Knuckle Sandwich
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Because he's one of the greatest of all time and even though he's lost a lot the movie will still probably be better than anything else she does.
Im sorry but your second sentence is naive as fuck lolI never got why woody Allen is always assumed to be guilty. If he was, he would've been charged and found guilty.
Not really, most big (White) actors want to work with Woody Allen. He writes and directs all of his movies. How exactly did Cate Blanchett help him more in this scenario.
i think that's pretty silly. the film will probably be listed as one of the highlights of blanchett's entire career, but for allen it's at best one of better ones he made at the tail end of his.
Blue Jasmine is one of the highest acclaimed of Woody's movies in like the last 25 years (and one of few Woody movies to actually be acclaimed over that same time period), largely if not entirely because of Blue Jasmine. Was his directing or writing just exceptionally better on that movie? Or was Blanchett's performance just exceptionally better than most of his leading men and women over the past couple decades?
Not to say he had nothing to do with Blue Jasmine being as good as it was, but Cate Blanchett is the main if not only reason that movie is held up as a great late period Woody Allen movie in the first place.
Yes, let's act like Woody wasn't just coming off his universally critically acclaimed Midnight in Paris in 2011 and his highest grossing movie ever
Well he wasn't. He was coming off To Rome With Love! :lol
I'm not pushing any narrative, I love Woody Allen's stuff. I never said he *needed* Cate Blanchett, I'm just saying Blanchett's contribution to Blue Jasmine (i.e. basically the whole movie) was a bigger bump to the reputation of Woody Allen's 2010s filmography than he was to Cate Blanchett's 2010s filmography.
Allen is one of the last chance to play in a movie for adults only, that is rare
(White) Actors are willing to take paycuts in order to work with him because he's a legend and among the small group of White male directors that these big name actors will go out there way to work with.
Why are you being specific about white actors willing to take paycuts to work with him? Do we know of any non-white actor not wanting to work with him? I feel like there's a point here that I'm missing.
To answer the title, because he didn't do anything wrong?!
I point it out because these White male directors pretty much only make white narrative films with all white casts especially Woody Allen. These opportunities for actors are only for the White ones.
Are you offended at me pointing out facts?
Oh yes, I'm terribly offended lol. I just thought it was a weird thing to be specific about and it felt like I was perhaps missing something.
I never got why woody Allen is always assumed to be guilty. If he was, he would've been charged and found guilty.
A better question would be why anyone would ever work with Roman Polanski again.
Probably because he started hooking up with his then-girlfriend's ~19 year-old daughter while in his 50s, after a lifetime of making movies with elements of "Woody Allen self-insert bangs a teenage girl" strung through them.
Shit's sketchy. Makes you take those sort of allegations seriously even if, as noted, he's been acquitted in the eyes of the law.
And in fairness he's been married to said girlfriend's daughter for like 20 years now, so, I mean, not exactly predatory behavior.
I didn't know, because my intent wasn't meant to offend. However it's just something that needs to be pointed out about the privilege of being a working White actor in this industry. There are so many directors, that people of color actors know they'll probably never work with no matter how acclaimed or great they are and how the business is set up for White actors to succeed.
you could literally apply most of the posts in this thread to answer that question as well
That's very fair, my question was also legit because I thought maybe there was some controversy that I was missing. And yeah Woody Allen movies are white as fuck but I always thought that was due to the fact that he's the one creative force behind them and he's white as fuck so probably he doesn't feel comfortable writing racially diverse characters. Here's a perfect example of what could go wrong if you do that.
And on your point, I agree with you but I think it's a problem that is getting better. When Woody came around for instance you had Sidney Poitier and blaxploitation movies being the 2 biggest things most people were aware about involving black people in movies. 20-30 years later, the highest-grossing actor of all time was for a while a black dude and you have increasingly leading roles featuring racially diverse people. So I think the entertainment industry as a whole is showing some very clear signals of improvement and I don't see any reason for pessimism.
Woody Allen is one of the greatest filmmakers alive. It seems natural that most actors would love to go through one of his movies, even if it's his lesser works.
You've conflated and reduced a whole lot of things into a very simplified it's getting better. LOL The whole reason blaxploitation films existed and all black films exist to this day is due to how exclusionary Hollywood films have been and still are despite how impactful and influential African American culture has been to American culture.
