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D.C. sniper asks for new sentencing in light of Supreme Court rulings on juveniles
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Nah, every once in awhile, while pumping gas into my car, my thoughts drift back to the people these 2 people murdered, while pumping gas into their cars.
Just people minding their own business, doing a mundane task so many of us do, just to get sniped from a distance.
So no, this guy can finish out his sentence.
Just people minding their own business, doing a mundane task so many of us do, just to get sniped from a distance.
So no, this guy can finish out his sentence.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
He's already gotten fifteen years. I don't know how to quantify how much time he should get but I think I'm comfortable with a twenty year sentence. At the moment, he's in prison for life.
Yeah, he claims the guy sexually abused him. There's no way of knowing if it was true. But it's very obvious he was dedicated to the man and gave him complete loyalty.
How do you rehab him more? What are you supposed to do? He sits in solitary and does yoga. He's been doing that for years.
Spoiled Milk
Banned
I agree. Give him work opportunities. Maybe let him earn a college degree. Being a mass murderer, though, it would be near impossible for him to have a life in public.
He would be met with familiar faces of the speculative jobs program. But his only skill was bad art.
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TheRedSnifit
Member
I'm sure he feels bad about it now that he's spending the rest of his life in prison.
We're talking about a guy who murdered 17 people for giggles. "Awww, he seems like such a nice guy now!" doesn't work with psychopaths.
Or you can acknowledge that some peoples' brains to not work like yours and mine. A college degree and work experience is not going to teach a person who murdered 17 random people that other people have value beyond what they can provide to him (in this case, the fun of murdering them). Therapy cannot give you a conscience.
Mammoth Jones
Member
Motherfucker was 17 not 7. FOH. He needs to stay locked up forever.
Yeah, no. Fuck that.
I was in elementary school in the area that this happened and I remember being terrified walking to my bus stop everyday after my parents told me what happened. At such a young age that shit sticks with you forever. Kids stopped showing up to school and I remember my mom was in tears because she didn't want me to go outside.
I was in elementary school in the area that this happened and I remember being terrified walking to my bus stop everyday after my parents told me what happened. At such a young age that shit sticks with you forever. Kids stopped showing up to school and I remember my mom was in tears because she didn't want me to go outside.
old manatee
Banned
Still a minor.
Omegasquash
Member
I was a student at College Park at the time. I remember them having extra security around because of this, and I also had friends that came from areas that they were targeting.
The law is the law, but I will not sign any petition to have his sentencing lessened. I am completely comfortable with my tax dollars helping keep him in prison for the rest of his life.
I think the concept life without parole is an inherently hubristic and I agree with the SCOTUS decision so I don't really see too much of a problem with this.
It wasn't for giggles though, it was part of a terrorist scheme that he was groomed into.
The word "mandatory" in the OP about the Supreme Court ruling is throwing me off.
Was there a mandate that life without parole be given as a sentence to every crime that matches a certain criteria? And does the ruling only eliminate the mandatory part and still allows a judge with his own discretion to issue that same sentence if he deems the crime worthy? Or is this a ruling that removes even the possibility for a judge to issue such a harsh sentence at all?
Was there a mandate that life without parole be given as a sentence to every crime that matches a certain criteria? And does the ruling only eliminate the mandatory part and still allows a judge with his own discretion to issue that same sentence if he deems the crime worthy? Or is this a ruling that removes even the possibility for a judge to issue such a harsh sentence at all?
Hitler's art gets a bad rap. He's got some nice work, better than half the jokers I went to art school with, especially freshman year.
I think reappraising the sentencing based on the Supreme Court ruling makes sense, but there's no way they're going to let him go any time soon.
Man, it's weird to reread all that. Haven't thought much about it since they locked them up but the year it happened in middle school I remember everyone going nuts. I always think about the poor woman shot at the Home Depot I frequent when I go there.
Although it's darkly comic how dumb their plans were, especially the murder totals per day. It's the DC area, if you want to shoot up a bunch of people in a large geographic area pick someplace that doesn't have the third-worst traffic in the country.
A fungible distinction with felony cases for a reason.
He's a convicted serial killer. He should never have a chance to walk free in his life.
Still a mass murderer.
im sorry but you dont rehabilitate someone that had a direct or indirect hand in the murder of 17 people.
Same thing with Anders Breivik, you do something like that you shouldnt be allowed to be free again.
Weird how people are okay with the law.
But want exceptions to it if they don't like the situation it's applied to.
