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Curt Schilling asks Jake Tapper "as a Jew" why Jews are Democrats

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johnsmith

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this cringey. Warren is going to have an easy road in 2018.

http://youtu.be/02U8rCXkEWI

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrymp...crats?bftwnews&utm_term=.euYm02Jy8#.mpwgVPnwR

Donald Trump supporter and aspiring Massachusetts senator Curt Schilling asked CNN's Jake Tapper Friday how Jews can support Democrats, prompting the host to twice insist that he doesn't "speak for Jews."

Schilling — a former Red Sox pitcher who plans to challenge Elizabeth Warren for her senate seat in 2018 — was on CNN'sThe Lead when he said he assumed Tapper would vote for Hillary Clinton, and not for Trump. Tapper replied that he doesn't vote in presidential elections, prompting Schilling to pose a question to "a person who's practicing the Jewish faith and has since you were young."

"I don't understand, and maybe this is the amateur, non-politician in me, I don't understand how people of Jewish faith can back the Democratic Party, which over the last 50 years has been so clearly anti-Israel, so clearly anti-Jewish Israel," Schilling said.

After Schilling continued for a moment longer, Tapper responded.

"Well, I don't speak for Jews," he said. "And I don't support the Democratic Party or the Republican Party."

Trapper, who is Jewish, went on to speculate that "one of the reasons many Jews are Democrats has more to do with Democrats' support for social welfare programs and that sort of thing."

"Again, I don't speak for Jews," he added.
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he had a follow up with Chris Matthews on the same subject

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1TkaDl4l6EM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...te-bid-with-brutal-jake-tapper-interview.html
Later, in a separate interview with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, Schilling — this time in a suit and tie — forcefully defended his question to Tapper. “I'm apparently an anti-Semite, because I had the gall and the audacity to ask someone of the Jewish faith why or how they believe people of Jewish faith vote Democrat,” he said, laying on some thick sarcasm. “God forbid I listen to someone of the faith, rather than the media, who clearly are not biased and don't have an agenda.”

“I don't need Chris Matthews to tell me why people of Jewish people vote the way they do,” he continued. “And I don't have a problem asking people questions like that, because I'm not trying to be offensive or racist.”

In response, Matthews explained to Schilling that it may not be wise to “ask a person of a religious faith or a race to speak for that religious group and ask them to sort of account for it.”

“Not true!” Schilling shot back, once more channeling Trump. “Liberals do it to Christians all the time.” As a “white male Christian,” he complained that people just assume he’s a “racist," adding, “I'm tired of hearing the media tell me what I should care about.”
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GhostWriter24

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An ignorant assumption by Schilling, but nothing world-ending. If anything this clown will be forgotten about in a week's time.

P.S. His game studio was a fucking tire fire.
 
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The guy is such an ignorant scumbag in just about all things. Guess he couldn't stand fading into irrelevance after his spectacular business failure, so now he aims to be a politician?

He definitely has the appropriate level of oblivious hypocrisy and ignorant bigotry to be a typical "conservative" in modern America.
 
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darkace

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There are classy ways to ask why members of certain ethnic groups identify with certain political parties.

This isn't it.
 
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Apt101

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"Hey since all jews, like blacks and mexicans and especially asians, walk lock-step in arms on every single issue without individual thought, can you, as a jew, please tell me...."
 
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johnsmith

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Oh my god. The video I watched originally cut off the beginning of it and I totally missed the "i assume as a Jew you're voting Hillary"

That's even worse
 
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sprsk

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I don't vote for presidential elections? Come on, son.


I'll say, AS A JEW, I find it hilarious the religious right feels like we have to be like them and need to be this faith-blind monolith who all think Israel should be defended at all costs no matter what hellish shit they do.

To put it bluntly, the religious right simply do not know what Judaism is, most probably think it's like Christianity but we just go to church on Saturday and for some reason don't do the Jesus. We're a culture, yeah there's faith involved, but a large portion of Jews are not blinded by their faith with regards to what is going on in the world. A lot of us American jews aren't even religious at all tbh.

I mean he may just be talking about hasidic Jews but I doubt he knows the difference.
 
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CaviarMeths

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If Curt Schilling is being serious about running in 2018 and is trying to do voter research, he's got a lot of work ahead of him. He's going to have to go around and ask everyone "as a <anything but straight white high school educated Christian male>, why do you vote Democrat?"
 
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Volimar

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I expect the Schilling comment, but why do you not vote for presidents Jake Tapper?


This is actually very common for journalists, especially ones that report on politics, to try to avoid accusations of bias. Anderson Cooper has also said he doesn't vote.
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I can see why they say that, but I hope it's not true. You shouldn't shirk your civic duty just because people can't separate your personal beliefs from your political coverage.
 
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Spectone

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I don't understand how anyone who professes to follow Jesus could vote for Donald Trump or even the Republican Party. They seem to be the antithesis of the Christian faith and everything Jesus stood for.
 
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Apt101

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Spectone said:
I don't understand how anyone who professes to follow Jesus could vote for Donald Trump or even the Republican Party. They seem to be the antithesis of the Christian faith and everything Jesus stood for.
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Because they thump the Bible. Also, just because a person says they're Christian, and indeed may even spend two or three hours a week in a church, doesn't mean they believe the least bit of what Jesus preached. I went to a "Rock Church" a few times (young, was seeing a girl, a few of you have probably been in similar positions) and the entire sermon didn't resemble the teachings of Jesus I had learned while coming up Catholic at all. It was all money, success, fuck gays, it's the poor's own fault.
 
