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Dad forces son to skip beach trip w/ friends. All beach-bound friends die in crash.

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CrazyDude

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Even just the act of the other guy getting into the car would have meant a whole different chain of events leading to them not being in the same spot in the road at the exact time

But would it make that big a difference. You can say that him getting in the car only made the car crash into the tree slightly more to the left or right.
 

Clydefrog

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Awful way to die, too. Burned alive. Hopefully, they were all knocked out by the impact.

Two of the remains were unrecognizable except for fingerprints, so I think it was probably a quick death to say the least. RIP. Tragic.

Some of the bodies were identified via fingerprinting? Their fingerprints were on file?

Not necessarily. Coroner/police could have collected fingerprints from their home or something to compare.
 

Mudkips

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If he had gone though the exact sequence of events wouldn't have happened and so there likely wouldn't have been a crash, so the dad didn't save one life he killed five

The crash wasn't a random occurrence. The driver caused it. No other vehicle was involved.
It's very likely that it would have still happened.
 
Wouldn't the Weight of the extra person in the car effect the acceleration of the vehicle, I mean just for discussions sake if he had been in the car its possible they could be alive still.

Sure. Infinity going 0-60 in 5 seconds would have gone 0-60 in 4.9 seconds.
 
How exactly does one crash into a tree like that? Nobody else was harmed (unless I missed that in the OP) which is pretty amazing unless they were like the only car on the road.
 
Reminds me of a story my aunt told me that her girl wanted to go to a party, but my aunt did not let her, two days later my cousin hears that the girls were drugged and rapped.
 

Prologue

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The crash wasn't a random occurrence. The driver caused it. No other vehicle was involved.
It's very likely that it would have still happened.

For all we know, the kid would have been the smart one out of the group and told the driver to slow down.
 

Kisaya

Member
God my mom is going to use this against me whenever she doesn't want me out.

And they're Arab too, fuck.

Really upset about this though, no one deserves to die like that so young. A shame that the driver wasn't as disciplined as the friend who missed out. I've gotten rides from guys who think its funny and even impressive to drive so reckless and it only makes me not get in their car ever again.
 

Jaffaboy

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It's a tragedy that people so young have lost their lives but whose to say that if he had gone that the car would have definitely crashed?
 
How exactly does one crash into a tree like that? Nobody else was harmed (unless I missed that in the OP) which is pretty amazing unless they were like the only car on the road.

He was supposedly speeding 100 mph+. The police are saying he lost control and slammed through a tree. Also I found this:

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Zeus Molecules

illegal immigrants are stealing our air
good parenting by having his son stay home to study ending up saving his son's life. He is lucky to have a good father.
 

Ollie Pooch

In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
100 mph into a tree. That's gotta be like flipping a switch off.
They would have been completely obliterated.

I have to stop reading these kind of stories - this and that elevator thing yesterday are kind of subconsciously haunting and disturbing, beyond the initial horror factor. Not a good way to start the day.
 

Redford

aka Cabbie
I tend not to overthink things like this. They could have just as easily had to stop for him (living guy) to take a piss or something and it would have never happened. Too many variables.
 

Mudkips

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For all we know, the kid would have been the smart one out of the group and tell the driver to slow down.

And it's equally as likely that he would have said "LOL GO FASTER!".

There is a greater chance of him encouraging the reckless behavior or not speaking out against it or speaking out against it to no effect than there is of him preventing the crash.

The driver deliberately drove like a moron because that's what he liked doing. He killed himself and 4 other people because of his shitty decisions, not because of some butterfly effect bullshit.
 

Thorakai

Member
Isn't there some limitation on teenage drivers getting behind the wheel with so many passengers in the same age? After a certain point there has to be someone that is 21 years old if I remember correctly. It is a tragedy that this happened, but going 100 mph wasn't gonna impress anyone and should not have been teased with so many lives in your hand. Good thing at least one life was spared.

Edit: Just saw he didn't even have a permit. Wow. Who are the parents that let their kids go off alone like that under those conditions?
 

duckroll

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From the words of the survivor himself:

At least one of Alyahyan's friends, Tamer Mosallam, felt the Infiniti was a bit too much for such a young driver.

Mosallam was to have been the sixth teen on the beach outing, but backed out after his father ordered him to stay home and study for a test, he said.

"The car was too powerful for him. I've been in the car with him and I've driven it too," Mosallam told the AP. "It's not really a car that kids should be driving."

Yeah, this sounds like it was an accident waiting to happen, and it's really sad that no one else stepped in before it was too late. :(
 

Korey

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People drive recklessly all the time but crashes only happen in specific circumstances, if the other guy had been there then the specific circumstances will have changed and thus the crash would have been unlikely to happen (at least this time)

The point is that the driver was a dangerous driver (allegedly), and the kid wouldn't have been safe riding with him either way.

Yes, they could've avoided that specific crash. Maybe they would have been lucky enough to make it home. Maybe they would've crashed into the wall next to that tree at 120mph. Point is, he wouldn't have been safe with that driver.

RIP to the kids that died, it's a tragedy.
 

FStop7

Banned
Heard about this wreck, sounds like they were driving crazy. I'm pretty sure the founder of Tapout died on the same stretch of road.
 

$200

Banned
He was supposedly speeding 100 mph+. The police are saying he lost control and slammed through a tree.

Damn, look at the way the car ended up. Those teens were possibly split into pieces too....

I feel bad for the passengers but can't say the same for the driver. Do they check if the driver was drink driving for accidents like this?
 
Could the driver's parents be sued? They had to know he was driving the car without a license.

Oh don't you worry about that, there's gonna be lawsuits out the ass on this. A few years ago we had a similar incident here in Jacksonville. A group of teens (the driver did not have a license I recall) skipped school to go to the beach and everyone in the SUV died when the driver wrecked. I need to lookup what the end result on that was. There were lawsuits against and from just about all parties.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
That's a shitty way to go.

I don't know anything about the car they were driving, but is it a kind of car that is able to be reliably driven at those speeds?
 

Hale-XF11

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I was in a car that hit a tree head on doing about 30 MPH and it totaled the entire front end. I guess it wouldn't surprise me that going any faster would completely obliterate the entire vehicle and everything and everyone inside it.
 
That's crazy. Lucky kid to not have gone.

It could be argued that the by him going it would have averted the wreck though. It doesn't take much to change history.
 
Imagine if he had gone with them, would they still have wrecked? Could him being in the car have changed the dynamics of the social interaction between the people in the car, changing the time that the driver got distracted at? Would this kid have altered just one of the set of extremely random and unlucky circumstances that led the driver to run into the tree?
 

Jacob

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He was supposedly speeding 100 mph+. The police are saying he lost control and slammed through a tree. Also I found this:

Jesus Christ, there's a traffic light sign in the background. I assumed they must have been on a highway, but this kid was doing 100 mph going on a road with traffic lights?

Also, WTF @ the kid not having a license or permit. Stupid and tragic.
 

Metalmarc

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Wah, i just put final destination 3 on film 4+1 here in the uk, and it's on the ad break, and the top story in OT is like a real life final destination are you kidding me :eek:
 

Rubbish King

The gift that keeps on giving
Wow that sucks, impossible to say that he saved his life, like the butterfly effect, there is no possible way you could know if they would've crashed if he had got in the car
 
Whenever I hear stories like this I always think of the countless times my friends and I as teenagers did incredibly reckless things with motor vehicles and how many times over I could (and should) be dead.
 
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