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Dad forces son to skip beach trip w/ friends. All beach-bound friends die in crash.

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NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. (AP) — Tamer Mosallam was supposed to get picked up on Memorial Day for a trip to the beach with friends, but his father had other ideas and the carload of teens left him behind.

It would be the last time the 17-year-old would see his friends alive. The five teens — two boys and three girls — died late Monday afternoon in a fiery wreck that left the car they were riding in split in two and engulfed in flames. Among the victims were two of Mosallam's closest friends and a pair of sisters who had performed in a high school dance extravaganza over the holiday weekend.

"I was supposed to be with them in the car, that's why there were three girls," Mosallam said, explaining that he was to have been the third boy for a three-way double date. "They came to my house but my dad wouldn't let me go out because I was studying for a test."

A visibly shaken Mosallam and several dozen other students from Irvine Unified School District, where all the victims were enrolled, gathered outside Irvine High School on Tuesday to try to make sense of the tragedy.

Police said speed was a factor in the single-car wreck on a busy, six-lane surface street and the investigation was ongoing.

The driver was identified as 17-year-old Abdulrahman Alyahyan, a senior at University High School.

The passengers included 17-year-old Robin Cabrera, a senior at Irvine High, and her 16-year-old sister Aurora, a sophomore at the same school.

Also killed in the Monday crash were Cecilia Zamora and Nozad Al Hamawendi, both 17-year-old juniors at Irvine High.

There was no class Tuesday because it was a teacher development day but counselors would be on hand Wednesday, said Ian Hanigan, a spokesman for the Irvine Unified School District.

"There are simply no words to convey the sorrow felt by our students and staff, nor are there sufficient answers to explain the loss of five vibrant teenagers from our schools and this community," Irvine Unified School District Superintendent Terry Walker said in a statement.

The families of Zamora and Alyahyan declined to comment when reached by the AP. Families of the other teens could not be reached for comment.

Friends who gathered Tuesday outside Irvine High said the five were headed to the beach for a fun Memorial Day when the tragedy unfolded on a busy thoroughfare that connects Orange County's interior network of freeways with the famed Pacific Coast Highway and its beaches.

Authorities said the wreck was one of the worst in Newport Beach in recent memory and left two of the victims' bodies so damaged the coroner had to rely on fingerprints to identify them. The car hit a tree in the median, shearing it of its bark and leaving deep gouges in the trunk.

The Cabrera sisters were both accomplished dancers in the school's dance program, friends said. They had performed in a three-day recital over Memorial Day weekend, said Brie Martinez, 15.

"(Aurora Cabrera) was kind of nervous for her dance but I heard she did really good," said Martinez, as she began to cry.

"I saw something about the crash on the news last night, but I never would have guessed it was them," she added.

Zamora was also in the dance program and performed over the weekend, said her friend, Paloma Douglas, a junior at the school.

Douglas last saw Zamora on Friday afternoon, when the two attended the same history class — the last course of their day.

"She was sitting next to me, so it's going to be tough seeing that empty seat," said Douglas.

Friends said Alyahyan, the driver, was obsessed with his Infiniti sedan, given to him by his older brother, and spent hours working on it and driving it around with his best friend, Al Hamawendi.

"Abdul loved cars. He took care of his car as if it was a human being," said Ibrahim Razzak, a junior.

The two boys were inseparable and were part of a larger group of about 10 close friends who were either first- or second-generation immigrants from various Middle Eastern countries, said Zach Darwish, an 18-year-old senior at University High who was also close friends with the two boys. The teens all spoke Arabic together when they hung out, which was constantly, he said.


Alyahyan came to Irvine from Saudi Arabia about three years ago, said Mohamad Abdul Razzak, a 16-year-old junior and close friend who also arrived in the U.S. last year from Lebanon.

He played excellent soccer, but wasn't on the school team, and planned to attend community college next fall.

Al Hamawendi came to Irvine two years ago with his family from Iraq, Abdul Razzak said.

He was obsessed with weight-lifting, worked out every day and had been on the wrestling team.

"We're all like one big group of friends. We all love each other, we're all like brothers. It seems like the circle has just broken apart," Darwish said.

"I still can't believe this actually happened to good friends of mine," he said. "It's the worst news you can possibly get."
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He was forced by dad to not go and study instead, and that saved his life basically. Damn.

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Edit 2: The driver didn't have a driver's license or a driving permit

http://news.yahoo.com/driver-calif-crash-killed-5-unlicensed-221123959.html
The young man identified by a coroner as the driver in a single-car crash that killed five teenagers did not have a driver's license or a learner's permit, California DMV officials said Wednesday.


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akira28

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Can you imagine? Because I can imagine what was on his mind before going. The trip of a lifetime for a young kid. And then to have his life saved by the randomness. It's just...I know that father feels so relieved right now.
 

injurai

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That's awful RIP.

I will say though that the chances of that still happening, with the additional person would be very slim. Events would have transpired differently.
 
Damn, that's tragic.

My mind always wonders in situations like this that if he had gone, could his presence have changed one small thing which would have prevented the accident?

edit: beaten on that thought
 

Korey

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How does this even happen? I smell an epic lawsuit.

If he had gone though the exact sequence of events wouldn't have happened and so there likely wouldn't have been a crash, so the dad didn't save one life he killed five

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-irvine-newport-crash-dead-20130530,0,2766380.story

They crashed into a tree at 100mph.