TheRedSnifit

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I don't really see an issue with the question in and of itself, or at least the portion in the OP.

If somebody asked "As an evangelical Christian, why do evangelicals support Trump," I think most people would agree it's a fair question.
 
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Kettch

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I wish the Democratic party were anti-Israel. It's weird that my ideal party only exists in the imagination of crazy Republicans. If only it were that easy to legalize drugs, ban guns and cut our support for countries like Israel. Reality is a lot gloomier.
 
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EdibleKnife

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Spectone said:
I don't understand how anyone who professes to follow Jesus could vote for Donald Trump or even the Republican Party. They seem to be the antithesis of the Christian faith and everything Jesus stood for.
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Because it's not about Jesus for some people. For some people, the concept of being morally/spiritually superior and using that position to justify looking down on and harming others is why they actually devote so much time to the faith. Wearing shirts and listening to music about Jesus's love creates the veneer of a sweet, humble human who does everything (including voting for taking away gay rights and condemning trans people) out of pure goodness and an empathy for humanity rather than the vitriolic disgust it actually is born from.

TheRedSnifit said:
I don't really see an issue with the question in and of itself, or at least the portion in the OP.

If somebody asked "As an evangelical Christian, why do evangelicals support Trump," I think most people would agree it's a fair question.
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You can be Jewish by heritage rather than simply on a religious level. Which is why it's more dodgy.
 
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Corpekata

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"As a “white male Christian,” he complained that people just assume he’s a “racist,""

I think people assume this because you're Curt Schilling.
 
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Anon67

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Curt didn't say anything wrong. Sure maybe he could have stated his question a bit better but I think he had good intentions. I don't think it's a wide assumption to think that a Jew has SOME insight into why Jews side with one party over another. If I was asked this except if it was about Muslims, I'd say the same thing as Tapper but I'd be totally fine, even kinda happy, that someone was actually interested.
 
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FStubbs

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Spectone said:
I don't understand how anyone who professes to follow Jesus could vote for Donald Trump or even the Republican Party. They seem to be the antithesis of the Christian faith and everything Jesus stood for.
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TheRedSnifit said:
I don't really see an issue with the question in and of itself, or at least the portion in the OP.

If somebody asked "As an evangelical Christian, why do evangelicals support Trump," I think most people would agree it's a fair question.
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Because evangelicals are phony and believe in white nationalism with a veneer of "Jesus". It's why they can easily make the mental leap of Donald Trump being "Christian". Do this - ask a rabid evangelical why survey after survey shows that Black people have a higher percentage of practicing Christians than any other ethnic group in this country and yet are even more Democrat than gays. See what their answer is about their so-called fellow Christians, it will be quite enlightening.

This goes all the way back to slavery - the white church was the bedrock bastion of it and even Frederick Douglass wrote that the worst slave owners were white preachers. They propagated garbage like the Curse of Ham (in the Mormon books it was the Curse of Cain) to justify their crap, and it has hurt legitimate Christianity to this day because you have a group of black folks who constantly argue the Bible itself is racist and used to enslave black people when it's not true.

Going back to the main point, evangelicals only do the Israel thing because of the blessing of Abraham "I will bless those who bless you and I will curse those who curse you." I can get into some REALLY controversial and earth shattering things on that, but I'll just say this:

1) Read the Pentateuch closely. Yes, they were given the land of Canaan, but they weren't actually ordered to kill the Canaanites directly, only "drive them out". There were Canaanites who left peacefully and were able to move on.
2) Even the divine order to "drive them out" was rescinded in Judges because they left a large number of them in the land (they put some to tribute, others they gave up on fighting). So, assuming the Palestinians are descendants of the Canaanites (which I admit is itself a controversial subject), then, contrary to what the evangelicals think, they have no divine right to do the things they are doing.
 
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GitarooMan

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He won't even get the Republican nomination for Senate. I can't imagine Charlie Baker enjoys the Mass. GOP getting infiltrated by Schilling.
 
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Alcotholic

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Spectone said:
I don't understand how anyone who professes to follow Jesus could vote for Donald Trump or even the Republican Party. They seem to be the antithesis of the Christian faith and everything Jesus stood for.
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My brother is a born again Christian who believes that no one else is truely chrstian, because they don't actually follow the teachings of Jesus. They just bend his words to whatever they feel it should mean.
 
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King Tubby

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taahahmed said:
Curt didn't say anything wrong. Sure maybe he could have stated his question a bit better but I think he had good intentions. I don't think it's a wide assumption to think that a Jew has SOME insight into why Jews side with one party over another. If I was asked this except if it was about Muslims, I'd say the same thing as Tapper but I'd be totally fine, even kinda happy, that someone was actually interested.
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Yeah I don't see why people are making a huge deal out of this. I mean yeah he's ignorant about...everything but it seemed like he was earnestly asking the question to someone he thought was among the best informed to answer.
 
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Kyzer

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why did OP transliterate "as someone who practices the jewish faith" to "as a jew"? way to sensationalize the hell out of that. guy is an idiot but OP is really milking it

johnsmith said:
Oh my god. The video I watched originally cut off the beginning of it and I totally missed the "i assume as a Jew you're voting Hillary"

That's even worse
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he didnt mention or say jew in that sentence...
 
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