Currently there is a Remote Play/ Cloud gaming device (PlayStation Portal) building it's own user-base without 1 exclusive game

Easy actually you make a game that take advantage of being a cloud game by doing things like going beyond the limits of the local PS5 like being over 1TB & make the game available on Portal
Sony server hardware is basically running games as if they're on a PS5. Sony don't allow platforms other than PS+ on the Portal.

You're asking for something that is impossible unless Sony make big changes to their servers or allow other Devs to use there's.

No publisher/dev can make this happen except Sony.

Then there's the case of why would you make this cloud streamed game exclusive to the Portal when it could run on the PS5/Anything else.
 
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Sony server hardware is basically running games as if they're on a PS5. Sony don't allow platforms other than PS+ on the Portal.

You're asking for something that is impossible unless Sony make big changes to their servers or allow other Devs to use there's.

Then there's the case of why would you make this cloud streamed game exclusive to the Portal when it could run on the PS5/Anything else.
It's not impossible it's easy
 
How am I wrong? And I literally just used the words you did in this thread title and opening post.
You was wrong when you said a game couldn't be made for it , if Sony wanted to they could add some offline game right on the system. But like I said that's not what I'm talking about I was just pointing out that you was wrong.
 
You was wrong when you said a game couldn't be made for it , if Sony wanted to they could add some offline game right on the system. But like I said that's not what I'm talking about I was just pointing out that you was wrong.
That's just a pedantic objection. It currently isn't possible and if Sony does want to do so, what would be the point? The graphical capability is far below even the Switch 1 and the device only has 6GB total storage. Sony is not the type of company to even bother. Nor would anyone else. It's not going to run local games nor will it ever.

The Portal is perfectly positioned as it is possibly can be. Streaming games. Not a platform or potential target of its own.
 
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That's just a pedantic objection. It currently isn't possible and if Sony does want to do so, what would be the point? The graphical capability is far below even the Switch 1 and the device only has 6GB total storage. Sony is not the type of company to even bother. Nor would anyone else. It's not going to run local games nor will it ever.

The Portal is perfectly positioned as it is possibly can be. Streaming games. Not a platform or potential target of its own.

You do know that Portal was hacked earlier to run PSP games right? But you think it's not possible for Sony to add some time wasting game for when you're offline? 😂
 
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You do know that Portal was hacked earlier to run PSP games right? But you think it's not possible for Sony to add some time wasting game for when you're offline? 😂
Oh wow. PSP games you say? That just proves my point. You think Sony of all people will bother?
 
Why not just answer the question? Genuinely curious. What makes you like it so much?
Probably the same for him as most other users.

It's the best handheld device you can stream PlayStation games on.

Large screen, doesn't have smartphone crap bogging it down, and has by far the best controller you can find on ANY handheld.

It's also relatively cheap.
 
Probably the same for him as most other users.

It's the best handheld device you can stream PlayStation games on.

Large screen, doesn't have smartphone crap bogging it down, and has by far the best controller you can find on ANY handheld.

It's also relatively cheap.
Can get pre-owned for about £130-£140 here. If I could use it to stream from my pc as well I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Should be better experience than using my Ally for it.

Even just for ps+ cloud streaming I've been tempted but don't think I will.
 
Probably the same for him as most other users.

It's the best handheld device you can stream PlayStation games on.

Large screen, doesn't have smartphone crap bogging it down, and has by far the best controller you can find on ANY handheld.

It's also relatively cheap.
Best handheld for PlayStation games, perhaps due to the DualSense built in but not the best handheld for Streaming in general.
 
Oh wow. PSP games you say? That just proves my point. You think Sony of all people will bother?
What's wrong with you? I'm not talking about running games on the local hardware but I pointed out that you was actually wrong about that because it could be done.

But it's not a bad idea for Sony to add a small game to the OS for when there is no connection . Something like a Astro Bot endless runner


 
What kind of mental gymnastics is this? The ps5s exclusives are the same exclusives. The portal has barely sold 2 million and maybe another million this year.

It's a toilet device. Nothing more.
 
What's wrong with you? I'm not talking about running games on the local hardware but I pointed out that you was actually wrong about that because it could be done.

But it's not a bad idea for Sony to add a small game to the OS for when there is no connection . Something like a Astro Bot endless runner



There is nothing wrong with me. I pointed out that the Portal is not a platform nor can you develop games specifically for it. This is 100% factually true. That you can hack the device and install your own applications is utterly irrelevant to that point. Of course the hardware is capable of it (to a very limited extent) but Sony is not going to bother, especially with the limited amount of storage space.