An Irvine teenager who lost control of his car and crashed into a tree in Newport Beach, killing himself and four passengers, may have been going as fast as 100 mph, a Newport Beach city official said.

Alyahyan lost control and the Infiniti drove head-on into a tree in the road&#8217;s median, splitting the car in two and killing Alyahyan and his four passengers...

Police said they have not determined how fast the vehicle was going at the time, but Newport Beach Mayor Keith Curry told the Daily Pilot he heard it may have been upward of 100 mph.

So it's possible they crashed due to reckless driving by the driver. So I'd say the kid did dodge a bullet.
 
If he had gone though the exact sequence of events wouldn't have happened and so there likely wouldn't have been a crash, so the dad didn't save one life he killed five

...Maybe. They could have arguably left faster, if they had been waiting for him. Or slower. Either could have...

That's not important, though.

It's depressing to think that's how quick life can go. And that randomly.

And on a sort of side note, we *really* need self-driving cars.
 

Conor 419

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If he had gone though the exact sequence of events wouldn't have happened and so there likely wouldn't have been a crash, so the dad didn't save one life he killed five

Nobody was killed and nobody was saved, what happened here is tragic.

God damn do I feel bad for that kid, doubtless he wishes he died with them.
 
Nobody was killed and nobody was saved, what happened here is tragic.

God damn do I feel bad for that kid, doubtless he wishes he died with them.

Oh, I doubt that based on his reaction. I imagine he's wishing they just didn't die.

Speaking of death, I've always wondered - does your mind slow down your perception of time when you're about to die? Can you see it coming and not react? Is there time for last thoughts?
 
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-irvine-newport-crash-dead-20130530,0,2766380.story

They crashed into a tree at 100mph.



So it's possible they crashed due to reckless driving by the driver. So I'd say the kid did dodge a bullet.

People drive recklessly all the time but crashes only happen in specific circumstances, if the other guy had been there then the specific circumstances will have changed and thus the crash would have been unlikely to happen (at least this time)
 

ohNOitsRO

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Sigh this is incredibly sad, but what was that kid doing going 100.... So irresponsible, and he killed 4 of his friends.. Smh young drivers sigh...
 
It's a tragedy, a loss of life that early always hurts. Five teens who won't see their 20th birthdays...incredibly sad.

I'm not pointing fingers, but I see that the kid driving was born and raised in Saudi Arabia. Saudis are amongst the worst and most dangerous drivers in the world- they are seriously insane on the road. Some of that must have rubbed off.
 

CrazyDude

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People drive recklessly all the time but crashes only happen in specific circumstances, if the other guy had been there then the specific circumstances will have changed and thus the crash would have been unlikely to happen (at least this time)

That's assuming that it would have changed anything relating to crash. There is a 1000 of ways this could have gone making the whole argument pointless.
 

Madness

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If he had gone though the exact sequence of events wouldn't have happened and so there likely wouldn't have been a crash, so the dad didn't save one life he killed five

You can say that about anything though. The dad didn't kill five people. There is no alternate reality or final destination shit. The kid didn't go. He wasn't meant to go. The only 'timeline' here is that 5 friends were killed in a crash.

You could speculate anything...
 
Sigh this is incredibly sad, but what was that kid doing going 100.... So irresponsible, and he killed 4 of his friends.. Smh young drivers sigh...

I know my dumb ass did it when I was that age, some make it to learn and some dont. Sadly the driver and the rest didnt =/
 

antonz

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Oh, I doubt that based on his reaction. I imagine he's wishing they just didn't die.

Speaking of death, I've always wondered - does your mind slow down your perception of time when you're about to die? Can you see it coming and not react? Is there time for last thoughts?

I don't know if it slows down per say but there is a pretty vivid realization that shits about to happen that might very well kill you.

In my younger days near my house was a long stretch of road and having a sports car id go way too fast since it was a stretch of nothingness. One time I was going about 125 and someone pulled out in front of me a few hundred feet down. Everything was ok as I went to go around them then they cut in front of me in the other lane and at that point going 125 I was already on top of them so swerving to miss them I ended up spinning down the road doing doughnuts for about 200-300 feet.

Have to tell you it was the scariest shit in the world ended up stopping probably 10 feet from a electric pole. Totally my fault for going those speeds but the guy was a deliberate asshole too cutting me off
 

jediyoshi

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I'm not pointing fingers, but I see that the kid driving was born and raised in Saudi Arabia. Saudis are amongst the worst and most dangerous drivers in the world- they are seriously insane on the road. Some of that must have rubbed off.

Citation needed. Preferably ones that aren't liveleak videos.
 

Madness

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Even just the act of the other guy getting into the car would have meant a whole different chain of events leading to them not being in the same spot in the road at the exact time

But you don't get it. This isn't final destination. The kid wasn't meant to go. Our timeline is that this kid didn't go on the trip, so it's irrelevant. I don't know why you bring it up.

If the driver took a longer piss before he left it would have changed them being in the same spot. They could have done anything else differently and it would have changed it.
 
Wouldn't the Weight of the extra person in the car effect the acceleration of the vehicle, I mean just for discussions sake if he had been in the car its possible they could be alive still.
 
Even just the act of the other guy getting into the car would have meant a whole different chain of events leading to them not being in the same spot in the road at the exact time
I think you're reading too much into wikipedia article about butterfly effects, or you just learned about it.

3 pretty girls, 2 best friend, 1 souped up car, fast driver (100 mph insanity) = disaster waiting to happen.
 
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