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[BojTrek]

Damnit... I recently purchased Sky Captain and it ended up being Full-Screen... I was able to take it directly back to Circuit City and they gave me Wide-Screen even though I opened Full-Screen.

Well, last night I throw in Bourne Supremacy and the warning pops up: The Movie Has Been Edited To Fit... blah, blah, blah....

AHHH... I grab the DVD case and guess what it says at the bottom... FULL-SCREEN.

Damnit... this is twice now I have done this! Unfortunately, I don't know where I bought it or where the receipt is... DAMN YOU CREATORS OF TWO SEP. DVD VERSIONS...

Now I have to search for a receipt and hope they believe me that I havn't watched the flick in 2 months...

 

[Particle Physicist]

that what you get for buying crappy movies.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

i always make it a point to check and double check before i buy a dvd. I would hate accidentally buy a shitty fullscreen version.

 

[darscot]

What pisses me off even more is renting. I know I grabbed the widescreen box why when I get home is it goddamn fullscreen.

 

[Mike Works]

Urgh, Blockbuster has a 2 for 1 deal going on with all movies under a certain label (great movies too, Schindler's List, American Beauty, A Beautiful Mind, etc), and ALL of them were Widescreen EXCEPT A Beautiful Mind, which of course I didn't notice until I got out of the car outside my house.

Fucking full screen, I can't wait until widescreen TV's are the norm and that shit gets cast the fuck out. Just found out that my family's copy of Fellowship of the Ring is Full Screen, whereas I bought Two Towers and Return of the King, so now that series is fucking incomplete.

THEY SUCK

 

[DarienA]

I've done this as well.. now I ALWAYS check the case. The missus doesn't understand why I buy Widescreen DVD's.... you just can't help some people.

 

[levious]

this is a lot like buying grapes without inspecting them

 

[Pedigree Chum]

I always check the back of the case, at the bottom, that always clears things up nicely.

 

[human5892]

Or being given them as gifts by people who don't know any better.

I also hate putting on a DVD with people who don't like (understand) widescreen, because it ALWAYS ends up as the same dumbass conversation:

Them: GET THOSE BLACK BARS OFF THE SCREEN OMGWTF
Me: Yeah, but this way we're seeing all of the movie.
Them: ...
Me: See, when you watch it in the theater, the screen is a large rectangle, not a more-or-less square like this television here. So when we --
Them: GET THOSE BLACK BARS OFF THE SCREEN OMGWTF

 

[Pedigree Chum]

Or being given them as gifts by people who don't know any better.

I also hate putting on a DVD with people who don't like (understand) widescreen, because it ALWAYS ends up as the same dumbass conversation:

Them: GET THOSE BLACK BARS OFF THE SCREEN OMGWTF
Me: Yeah, but this way we're seeing all of the movie.
Them: ...
Me: See, when you watch it in the theater, the screen is a large rectangle, not a more-or-less square like this television here. So when we --
Them: GET THOSE BLACK BARS OFF THE SCREEN OMGWTF

I remember trying to explain this to a customer at BestBuy when she asked me what the differences are and what's better. It took 10mins before she realzied that widescreen is better...ugh, it's a simple concept people. I even had to hold a DVD case sideways to demostrate widescreen, and put mands vertically on the case to demostrate what full screen does...she finally got it then.

 

[human5892]

I remember trying to explain this to a customer at BestBuy when she asked me what the differences are and what's better. It took 10mins before she realzied that widescreen is better...ugh, it's a simple concept people. I even had to hold a DVD case sideways to demostrate widescreen, and put mands vertically on the case to demostrate what full screen does...she finally got it then.

Heh, that's actually a really good way to illustrate what you mean. Maybe I'll just jump right to that and save my breath the next time it happens.

 

[darscot]

The thing that is even worse is the non anamorphic widescreen. It's not as common any more thank god. I've bought a few in the past though. Nothing like getting a widescreen movie home poping it in and seeing a perfect widescreen picture compacted in the middle of the fucking screen! Then having to Zoom on it so it fits but looks like shit.

