TheThreadsThatBindUs
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The last time a major WRPG dev farmed out a sequel to a AAA major WRPG to a B-Team we got Mass Effect: Andromeda.
....I'm just saying.
....I'm just saying.
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Cyberpunk 2077 Sequel To Be Developed By New US-Based Team CD Projekt Red North America
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akimbo009
Gold Member
This is the way. I've actually held off playing it all for the 4k version, now I'm waiting on this for the expansions.I just want the Witcher 3 enhanced edition.
Just give it to me..
Marcinkowski
Member
kiphalfton
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kiphalfton
Member
Yeah, because what's happening currently is so similar to 1988.
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iQuasarLV
Member
*Anarchy Online has entered the chat.*
The last time I remember a European developer pawing off their floundering IP on an American developer was when FunCom had to milk that dead horse called Anarchy Online in their US office while they worked on Age of Conan. Yeaaa that wasn't a shit show then either. It was only 14 years ago. An eternity in game development. Surely we have learned out lesson since then. Am I right?
The last time I remember a European developer pawing off their floundering IP on an American developer was when FunCom had to milk that dead horse called Anarchy Online in their US office while they worked on Age of Conan. Yeaaa that wasn't a shit show then either. It was only 14 years ago. An eternity in game development. Surely we have learned out lesson since then. Am I right?
gaming_again
Member
Yes it’s so weird that people have noted and are annoyed by a top-down revolution sweeping through the main exporter of western cultural output that renders everything it touches at best gutless and dull and at worst actively hostile to the people interested in it.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Does this mean the gameplay won't suck?
{insert code here}
Member
All the talent has either retired or moved to other industries. This ain't the win they think it is.
zephiross
Member
gaming_again
Member
Virgin CNN/MSNBC viewer vs Chad woke non-enjoyer.
tommib
Banned
You know what really fucks me up? I left Era when Cyberpunk came out because I couldn’t stand how the whole conversation about the game was totally hijacked by their obsession with identity politics and several pseudo-phobias they accused the devs of. It was gross, paranoiac and destructive.
And then, I see the same here. Every game that comes out it’s Woke this, Woke that. I don’t like to see this constant Anti-America thing GAF has going on.
gaming_again
Member
Anti-America? You have the wrong end of the stick completely.
Lots of people are looking on in dismay as America subverts everything that made people fall in love with it in a weird frenzy of self-hatred and destruction.
Why do you think Top Gun 2 was so successful? It was pretty good - maybe even great. But its main selling point was that it was a piece of late-80s America, and the WORLD went crazy for it. We want you guys back, brash and loud and confident. Not this strange twisted mess of apologetica Hollywood etc. has put out for the last decade.
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GymWolf
Member
We can only hope.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
Look....I agree, but shit this game failing in so man areas didn't even "work out" as they are still adding features to make this a complete working game, I don't think this can really hurt and maybe another team should take this over.
If the "core" team remains and the same attitude CDPR has as a publisher remains, I don't think any of this matters. They didn't make a mistake with CP2077...it wasn't on accident that it released broken and it wasn't a accident reviewers couldn't show their own footage and not a mistake when they lied to investors, thus I'm not as worried about the team itself, as much as I'm worried about publisher simply up to their old tricks.
This whole announcing 6 games all at once reeks of some bullshit PR stunt to get investor money.
Wouldn't be the first time they lied to steal money, so I'll believe it when I see it working, running and actual functional game with AI (then again, we still waiting for that AI patch for CP2077 so....lolz)
I'm not saying this will be the same situation, but consider the last Mass Effect titles where great and complete, yet Andromeda was riddled with issues, CP2077 as it is might be even worse then Andromeda as its not just bugs, the core design is literally missing, switched to "action adventure" instead of RPG and stripped of a host of features to be rushed out the door, so maybe a new team won't make this worse, the first game didn't just release perfect, so any fuck ups may not be based on a new team.
Might be based on old management as shit I don't even think all the fuck ups in CP2077-1 is based on the "team" as much as its based on the publisher wanting it hit a date at all cost, hide the state of the game etc. If they still think that way, the sequel being bad might be based on them vs a new team. That is to suggest the old team is even solely responsible for that mess which I actually doubt.
So how this turns out imho is more so based on if the publisher will actually allow them to freely create an actual game this time.
PhillMeCream
Member
Since they're moving to unreal engine, hopefully, there will be quicker development time. I would rather give us the original idea of Night city before they had cut a massive chunk of it.
Dirk Benedict
Member
Keep the dangers away, if you can, CDPR. There is a weakness to developing here. It's other people's opinions who aren't even involved in the development process.
Keep the deets close to your chest and don't reveal until close to release (lol, they won't).
With that said:
Keep the deets close to your chest and don't reveal until close to release (lol, they won't).
With that said:
tvdaXD
Member
They're horrible.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
You know this news came from Investor Relations team? Its not really for us consumers cuz this is a 10+ year plan, only investors really care about that kind of "news".
But you think they are done?
1000+ Employees and expanding to two new studios?
All the core team from CyberPunk and The Witcher are working on the new Cyberpunk and The Witcher.
Even the team working on Canis Majoris are people who left CDPR to start another studio.....just to keep working on more CDPR titles.
Fess
Member
I was at Era too, got banned a month or whatever at CP2077 launch for being excited about the game which apparently wasn’t okay.
