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D23: The Incredibles 2 new info

JordanN

Banned
They better finally explain why all the supervillains up and disappeared after the heroes retired. That's always bugged me.

Bomb Voyage?
And Syndrome was capable of killing superheroes, so maybe they decided to lie low till he was gone? Hence The Underminer showing up at the end.
 

PSqueak

Banned
They better finally explain why all the supervillains up and disappeared after the heroes retired. That's always bugged me.

I assumed the Government got so super hardcore on punishing super crime that most of them decided to go off the radar.
 

Blues1990

Member
They better finally explain why all the supervillains up and disappeared after the heroes retired. That's always bugged me.

I just assumed that, like with the heroes, the government had forced the super villains to either go into hiding or retire. Besides, you can move into the world of finance and continue criminal activities, but without the burden of wearing a cape & cowl.

And without a hero counterpart to eagerly show up, they simply 'won' by default (in a way indistinguishable from losing) and closed up shop.
 
I always thought we would do a time jump and Brad would center on the elements of kids growing up and separating from their parents, mixing that with how to still be a super hero.

I find it too safe it start from the underminer portion and surprised that brad bird actually decided that after the heavy family elements of the firts movie. The characters will not have time to evolve from were we left them as family by starting from there, so im a little bit dissapointed about that.

Good about the elastigirl change with bob having to stay in the house, so im interested to see how they work out that.

Jack jack being front center and still a baby is not exciting though.

Still, the incredibles is my favourite 3d animated movie and brad bird one if my favourite directors, so im there day one and im sure they are going to make sonething great.

How much Randian ideology will be in this one?
Oh shut up.
Im still find surprising that some people found the clrealy inocent message of positivity and kids choosing their dreams and making the world better like disney wanted with the imagineers and alegory to that fucking piece of shit.
 

WaffleTaco

Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
I haven't sent the original in so long, I immediately assumed that elastigirl was referring to the daughter and was thinking...I didn't think the daughter had the same powers as the mom, then I remembered that elastigirl was the mom...

Yeah, I really hope they change elastigirl to elastiwoman or elastilady. She has 3 kids, she's not some teeny bopper.


Also: if anyone is considered about Dash sounding different, they had to the same thing for Finding Dory, in regards to Nemo...
Nemo's original voice actor was Shane Boswin from Weeds.
 
Actually having Elastigirl have her own midlife crisis would make a lot of sense. While she's level-headed enough to be there for her kids I'm sure "leave the crime fighting to men? I don't think so." Elastigirl still has some tension there.
 
I haven't sent the original in so long, I immediately assumed that elastigirl was referring to the daughter and was thinking...I didn't think the daughter had the same powers as the mom, then I remembered that elastigirl was the mom...

Yeah, I really hope they change elastigirl to elastiwoman or elastilady. She has 3 kids, she's not some teeny bopper.


Also: if anyone is considered about Dash sounding different, they had to the same thing for Finding Dory, in regards to Nemo...
Nemo's original voice actor was Shane Boswin from Weeds.

I think it's believable that she's Elastigirl. She could've started getting into hero work at a young age, used "girl," and stuck with it.
 
Oh shut up.
Im still find surprising that some people found the clrealy inocent message of positivity and kids choosing their dreams and making the world better like disney wanted with the imagineers and alegory to that fucking piece of shit.

The family goes Galt and humanity must learn to stop holding back society's greatest.



Y'all never heard of Brad Bird's films being infused with lots of Randian, Objectivism, and Libertarian ideology?

edit: Fixed my link. It's actually an article arguing against the claims, but it features briefly many quotes from various critics where you can read their thoughts if you like.
 
It being set right after the first is pretty disappointing

Not doing a timeskip is disappointing. Elastigirl being the lead is awesome!

Dunno why ya'll wanted a time skip. I don't want a 15 year jump with a decrepit Bob or Helen wandering around while the focus is on their uninteresting kids. Helen's still in her prime, and nothing interests me more than seeing her star in the sequel as the last film just left her.
 
Dunno why ya'll wanted a time skip. I don't want a 15 year jump with a decrepit Bob or Helen wandering around while the focus is on their uninteresting kids. Helen's still in her prime, and nothing interests me more than seeing her star in the sequel as the last film just left her.

50-55 is "decrepit"? :p

I know the reason I wanted a time skip was that I really wanted Jack Jack to be an actual character. The movie/Jack Jack Attack basically implies he's potentially the most powerful Super ever, and I thought they could do something really interesting with a 10-15-year-old Jack Jack coming to terms with being that powerful.

But that doesn't mean I don't think the story will be good otherwise. I have a ton of faith in the team. That's just what I had been imagining all these years.
 