 

[Shin Johnpv]

I hate when they don't make a widescreen version

wheres my widescreen Sword In the Stone Disney !!

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

it baffles me that there are people out there who think fullscreen is better than widescreen....fullscreen will never go away until these people realize the truth.

 

[human5892]

it baffles me that there are people out there who think fullscreen is better than widescreen....fullscreen will never go away until these people realize the truth.

I don't know if they'll all like this, but AFAIK my local Walmart only has full screen.

 

[firex]

Wife's thoughts: "Maybe because any fucking life form with any fucking sort of intelligence would have inspected that dvd before buying it and putting it in our dvd player."

 

[bishoptl]

this is a lot like buying grapes without inspecting them

*snicker* :lol

 

[bort]

Or being given them as gifts by people who don't know any better.

I also hate putting on a DVD with people who don't like (understand) widescreen, because it ALWAYS ends up as the same dumbass conversation:

Them: GET THOSE BLACK BARS OFF THE SCREEN OMGWTF
Me: Yeah, but this way we're seeing all of the movie.
Them: ...
Me: See, when you watch it in the theater, the screen is a large rectangle, not a more-or-less square like this television here. So when we --
Them: GET THOSE BLACK BARS OFF THE SCREEN OMGWTF

A lot of movies nowadays are filmed in SUPER35 which means that fullscreen version will have more picture than the widescreen version except in some special effect shots.

 

[darscot]

A lot of movies nowadays are filmed in SUPER35 which means that fullscreen version will have more picture than the widescreen version except in some special effect shots.

This is total BS. Fillms have been shot on a 4:3 aspect negative for years. If you actually used the full negative you would see mics and lighting. They couldn't adjust the framing the way they see fit. A few directors, actually Kuberick is the only one that comes to mind, did use the full 4:3 frame and intend it that way. Most use 4:3 just so they have a buffer zone so they can then go back and frame it the way they intended which is widescreen.

 

[Shin Johnpv]

James Cameron also does this

Airforce 1 was filmed in 4:3 and when it was released on DVD the Fullscreen version showed more of what was filmed

 

[borghe]

This is total BS. Fillms have been shot on a 4:3 aspect negative for years. If you actually used the full negative you would see mics and lighting. They couldn't adjust the framing the way they see fit. A few directors, actually Kuberick is the only one that comes to mind, did use the full 4:3 frame and intend it that way. Most use 4:3 just so they have a buffer zone so they can then go back and frame it the way they intended which is widescreen.

not to mention the fact that the shot itself is composed for widescreen. so yes, the screen isn't cut off at the top of the guy's eyes anymore, and thus the entire shot with his head not fully in the frame and the edgeiness of only seeing the bottoms of his eyes is ruined all so you don't have stupid black bars on your tv...

also as was originally said, fx shots are generally only done to the matted shot so they are still cropped on fullscreen.

anyone whose woman has a hard time understanding what the big deal is, get a widescreen TV.. after about two or three movies of watching squashed fat people on the screen she'll get with the program.. mine did

 

[theo]

i cant wait until widescreen tv's become the standard, and everyone who bought their fullscreen dvds at walmart over the years bitch about "those damn bars on the sides of the picture"

 

[Naked Snake]

this is a lot like buying grapes without inspecting them

:lol

 

[Ramirez]

I like full screen,just something about the 2 black boxes that is distracting to me,sue me!

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

I like full screen,just something about the 2 black boxes that is distracting to me,sue me!

its ok...its just cause you're so country....

when them country folks start gettin widescreen tvs, youll see the difference.

 

[Teddman]

Not only can I not stand fullscreen DVD's, I can't stand widescreen DVD's that are not enhanced for 16:9 TV's.

If it's just standard letterbox, they don't give me the 1/3 bump in resolution I get from an anamorphic image using my Wega's 16:9 squeeze mode.

 

[aoi tsuki]

it baffles me that there are people out there who think fullscreen is better than widescreen....fullscreen will never go away until these people realize the truth.