You know what the statue of the maiden holding the scales is blind? Kinda you know represents an important principle of society.
Yeah ok he killed 17 people. So what the rules no longer apply to him? What about 15 then? Or 6? Or 2?
Where is the line?
It's dangerous to set a precedent like this especially in common law. Since it could be used out of context in a different case to get a judge to ignore something that's been deemed unconstitutional.
Anyway I know how GAF is. Someone is going to pick off 1 paragraph of my post on go off on a tangent based on 0 legal knowledge.
But want exceptions to it if they don't like the situation it's applied to.
You know what the statue of the maiden holding the scales is blind? Kinda you know represents an important principle of society.
Yeah ok he killed 17 people. So what the rules no longer apply to him? What about 15 then? Or 6? Or 2?
Where is the line?
It's dangerous to set a precedent like this especially in common law. Since it could be used out of context in a different case to get a judge to ignore something that's been deemed unconstitutional.
Anyway I know how GAF is. Someone is going to pick off 1 paragraph of my post on go off on a tangent based on 0 legal knowledge.
RPGCrazied
Member
Serial killers don't deserve to see the light of day anymore.
RPGCrazied
Member
That killed people?
Yes. If he is indeed rehabilitated, why keep him in prison? It's a waste.
RPGCrazied
Member
That is not an excuse for a serial killer. For someone with a mind to kill people, the mind is already gone.
No 2nd chances for people that ends other people's life.
Sorry but at 17 you aren't a kid and know damn well what you are doing.
Hope he stays locked up and rots in prison.
Bullshit, you're just being vindictive.
Edit: if he's mentally ill or has some other psychological condition, then he should be in a medical facility, not a prison.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Life in prison is nuts, i agree. For killing 17 people they should have been executed.
What did he mean by this?
Member
Ever since the Breivik case, I've firmly believed thats the way the world should be handling these people
And for goodness sake, serial killers arent war criminals or genocidists. Stop with that disingenuous bullshit.
And for goodness sake, serial killers arent war criminals or genocidists. Stop with that disingenuous bullshit.
LinkAndEpona
Banned
I wouldn't agree to releasing him, he was 17 which is old enough to know what he was doing was absolutely wrong.
WordsintheWater
Member
Yeah same here, it was crazy around that time. My mom used to pull me out of school everytime someone was shot. People going to restaurants not want to sit near windows, people pumping gas and laying flat along the back seats or crouched behind the car, people walking zig zag when they were walking to stores. I live 10 min away from where the shoppers is where the one guy got shot and killed. People were terrified to do anything around here, so this guy should rot in prison to never see the light of day.
LinkAndEpona
Banned
Dark ages-logic is cutting off someones hand for stealing. Hell, this guy would have been executed in a very brutal manner if it weren't for modern laws.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
If they want to eventually move this guy to a minimum security facility where he would have better living conditions I would be all for it, but people like him shouldn't be in society.
By that logic, any serial criminal who was abused as a kid should get special consideration, right?
Should we ignore the damage an individual inflicted upon society prior to entering prison as well as the potential damage they might inflict after being released because they had a traumatic upbringing?
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Thank God youre so enlightened and can show us the error of our ways.
He took part in the serial murder of 17 people for sport. If he had any speck of a conscience, killing one person would have driven him to confess and tell on his father. Brainwashing only explains the first murder.
But he kept going through a second and a third and a fourth and a fifth and a sixth and a seventh and an eighth and a ninth and a tenth and an eleventh and a twelfth and a thirteenth and a fourteenth and a fifteenth and a sixteenth and a seventeenth. He stopped because he was caught.
Let him rot.
CraigerGamer
Member
Dude should never be set free.
D.C. was a crazy place to be back then. September 11th, planes into the pentagon, Anthrax being sent through the mail shortly afterward, DC sniper terrorizing people getting gas. All of this within a years time I believe.
D.C. was a crazy place to be back then. September 11th, planes into the pentagon, Anthrax being sent through the mail shortly afterward, DC sniper terrorizing people getting gas. All of this within a years time I believe.
ClosingADoor
Member
The "he was a kid" excuse works for things like shoplifting or maybe beating someone up. It does not work for mass murderers. At 17 you know you should not kill people and if you do, you deserve to be locked away to keep the rest of us safe.
old manatee
Banned
old manatee
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TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Everyone wants rehabilitation in our prison system
Until it's hard
Until it's hard
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