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Critics: Disney's first latina princess 'not latina enough'

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Yeah there are plenty of latins that look like Cameron Diaz (And Zoe Saldana for that matter) but if their community wants a Mestiza, I understand that.

American phobias and traumas regarding race and media are the most bizarre thing ever for an outsider.

Non sterotypical latin: Not latin enough! The media white-fies everything! Racism!
Sterotypical latin: Far too much latin! The media always stereotypes minorities! Racism!

Gee, keep making arian princesses Disney, so noone will complain about their potrayal.

Bullshit. They can show Latin culture without being stereotypical, and it's not even a fine line.
 
As a Spaniard I'm mostly amused by how the whole pigmentation thing is obfuscating the fact that Latinamericans will probably eat broken glass before dealing with the royals again.

Eh.

well as a spaniard i can see how little girls will buy into princess toys and shows like there is no tomorrow :)
 

TUROK

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The point of creating a Latina princess is to reach out to an audience that might feel underrepresented. What is the point of even attempting a Latina princess then, if you're just going to make her look like all the previous princesses? You're not reaching out to anyone except the audience that has already been reached, coddled, and catered to.
Yeah, maybe you're right. Disney should just go ahead and take the stereotypical Mexican woman and transfer her to celluloid. Maybe she can talk like Rosie Perez too.
 

ymmv

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Yep, my ex-girlfriend had pale skin, green eyes, strawberry blonde hair. 75% Mexican.

I think it's utter garbage that Disney decided to go with a terrible tv-movie for their debut Latina princess story. I mean just look at the graphics, they're beyond embarrassing for our generation.

I don't think the little princes was supposed to be a model for Latina girls, since her mother is from a fictional Latin country. Her dad is a white King and the princess is "mixed". (Besides that, Latin Americans have a culture and Spanish language in common, not their race).
 

antonz

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Yeah, maybe you're right. Disney should just go ahead and take the stereotypical Mexican woman and transfer her to celluloid. Maybe she can talk like Rosie Perez too.
Thats clearly what they want so they can then bitch about it being a stereotype. Just darkening her skin some which is a stereotype in and of itself would not make her more latina
 

Eidan

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Yeah, maybe you're right. Disney should just go ahead and take the stereotypical Mexican woman and transfer her to celluloid. Maybe she can talk like Rosie Perez too.

Charlize Theron is an Afrikaner. Her likeness should be used as the model for Disney's second African-American princess. I mean, come on! There are white Africans people!
 

Eidan

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Whats wrong with giving kids a character who looks like them and they can relate to?

Because the only way you can do this is by making them look like a "stereotypical Mexican" with a voice like Rosie Perez. Evidently.

The kids should just be happy with Ariel. She's kind of a minority in that she was a fish for most of her movie.
 
Because the only way you can do this is by making them look like a "stereotypical Mexican" with a voice like Rosie Perez. Evidently.

The kids should just be happy with Ariel. She's kind of a minority in that she was a fish for most of her movie.

I relate to the fish struggle...or something
 

TUROK

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Best Latina princess will forever be the girl from El Dorado.


Dreamworks > Disney
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Voiced by Rosie Perez, too. Lol.

Charlize Theron is an Afrikaner. Her likeness should be used as the model for Disney's second African-American princess. I mean, come on! There are white Africans people!
Fuck yes it should. Black people already have a princess. Now the white African people need one.
 

A.E Suggs

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The only offense here is the animation style, kids don't deserve this.

Bullshit. They can show Latin culture without being stereotypical, and it's not even a fine line.

They can but people will still find something to complain about just like when they show black people in cartoons without being stereotyped. I just think they try to please whichever side gives them the less hassel.
 

ZoddGutts

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She's Latina? lol

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Latino.

Believe or not there's light skin latinos that even are red heads. On my mom's side of the family there's quite a few red heads while on my dad's my they have blond hair/blue eyes. Yeah we latinos happen to be very diverse, shocking I know.
 

tenchir

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Shouldn't the question is what is a latino/latina exactly? Or hispanics? Does this term only refer exclusively to people of latin america descent? What about the people from countries like Spain and Portugal? I could easily see this princess from there since Sofia is a very European name and so her complexion is what you should expect.

Isn't this really a case of a group of "latino" angry at Disney for not using their nationality to based their Princess off of?

Here's the current Queen Sofia of Spain. I can easily see this disney princess is based off of her.

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edit: found better pic of her.
 

Eidan

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Latino.

Believe or not there's light skin latinos that even are red heads. On my mom's side of the family there's quite a few red heads while on my dad's my they have blond hair/blue eyes. Yeah we latinos happen to be very diverse, shocking I know.

Again, if your goal is to reach out to a group that might feel underrepresented, what is the point of making a character that looks like a group that is overrepresented?
 

Zoe

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Shouldn't the question is what is a latino/latina exactly? Or hispanics? Does this term only refer exclusivesly to people of latin america descent? What about the people from countries like Spain and Portugal? I could easily see this princess from there since Sofia is a very European name.

Latino means from Latin America while Hispanic means related to Spain. Being Latino does not necessarily mean Hispanic and vice versa.
 
Shouldn't the question is what is a latino/latina exactly? Or hispanics? Does this term only refer exclusivesly to people of latin america descent? What about the people from countries like Spain and Portugal? I could easily see this princess from there since Sofia is a very European name.

Isn't this really a case of a group of "latino" angry at Disney for not using their nationality to based their Princess off of?