All of this applies to third party developers that wish to target the Portal user-base as a main platform (your words). Nobody is going to do that as the main functionality is streaming (so the Portal user-base is the PS5 user-base) and even if by some miracle Sony allows games to run locally, no developer is going to limit themselves to hardware so underpowered it would struggle to run Wii games and only has 6GB of disk space. Less than a DVD.
 
What kind of mental gymnastics is this? The ps5s exclusives are the same exclusives. The portal has barely sold 2 million and maybe another million this year.

It's a toilet device. Nothing more.
So, it has sold more than all ROGs, Lenovo, and MSI have combined, but it's just a toilet device?

Can't be that bad considering it literally only does streaming, yet is still selling better than actual dedicated local play PC handhelds.

Give it another year and it will probably overtake Steamdeck.
 
There is nothing wrong with me. I pointed out that the Portal is not a platform nor can you develop games specifically for it. This is 100% factually true. That you can hack the device and install your own applications is utterly irrelevant to that point. Of course the hardware is capable of it (to a very limited extent) but Sony is not going to bother, especially with the limited amount of storage space.

All of this applies to third party developers that wish to target the Portal user-base as a main platform (your words). Nobody is going to do that as the main functionality is streaming (so the Portal user-base is the PS5 user-base) and even if by some miracle Sony allows games to run locally, no developer is going to limit themselves to hardware so underpowered it would struggle to run Wii games and only has 6GB of disk space. Less than a DVD.
Again it was explained to you that I wasn't talking about games running locally but I pointed out to you that you was wrong & that it actually could be done. Portal has a chip like what's in phones & tablets if Sony wanted to add a small offline game for when there is no connection they could. But that's not the topic
 
What kind of mental gymnastics is this? The ps5s exclusives are the same exclusives. The portal has barely sold 2 million and maybe another million this year.

It's a toilet device. Nothing more.
The Portal has sold over 1.3M in the USA alone. How has it only sold 2M worldwide?
It's probably at around 4M at this point.
 
So, it has sold more than all ROGs, Lenovo, and MSI have combined, but it's just a toilet device?

Can't be that bad considering it literally only does streaming, yet is still selling better than actual dedicated local play PC handhelds.

Give it another year and it will probably overtake Steamdeck.
It is an accessory to PS5 and now cloud gaming, that is selling surprisingly well for this niche. It will also never get exclusives because that would not make any sense.
 
Again it was explained to you that I wasn't talking about games running locally but I pointed out to you that you was wrong & that it actually could be done. Portal has a chip like what's in phones & tablets if Sony wanted to add a small offline game for when there is no connection they could. But that's not the topic
Yes, and I'm explaining while it is technically feasible to unlock it, it is functionality not going to be done. Why? Because it has 6GB available install space and a chip so ancient budget smart phones from 5 years ago are faster.

But I'm not only talking about games running locally, nor was that even my original point. The device streams PS5 games, so there is nothing to target, even if you just talk about steaming, the user-base for this device is the regular PS5 user-base, just streaming rather than playing locally.
 
So, it has sold more than all ROGs, Lenovo, and MSI have combined, but it's just a toilet device?

Can't be that bad considering it literally only does streaming, yet is still selling better than actual dedicated local play PC handhelds.

Give it another year and it will probably overtake Steamdeck.

Those 2 million were not for a stand alone streaming. They were existing ps5 owners which there are 80 million who wanted a home streaming device so they could play while not in front of the tv.

I frankly don't see how anyone could use any of these big devices like the switch or steam deck as real portable device.
 
Those 2 million were not for a stand alone streaming. They were existing ps5 owners which there are 80 million who wanted a home streaming device so they could play while not in front of the tv.

I frankly don't see how anyone could use any of these big devices like the switch or steam deck as real portable device.


That two million number is pulled from thin air.

We don't have concrete recent numbers, but we do know that it is far beyond 2m at this point. Unless you have some data we haven't seen here.

It wouldn't matter though. some people will continue to downplay Portal success no many how many units sells.

The fact is. Portal is NOT just a toilet device.
 
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That won't happen OP as there are not enough customers and Sony is AFAIK not allowing it.

This could technically happen with the upcoming PS handheld. But even there, developers will prefer make games for PS5/Canis then later PS6/Canis.

This will totally happen when Sony will ditch its home console business and only keep their handhelds platforms. In a few decades, maybe.
 
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