Jet collides with helicopter near D.C.

Has literally nothing to do with her being a woman. This shit happens all the time, weirdly enough watch the first episode of the new The Rehearsal and you'll see a ton of examples (including male pilot being a huge dick about female copilot warnings.)
I don't care about their gender at all. How in the fuck does any pilot not see a large aircraft and not take an evasive turn, dive, correction whatsoever to avoid it. Literally, look out the window and react. It appears they had a long ass time before impact from those videos. SMH.
 
what's miserable is that all the 'so called sexists' were spot on this one.

for the New York Times to write it up this way means it was likely even less favorable to the female pilot.

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How long til Trump suggests a ban on Women in the Army?
His SecDef, Hegseth, wants it. A lot of people do. Women have no special combat powers, but do come with limitations. In admin and support settings those limitations can be compensated for somewhat easily, but in combat roles they are very difficult to overcome. And this doesn't even cover the physical limitations they have, almost none can sustain the level of physical output the average male combat arms warrior does. The "unicorn female athlete" isn't really numerous enough to justify their inclusion.

In the US at least, with (theoretically)millions upon millions of military aged males to draw upon, this is applicable. Obviously a different story in small countries that need a proportionally higher % in military service.
 
His SecDef, Hegseth, wants it. A lot of people do. Women have no special combat powers, but do come with limitations. In admin and support settings those limitations can be compensated for somewhat easily, but in combat roles they are very difficult to overcome. And this doesn't even cover the physical limitations they have, almost none can sustain the level of physical output the average male combat arms warrior does. The "unicorn female athlete" isn't really numerous enough to justify their inclusion.

In the US at least, with (theoretically)millions upon millions of military aged males to draw upon, this is applicable. Obviously a different story in small countries that need a proportionally higher % in military service.
Honestly, if I were the enemy in some hellscape, I'd fight a lot harder knowing there's prizes on the other side. People who think they can impose their special code of ethics when bullets are flying are insane.
 
Can't wait for the next 10 white male accidents to be chalked up to simple pilot error while the next time a female or black pilot dares cock up it is obviously due to DEI. Because that is the level of stupidity we are at now.
 
Can't wait for the next 10 white male accidents to be chalked up to simple pilot error while the next time a female or black pilot dares cock up it is obviously due to DEI. Because that is the level of stupidity we are at now.
Yep the political polarisation has eroded peoples brains.
 

1 - The Black Hawk crew failed to effectively execute the common but sometimes dangerous "flying under see" aviation practice.

2 - The air traffic controller could have given a more urgent warning that the two aircraft were converging.

3 - Technology did not work as intended.

4 - The route the helicopter was flying and the runway the jet was using to land formed a particularly dangerous combination.

5 - The Black Hawk pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot to change course.

Only point 5 was solely the female pilot's fault


"Only the point where the pilot ignored a direct order and steered the vehicle straight into a passenger plane killing 64 people is the pilot's fault, really"
 
There was talk about DEI affecting the flight controllers. I believe it caused a staff shortage because the slots reserved for diversity hires were not able to be filled.

From the beginning though it seemed like it was really the helicopter pilot's fault.
 
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Here in the UK the problem with female pilots wasn't incompetence it was not keeping their legs shut. Wasted millions on training fighter pilots who get pregnant and never did the role.
 
what's miserable is that all the 'so called sexists' were spot on this one.

for the New York Times to write it up this way means it was likely even less favorable to the female pilot.

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All I can say is that more often than not stereotypes come from truths.
 
There was talk about DEI affecting the flight controllers. I believe it caused a staff shortage because the slots reserved for diversity hires were not able to be filled.

From the beginning though it seemed like it was really the helicopter pilot's fault.
I had no doubt it was the helicopter pilots fault
 
Can't wait for the next 10 white male accidents to be chalked up to simple pilot error while the next time a female or black pilot dares cock up it is obviously due to DEI.
DEI isn't about cherry picking anecdotal evidence to try to own the other side.

It's about lowering standards to fill racial quotas which will naturally lead to higher rates of failure.

Set the standard. Take the top applicants. Ignore skin color.
 