They're from fictional countries, the mom seems to be from a country that symbolizes Spain or Portugal. So yea they're basically european, but its fictional so disney can say what they want...it just feels a little dishonest
 
There's something terribly wrong with society when there are certain ethnic/racial qualifications for a new Disney princess
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"Ok we've got an Asian, Middle-Eastern, Native American, African-American and a fair variety of Caucasian princesses. I feel like we're forgetting something."

Creating a character specifically for an ethnic group to relate to is only reachable with a fair share of stereotyping, which I consider to be a pretty bad thing when you think about it. Are children really asking for "their own" character instead of just dreaming to be a Snow White or a Sleeping Beauty? Or is it just that parents have noticed that they're underrepresented by Disney in the realm of fairy tales, all the while their children don't really care and just want to play and have fun.
 
They can but people will still find something to complain about just like when they show black people in cartoons without being stereotyped. I just think they try to please whichever side gives them the less hassel.

No, people won't "still find something to complain about" (God am I sick of hearing this) assuming that their sensibilities aren't being attacked. It's not a dichotomy between "Blonde haired, blue eyed, Aryan with a spanish accent" and "Rosie Perez".
 
There's something terribly wrong with society when there are certain ethnic/racial qualifications for a new Disney princess
DisneyPrincesses.jpg

"Ok we've got an Asian, Middle-Eastern, Native American, African-American and a fair variety of Caucasian princesses. I feel like we're forgetting something."

Creating a character specifically for an ethnic group to relate to is only reachable with a fair share of stereotyping, which I consider to be a pretty bad thing when you think about it. Are children really asking for "their own" character instead of just dreaming to be a Snow White or a Sleeping Beauty? Or is it just that parents have noticed that they're underrepresented by Disney in the realm of fairy tales, all the while their children don't really care and just want to play and have fun.

It's really important to see and relate on that shallow level for children. It seems dumb as an adult but it is kind of a big deal for there to be a latina princess, that's why its such a let down that she's from fictional fantasy land where Disney can do as they please and make her look like a Hilton sister.
 

richiek

steals Justin Bieber DVDs
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Latino.

Believe or not there's light skin latinos that even are red heads. On my mom's side of the family there's quite a few red heads while on my dad's my they have blond hair/blue eyes. Yeah we latinos happen to be very diverse, shocking I know.

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Case in point: Guillermo del Toro.
 

otake

Doesn't know that "You" is used in both the singular and plural
As a Spaniard I'm mostly amused by how the whole pigmentation thing is obfuscating the fact that Latinamericans will probably eat broken glass before dealing with the royals again.

Eh.

This is accurate. All of latinamerica rebelled because of the Spanish monarchy.
 

antonz

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No, people won't "still find something to complain about" (God am I sick of hearing this) assuming that their sensibilities aren't being attacked. It's not a dichotomy between "Blonde haired, blue eyed, Aryan with a spanish accent" and "Rosie Perez".

Problem is Latina does not mean darker skinned Mexican which is what some of these groups complaining seem to think.

here's a fun exercise for people. go to google and search latina women and look at the pictures. Odds are 99% of them will be of the lighter skin persuasion. Though its not surprising. Cubans, Peurto Ricans etc tend to be looked down upon as not really latina by some
 

tenchir

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Latino means from Latin America while Hispanic means related to Spain. Being Latino does not necessarily mean Hispanic and vice versa.

When filling out information about myself, on the self nationality identification, doesn't Latin/Hispanic get lump together though? It's easy for most people to not be able to differentiate between the two.
 
There's something terribly wrong with society when there are certain ethnic/racial qualifications for a new Disney princess
DisneyPrincesses.jpg

"Ok we've got an Asian, Middle-Eastern, Native American, African-American and a fair variety of Caucasian princesses. I feel like we're forgetting something."

Creating a character specifically for an ethnic group to relate to is only reachable with a fair share of stereotyping, which I consider to be a pretty bad thing when you think about it. Are children really asking for "their own" character instead of just dreaming to be a Snow White or a Sleeping Beauty? Or is it just that parents have noticed that they're underrepresented by Disney in the realm of fairy tales, all the while their children don't really care and just want to play and have fun.

Well it actually reflects in children what they consider beautiful. There's a well known study, you can google it where little girls are given barbies and asked which is the most beautiful, they keep picking the blonde blue-eyed white barbie despite their own racial heritage. It's kind of sad too, they don't consider all of the barbies beautiful but that specific one because they're inundated with imagery that leads them to that conclusion.
 

cDNA

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Voiced by Rosie Perez, too. Lol.

Fuck yes it should. Black people already have a princess. Now the white African people need one.

I remember she was thief/racketeer in that movie, it was a fun character but I don't think that will be considered the best role model.
 

A.E Suggs

Member
No, people won't "still find something to complain about" (God am I sick of hearing this) assuming that their sensibilities aren't being attacked. It's not a dichotomy between "Blonde haired, blue eyed, Aryan with a spanish accent" and "Rosie Perez".

Your saying they won't(as in it never happens) i'm saying they do, your problem is that you probably don't see it and don't wont to believe people don't always complain. Example Nick fury from marvel comics wasn't a stereotypical black guy when he was changed from being a white guy but yet people complained, your just not going to please everyone no matter what you do. Its not a matter of you being tired of hearing it they do try and most of the time they just aren't successful.
 

Effect

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Mom looks adopted. They couldn't even make her full Latino. Dad sounds like he is of German descent

From that picture, if one had no information before hand, one can easily assume the adult female is new to the family and the show is about the kids dealing with a new mother. Disney has made new princesses before. Why would they do it this way is what I'm wondering. Why just a latina mother as well? No father or brother and sisters of the same background? Fantasy setting? *shakes head*
 
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