively mild, newer variants to deal with now. It will be rough for the elderly and vulnerable with no immunity, but their lockdowns were just delaying the inevitable. Banning Chinese people from entering when they don't have anything worse than what we already have endemic is politics, not science.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Yeah it pisses me off to no end. But still at least the general Aussie populace are in a better position vaccination wise currently.
Also will any of the state and territory governments even have any appetite for more lockdowns? They can't even mandate mask wearing for crying out loud.
Also, the Aus government are probably doing everything to not antagonise the CCP right now, since China are looking at restoring/normalising relations. And that's another fucking thing that pisses me off. Money is the only reason why any of these govt and business fuckers would want to 'normalise relations' with a fucked up hostile, insidious, totalitarian regime. Meanwhile these cunts are staging and preparing for war, and has Taiwan in their sights.
edit: Well I'll be damned:
Australian government announces COVID-19 testing requirements for travellers from China
Australia is to introduce COVID-19 test requirements for arrivals from China — after skyrocketing COVID-19 case numbers — joining a range of other countries, including the United Kingdom, the United States and France.
www.abc.net.au
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Tams
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Yeah it pisses me off to no end. But still at least the general Aussie populace are in a better position vaccination wise currently.
Also will any of the state and territory governments even have any appetite for more lockdowns? They can't even mandate mask wearing for crying out loud.
Also, the Aus government are probably doing everything to not antagonise the CCP right now, since China are looking at restoring/normalising relations. And that's another fucking thing that pisses me off. Money is the only reason why any of these govt and business fuckers would want to 'normalise relations' with a fucked up hostile, insidious, totalitarian regime. Meanwhile these cunts are staging and preparing for war, and has Taiwan in their sights.
edit: Well I'll be damned:
Australian government announces COVID-19 testing requirements for travellers from China
Australia is to introduce COVID-19 test requirements for arrivals from China — after skyrocketing COVID-19 case numbers — joining a range of other countries, including the United Kingdom, the United States and France.
They could only ignore it for so long, and not to get political, but the current Aussie government do at least seem to have some morals and common sense.
I'd also say what they are doing with the Pacific island nations is a better approach to counter China than their predecessors. It's quite remarkable how once they started showing those island nations some respect that the talks China was having and trying to facilitate suddenly came crashing down.
nush
Member
"Some" doing all the heavy lifting here.
MisterFalcon
Member
To keep potential new super-covid out you will need not just to ban flights from China. Also countries that border China. And countries that do not ban flights from China. And countries that border countries that do not ban flights from China. And countries that do not ban flights from countries that do not ban flights from China.
So you will need to seal the borders for everyone, including your own citizens abroad, everything else is just for show.
So you will need to seal the borders for everyone, including your own citizens abroad, everything else is just for show.
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Tams
Member
No one with even half a brain is saying that keeping it out completely is an option. But by checking direct flights (and flights from common transfer hubs), you can prevent the prevalence of an potential future strains. That gives time for it to be detected and prepared for.
FunkMiller
Member
edit: Well I'll be damned:
Australian government announces COVID-19 testing requirements for travellers from China
Australia is to introduce COVID-19 test requirements for arrivals from China — after skyrocketing COVID-19 case numbers — joining a range of other countries, including the United Kingdom, the United States and France.
Hallelujah. I was dreading the idea of Australia once again bending the knee to China. It’s cut our balls off for decades now.
FunkMiller
Member
And it’s good politics. The CCP can’t be trusted at all, and it’s about time the western world started handling it in an effective manner - not kowtowing, just to avoid economic issues... which is the mistake that led to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. and if China isn’t spiked as well, similar things could happen in Taiwan.
2022 seems to be the year the west alters its relationship with the two worst dictatorships on the planet, and that’s to be applauded. Let’s just hope it’s not too little, too late.
nush
Member
China spent 3 years quarantining anyone who wasn't a Chinese national for two weeks (At their expense) in quarantine. Did it work? Well yes it did, any outbreaks of Covid were blamed on "Foreign imported cases" read: Foreigners gave it to us, even though we force them into a two week quarantine and let out Chinese nationals roam free.
Let me tell you being out on the streets now as a white guy in China, it's a fucking wild ride.
MisterFalcon
Member
That's a lot of people to lock up, Heathrow for instance takes in 200k passengers per day. Announcing a mandatory quarantine (ignoring the shake legality of that) will cut that massively but even at 20k per day that's 280.000 people to keep locked up, fed, tested, taken care of if they get ill and somehow avoid the thousands of staff doing that from getting infected. Effectively all that staff has to be kept isolated as well for long periods with their own 14-day isolation before going back home.
China can do it but now conceded that the effort is too much to keep up even for their immense resources and ways of coercion. Why they did not use some of that power to get more people vaccinated is the big question. The over-70's without vaccination are now dying by the thousands.
China can do it but now conceded that the effort is too much to keep up even for their immense resources and ways of coercion. Why they did not use some of that power to get more people vaccinated is the big question. The over-70's without vaccination are now dying by the thousands.
nush
Member
They don't trust modern medicines. If it's not herbal tea they don't want it.
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