Man this thread taken a wild turn. Doesn't the USAF have a shit load of female pilots that are there on merit?

What's DEI about this? Seems like a dipshit garbage pilot fucked up.
 
Here in the UK the problem with female pilots wasn't incompetence it was not keeping their legs shut. Wasted millions on training fighter pilots who get pregnant and never did the role.
Same problem with female prison guards. It's almost like women are attracted to men that are in shape, strange.....🤔
Man this thread taken a wild turn. Doesn't the USAF have a shit load of female pilots that are there on merit?

What's DEI about this? Seems like a dipshit garbage pilot fucked up.
Obviously she was putting on her eye-liner while talking on the VHF, chewing gum, and ignoring her copilot.

But seriously, the argument is that she could have been hired based on lower standards due to her sex and the need to fill a quota, which in turn led to this. The only way to know for sure is if you examine the rates of failure across the board and compare it to previous years. Seems like a no brainer to me though. I mean look at the video. It's all gas and no brakes, straight into the plane.
 
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DEI isn't about cherry picking anecdotal evidence to try to own the other side.

It's about lowering standards to fill racial quotas which will naturally lead to higher rates of failure.

Set the standard. Take the top applicants. Ignore skin color.
Were the standards lowered here? The Pilot had 500 hours of flight time logged so it's not like it was the first time she ever flew a helicopter. You could argue the accident proved she was hired due to lower standards, but that hardly works, considering how many accidents happen across the board.
 
Can't wait for the next 10 white male accidents to be chalked up to simple pilot error while the next time a female or black pilot dares cock up it is obviously due to DEI. Because that is the level of stupidity we are at now.
When a white male pilot screws up it cannot be due to DEI. Also they wouldn't try to obfuscate that it was pilot error or make every excuse under the sun to desperately try and minimise it.
 
When a white male pilot screws up it cannot be due to DEI. Also they wouldn't try to obfuscate that it was pilot error or make every excuse under the sun to desperately try and minimise it.
Nobody is making any excuses or obfuscating anything. The investigation just came out and it's clear that pilot error was the primary cause of the accident. But as with all investigations ever, it was not the only contributing cause. It would be a pretty poor investigation if it didn't list all contributing factors.

Your comment about DEI also just reinforces the issues we face these days. If a white male was the pilot then obviously he obtained that seat due to pure merit, when everyone knows that is not always true. If it was a woman pilot, then obviously DEI, when it's pretty obvious that is not true as well.

The only reason DEI was even mentioned because it would stir up outrage, as this 8 page thread over an accident proves.
 
I don't care about their gender at all. How in the fuck does any pilot not see a large aircraft and not take an evasive turn, dive, correction whatsoever to avoid it. Literally, look out the window and react. It appears they had a long ass time before impact from those videos. SMH.
You're making the assumption that she wanted to miss the plane. I'm not sure that's the case here.
 
If a white male was the pilot then obviously he obtained that seat due to pure merit, when everyone knows that is not always true.
In the rare case a white male somehow avoided having to clear the higher than average standards imposed on them nowadays, it still wouldn't be due to DEI. I'm sure there are cases of nepotism, but it's far more likely that a (young) white male in a role like this these days must have been the absolute cream of the crop to get there.

The only reason DEI was even mentioned because it would stir up outrage...
Or because it is likely to be a factor whenever people belonging to the groups who benefit from 'DEI practices' (race and sex based selection processes) go on to be involved in an incident like this. It is likely they would not have been in the position to cause the incident in the first place if not for the DEI thumb on the scales. That suspicion -and people being wary of DEI pilots, DEI doctors etc- will exist so long as those practices exist, and unfortunately probably even for decades after they stop, because the damage is already done.
 
In the rare case a white male somehow avoided having to clear the higher than average standards imposed on them nowadays, it still wouldn't be due to DEI. I'm sure there are cases of nepotism, but it's far more likely that a (young) white male in a role like this these days must have been the absolute cream of the crop to get there.
The majority of Army pilots are white men. And well, it seems to be an organizational issue going on at the moment.


Out of all of those Apache crashes that were due to pilot error, none were women.


Oh look, a white male pilot. I guess the crop was a bit bad that year.
 
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