GAF is like a haven in comparison. You say it’s woke this and woke that here but that’s the whole western gaming industry, personally I don’t feel like GAF is forcing people’s ideas onto anyone, there may be annoyance whenever there is clear virtue-signaling going on but that’s not just a GAF thing.
akimbo009
Gold Member
I was at Era too, got banned a month or whatever at CP2077 launch for being excited about the game which apparently wasn’t okay.
GAF is like a haven in comparison. You say it’s woke this and woke that here but that’s the whole western gaming industry, personally I don’t feel like GAF is forcing people’s ideas onto anyone, there may be annoyance whenever there is clear virtue-signaling going on but that’s not just a GAF thing.
You got any examples of "woke this", "woke that" in American gaming? Outside weird Twitter PR bullshit, I don't see anything that's made it to games itself - at least nothing egregious.
remember_spinal
Banned
Most likely not as i dont even see this game releasing until next gen
kiphalfton
Member
Maybe they'll also accurately depict road construction; cone off multiple lanes, effectively create an unnecessary bottleneck, and have a bunch of construction workers standing idly nearby while only one person works.
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Fess
Member
I see gender, objectification, race and sexual orientation themes pop up in lots of games. Sometimes it feels natural and sometimes it’s like in Miles Morales where they must’ve included every single minority group in some way or form. Still waiting for a AAA game with a hot swedish blue-eyed blonde girl as the main character though.
lostinblue
Banned
I have nothing against it being developed in America.
Perhaps they can get the Grand Theft Auto vibes right this time.
EDIT: I'm not sure that's the right move for a dev based in Poland though, seems awfully far away and the wages are lower where they are. If I had to guess, perhaps they want to use it as a support team for Unreal Engine 5 projects in the meantime? Dunno.
Perhaps they can get the Grand Theft Auto vibes right this time.
EDIT: I'm not sure that's the right move for a dev based in Poland though, seems awfully far away and the wages are lower where they are. If I had to guess, perhaps they want to use it as a support team for Unreal Engine 5 projects in the meantime? Dunno.
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akimbo009
Gold Member
You're looking too deeply into it, take a breather.
Fess
Member
It’s no biggie tbh but there is no push for these things where I live, so to me it feels like they’re designing characters with a checklist in mind to cater to all possible groups of people.
But maybe it’s the right thing to do though idk, I’m a dark haired (mostly gray now) swedish guy with some sami genes, maybe I should go to Twitter too and demand to get a checkbox.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Well if you find more woke game than Cyberpunk, I would be surprised.Utter woke-fest confirmed then
True they just cut the screeching, but everything in the game is woke as fuck.
Still find it as mistery why ResetEra had a problem with any of that.
Puscifer
Member
You could make a chick with a dick bigger than yours, think wisely before you post.
Fess
Member
Yeah but I think it’s wellmade tbh, prettiest face in the game is a no compromises lesbian, you’ll have to work hard to cuddle with her, but if you’re a man or a woman who’re sporting a dick then sorry she’s only into real lesbian sex. Same deal but inverted with a gay guy.
And for the booty girl everyone is in love with. Manly men only.
You can still be friends though.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Sure the "delivery" is different, does not mean that what I said is weird. Thus generally "wokeness" does not really have a problem political, just the unlikable cunts who preach that.
gaming_again
Member
I don’t agree. I think Cyberpunk depicts a realistic future based around hyper individualism. There is no preaching and lecturing and finger wagging or obvious tickboxing. And hilariously the Claire character is revealed to be a fucking monster.
Justin9mm
Member
This is a good thing!
A big part of why CP2077 ended up the way it was is because their talent was limited vs their ambition of the game. This will allow them to obtain a pool of some really talented developers to achieve what they couldn't at CDPR HQ in Warsaw. You can't expect the best developers to all be living there and it would be hard to get devs from other places to just move there.
Obviously they don't want to rely on outsourcing, that doesn't always work well.
A big part of why CP2077 ended up the way it was is because their talent was limited vs their ambition of the game. This will allow them to obtain a pool of some really talented developers to achieve what they couldn't at CDPR HQ in Warsaw. You can't expect the best developers to all be living there and it would be hard to get devs from other places to just move there.
Obviously they don't want to rely on outsourcing, that doesn't always work well.
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YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Western games: spend 3 hours to mod in some cute eye candy
Asian games: unzip pants
Asian games: unzip pants
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
And alot of the Cyberpunk core team from Poland are moving to the US and Canada.
Plus Mike Pondsmith wont have to fly all the way to Poland.
Is the water in Poland what made them good devs, so them moving to the US will make them worse at developing games?
Slicker than your average
Banned
Made in America doesn't have the same ring to it these dayspeople are mad about an american team making a game based on the future capitalistic dystopia of america?
gaming_again
Member
I dunno. What’s in the water in America that makes people do things like this?
https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/23375149/elden-ring-malenia-fromsoftware-doll-problem
These are the people CDPR will soon be trying to please.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
As long as its the same leads, the same writer/consultant, Im not worried.
The move to the US is for technical talent, not getting new writers or designers, those guys are moving from Poland.
gaming_again
Member
I really hope you are correct. The Witcher 3 totally reignited gaming for me.
As long as its the same leads, the same writer/consultant, Im not worried.
The move to the US is for technical talent, not getting new writers or designers, those guys are moving from Poland.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
You also have to remember that CD Project RED Vancouver is rebranded Digital Scrapes........Digital Scrapes worked on Cyberpunk 2077, thats why CDPR bought them, they already have experience working on Cyberpunk so they are the perfect fit for a studio to keep working with the Cyberpunk team on a sequel.