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Deleted member 465307

Unconfirmed Member
Aside from this does anyone know what Pixar has coming? Toy Story 4 I guess which eh

Coco (2017), this (2018), Toy Story 4 (2019), the new suburban fantasy movie they just announced (20??), and then I think it's unknown beyond that.
 

Goodstyle

Member
I really hope this film gets a villain on the level of Syndrome. I have a feeling that it's going to be the ex-boyfriend villain that almost was the antagonist in the first film.
 
I had kinda hope for a focus on the kids, as I felt the first focused more on Helen after Bob gets captured.

I can't complain much though, her as the main lead can bring a lot.
 

Toothless

Member
This sounds great. Sure, no time jump was initially a disappointment, but the family discovering Jack Jack's powers is a logical extension of the first film, plus Elastigirl focus is a great idea.
 
I had kinda hope for a focus on the kids, as I felt the first focused more on Helen after Bob gets captured.

I can't complain much though, her as the main lead can bring a lot.
I'm sure the focus will be on the entire family including Jack-Jack. I don't know if the word "lead" is accurate to describe Helen's role unless they are referring to one specific plot element that no one knows about. All that was said was "Here is some concept of Elastigirl doing the work while Bob is a stay-at-home dad" then a clip of the latter was shown.
 
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/...ibles_director_brad_bird_s_key_influence.html

Y'all never heard of Brad Bird's films being infused with lots of Randian, Objectivism, and Libertarian ideology?

edit: Fixed my link. It's actually an article arguing against the claims, but it features briefly many quotes from various critics where you can read their thoughts if you like.

Of course i heard it, it was all over the internet when tomorrowland was released, and its as fucking bullshit now as it was then.
I also knew about the article you posted and as I said im 100 percent with it. His movies are based in the ideologies of the creative parts of Walt Disney and his team of imagineers, not the scumbag of Ayn Rand.
Its like some people didnt get the message on plain site of ratatouille or Tomorrowland. The movies are not about great individuals that are forced to stay down by "inferior" people. Its about not all people can be incredible creative people (and thats not bad) but that amazing creative people can come from anywhere.
The most Ayn Rand you can see in tomorrowland is the villain, and he is the VILLAIN. At the end, the kids from all around the world dreaming of being creative people in different fields is a message a thick as brick that the movie is talking about walt's imagineers to inspire kids all around the world.

And as the article clearly says, so first Bird is a communist because of the iron giant, and now a libertarian? Someone tell some critics to choose one or the othee and stick to it.
 
Dunno why ya'll wanted a time skip. I don't want a 15 year jump with a decrepit Bob or Helen wandering around while the focus is on their uninteresting kids. Helen's still in her prime, and nothing interests me more than seeing her star in the sequel as the last film just left her.

I want Jack Jack to be something after the ending of the first film.
 

FyreWulff

Member
I really want to see what Pixar could achieve with re-rendering one of their old films. A headache I'm sure, but I'd be curious to see the results of new lighting and shading without necessarily changing too many assets. They could leave the animation and just add extra props for example.

I think the whole tooling pipeline of movies has changed so much that they'd basically have to rebuild the entire movie from scratch anyway if they wanted modern features in it
 
I think the whole tooling pipeline of movies has changed so much that they'd basically have to rebuild the entire movie from scratch anyway if they wanted modern features in it

I could be mistaken but isn't this what they said they had to do for Toy Story 3? Re-do every model from scratch using the original movie as reference?
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Coco (2017), this (2018), Toy Story 4 (2019), the new suburban fantasy movie they just announced (20??), and then I think it's unknown beyond that.
The following two movies are supposed to be originals as well.
 

FyreWulff

Member
I could be mistaken but isn't this what they said they had to do for Toy Story 3? Re-do every model from scratch using the original movie as reference?

yeah. even game rendering has meant you can't really directly import assets from old stuff into new engines because the whole way of building it has changed.

like for example earlier stuff was moving animation bones around. Worked for the time, in both movies and gaming. Now you have muscle simulation, weight simulation, physical rendering, a completely different way of doing fast light rendering, etc. And you can't just ignore those features when trying to bring legacy content up, you have to rebuild them to be compatible with the new concepts.

Another example is Halo Wars. Captain Cutter changed completely between Halo Wars 1 and Halo Wars 2 CGI, which were 8 years apart:

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(2 on left, 1 on right)

Because Blur's entire setup has evolved and changed so much they can't even re-render the original Halo Wars assets anymore and have a completely new way of building humans and other things in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjdwSIWrVsE 1's first commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjN1eWhzPeA 2's first commercial
 
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