For the bolded, Did you just use the Obama argument? LOL
Well there's 1 thing he definitely did and 1 thing he was accused of doing.
He definitely started an affair with his wife's very young adopted daughter, his step daughter I believe, which ended up ruining his family in many ways.
He was accused of molesting his own daughter.
But it is getting better. I mean, there are only 3 options here: getting better, getting worse or being the same. We've moved on from blaxploitation movies to a fuckton of movies featuring black people in lead roles. Which of the answers is more likely?
For the bolded, you said "the business is set up for White actors to succeed" and yes, white actors still have a much easier time than black actors. But the representation issues in the industry are getting better, they're far from ideal but you can see a clear evolution in the trends regarding it. I apparently used the "Obama argument" to say that nowadays you could name a lot of non-white actors or gigantic movies featuring them in a leading role to a much higher degree than you could 20-30 years ago, heck even 10 years ago. Like I said, reasons for optimism.
Yes, but it still doesn't address my original argument, which is in regards to Woody Allen and other great prolific directors like him who are legends in the industry but who's whole filmography are still White narratives with all White casts because he's not the only one. I could name a whole host of them. Matter of fact, the Black actors already know. LOL
Now i'm not saying they need to change, however it needs to be pointed out, because they continued to play a role in why the industry is the way it is.
It's why other people of color besides Black actors have it worse.
so strange how this article highlights R Kelly's child molestation claims bearing weight, but not Woody Allen's
Why does anyone cast Selena Gomez? When did she prove she can act?
You could work with Bill Cosby in good conscience this way.
She proved she's incredibly famous and attractive.
It's calculated. You get more avenues of a successful career working with a pedophile than passing up the opportunity. Enough people, even in this thread, don't believe the allegations at all.
Yes, but it still doesn't address my original argument, which is in regards to Woody Allen and other great prolific directors like him who are legends in the industry but who's whole filmography are still White narratives with all White casts because he's not the only one. I could name a whole host of them. Matter of fact, the Black actors already know. LOL
Now i'm not saying they need to change, however it needs to be pointed out, because they continued to play a role in why the industry is the way it is.
It's why other people of color besides Black actors have it worse.
Probably because he started hooking up with his then-girlfriend's ~19 year-old daughter while in his 50s, after a lifetime of making movies with elements of "Woody Allen self-insert bangs a teenage girl" strung through them.
Shit's sketchy. Makes you take those sort of allegations seriously even if, as noted, he's been acquitted in the eyes of the law.
And in fairness he's been married to said girlfriend's daughter for like 20 years now, so, I mean, not exactly predatory behavior.
Woody has been writing and directing a movie a year for decades and has no trouble getting funding. (White) Actors are willing to take paycuts in order to work with him because he's a legend and among the small group of White male directors that these big name actors will go out there way to work with.
If it wasn't Cate Blanchett, he'd have gotten another A list actress to play the role and potentially receive the accolades. That's why they work with him.
Yeah, having a consensual relationship with another adult.
Veeeeeeeeeeeery sketchy.
So the part of Allen fooling around with the adopted _daughter_ of the woman he was in a committed relationship with doesn't phase you whatsoever? What role do you think Allen filled in that household vis-a-vis Soon-Yi and the kids he adopted with Farrow?
Christ.
so strange how this article highlights R Kelly's child molestation claims bearing weight, but not Woody Allen's
almost like people (rightfully) talking about Dre's background in domestic abuse, but not John Lennon's
so very strange
i don't know how young i was when i figured out the world does not, on any level, work this way...but it's been quite some time
you could literally apply most of the posts in this thread to answer that question as well
So the part of Allen fooling around with the adopted _daughter_ of the woman he was in a committed relationship with doesn't phase you whatsoever? What role do you think Allen filled in that household vis-a-vis Soon-Yi and the kids he adopted with Farrow?
Christ.
It's pretty shitty honestly. With how fucked up Hollywood is there's no telling what accusations are true and which are meant to slander and defame.We seem to accept some pretty heinous flaws in our artists. It appears that we accept that as part of what makes them brilliant.
Mos def was definitely not right. In terms of racism existing sure. No shit.
your post really should've stopped there
also: Elvis is important for stealing & whitewashing the music of big momma thorton & others