Because people buy a tv and most programs (standard air, or cable/satellite) are in 4:3. So when they watch a program or DVD in letterbox, they feel cheated that those bars are there, nevermind the fact that they're actually viewing the full frame. i prefer widescreen, even on a 4:3 display, but i can still see why 4:3 is preferred among some people.

It would be funny if movies weren't edited to fit 4:3, and crucial elements were off-screen all the time, as with a lot of really cheap DVDs (martial arts flicks especially).

 

[Drensch]

When buying a dvd, always make sure it is widescreen, and then shake it to make sure you didn't get a floater.

 

[BojTrek]

Gotta love the references to my grapes dilema...

http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=36589

Thanks for the quick laugh... the wife and I were laughing about it last night...

And guess what... on a side note... I am cleaning out the baby bag and adding any clothes she might need... anyways, I feel something cold... guess what it was...

THAT'S RIGHT PEOPLE... A bag of rotten grapes from 3 weeks ago... we were at a baptism and the wife brought fresh grapes at the time... well 3 weeks later... yes... digusting white, black, grey, juice, grapes mess... WE LAUGHED!

She said "what are those?"
I said "I don't know but they look like Sunday's grapes..."

UNREAL!

 

[Dan]

I hate when they don't make a widescreen version

wheres my widescreen Sword In the Stone Disney !!

Sword on the Stone was seemingly animated in 1.37:1 and then matted down to 1.75:1, so the widescreen theatrical version had the least amount of retained footage. Read this for more on how absolutely confusing the issue of 'original aspect ratio' has been for Disney's animated films. The Fox and the Hound is the only Disney animated film to have been released on DVD in a compromised fullscreen version.

 

[pnjtony]

I used to be a full screener. I never had a big TV in my room so widescreen meant a considerable smaller pic. The first movie that I really noticed the difference was when I bought the VHS fullscreen version of Charlies Angels (actually like 2 weeks before I got my first DVD player). I specifically remember Drew Barrymore doing that little air guitar thing in that drive-thru and I didn't see it on the VHS...Ever since then I've bought widescreen. It just took a slap in the balls to get me there.

 

[fallout]

Worst widescreen/fullscreen debate I ever had ("worse" as in ... "most fucking retarded") was between me and my ex gilfriend:

Me: Holy shit, Boondock Saints for 8 bucks!
Her: But, it's in widescreen!
Me: Yeah, it's perfect!
Her: What?
Me: It's in widescreen, that's good, it's what I want. You get to see the entire shot.
Her: But they cut out the stuff at the top and the bottom!
Me: ...

I swear, she was not that stupid when we first started dating ... or I just wasn't paying attention. I ended up buying it, but that was one of those moments where I'm glad I kept my mouth shut. Not like you can just outright say to your girlfriend "Hey, what are you, some kind of idiot?"

 

[cvxfreak]

Why can't movies include both options? Resident Evil Apocalypse does, saving me the headache of finding the widescreen one.

 

[Dead]

Why can't movies include both options? Resident Evil Apocalypse does, saving me the headache of finding the widescreen one.

And end up fucking up the quality of the transfer?

No thanks

 

[Diablos]

I love widescreen but I hate high ratios like 2.35:1 with a 27" 4:3 TV. The shit looks so small. I too can't wait for the day widescreen televisions become standard.

 

[tenchir]

I remember trying to explain this to a customer at BestBuy when she asked me what the differences are and what's better. It took 10mins before she realzied that widescreen is better...ugh, it's a simple concept people. I even had to hold a DVD case sideways to demostrate widescreen, and put mands vertically on the case to demostrate what full screen does...she finally got it then.

My siblings are just morons when it comes to widescreen vs fullscreen. No matter how I explain it to them, they just don't get it and continue to buy dvd movies in full screen. Pissed me off to no end.

 

[Tabris]

It's annoying when you're trying to take back the full screen version you accidently bought and the clerk looks at you like you're being totally anal.

Half the time you get people who don't care, a quarter of the time you get people who totally understand why you want to exchange it for the widescreen version, but then there's that quarter that just don't get it.

 

[LakeEarth]

One time I got a used DVD of the Matrix Reloaded and although the box said widescreen, the DVD was full-screen. I thought shit, but I decided to go through the movie anyways. My god, the Burly Brawl on Fullscreen is almost hilarious. It's pretty much just Neo punching passed the screen for 5 minutes.

 

[Alcibiades]

I still have a sealed AI in full-screen, but I kept it cause it has some extra DVD from a Best Buy...

Hopefully I'll get a widescreen version and watch it, great movie...

 

[Schmo Florez]

I used to be a full screen advocate until I saw Pulp Fiction in widescreen.

Widescreen fo' life bitches!

 

[mrklaw]

If you'd stop calling it 'fullscreen' it would help.... Call it 'chopped screen' or something. Fullscreen sounds like you are getting more.

A lot of movies nowadays are filmed in SUPER35 which means that fullscreen version will have more picture than the widescreen version except in some special effect shots

I know you're kidding to get a reaction, right? Its not about more, or what shape the picture is. Its how it was presented in the cinema. If a movie had a special circular screen, thats how I'd want my DVD to be. By your argument they shouldn't have editors on movies, because they chop out lots of the movie.

One good thing about Europe is that they don't bother with the two versions, and luckily they decided on the sane choice of OAR.

 

[Jotaro]

I hate it, today I like, got the Bambi special edition DVD on pre, and I realize it's fullscreen only! And then I said, wait a minute, what about some other great films I have? I then realized that I had many, many full screen movies! Citizen Kane, Rashomon, Seven Samurai, Casablanca, The Wizard of Oz... ALL FULLSCREEN!

I want it to fit my widescreen TV!

 

[mrklaw]

I hate it, today I like, got the Bambi special edition DVD on pre, and I realize it's fullscreen only! And then I said, wait a minute, what about some other great films I have? I then realized that I had many, many full screen movies! Citizen Kane, Rashomon, Seven Samurai, Casablanca, The Wizard of Oz... ALL FULLSCREEN!

I want it to fit my widescreen TV!

Funny man

Just get some cardboard, and use it to blank off the black bars (whether on the sides on on the top/bottom). Then turn the lights out and you can only see the picture and you forget about the bars.

 

[Jotaro]

Funny man

Just get some cardboard, and use it to blank off the black bars (whether on the sides on on the top/bottom). Then turn the lights out and you can only see the picture and you forget about the bars.

Hey, I hope you understood it was a sarcastic comment.

I do not own a single non-OAR DVD. Except for Kindergarten Cop, but even for that I am ashamed.

Of course, there are the late Stanley Kubrick movies (The Shining, Full Metal Jacket, Eyes Wide Shut), which are not, but Kubrick said so, he said he wanted me to experience his movies with the same view he had while looking with his camera. So I always shut up and viewed his masterpieces this way, because Kubrick said so.

I own a HDTV, 4:3 tv. I prefer to cope with the black bars, I might be the only one but they do not bother me at all. And with all the material only available in 4:3 (especially videogames), that was the best option for me. Also I try to only buy anamorphic widescreen DVDs, but this way, non-anamorphic widescreen is much better than it would be with a zoom on a widescreen set. My next TV, I will wait until SED or 1080p LCD, or whatever platform will be the greatest to become affordable. It will be widescreen only, but I will always have my regular TV set to play some of my games.

 

[Shinobi]

If you'd stop calling it 'fullscreen' it would help.... Call it 'chopped screen' or something. Fullscreen sounds like you are getting more.

Heh, good point.

 

[Jotaro]

Heh, good point.

Something like: re-framed format, versus widescreen format

And pan and scanning on widescreen movies has already begun, and it will be the new horse of war with HD-DVD and Blu-ray.

The aspect ratio of any widescreen TV is 1.78:1, but most movies are either 1.85 or 2.35. I think all movies by some Warner studios that are shot in 1.85:1 are "vertically pan and scanned" to fit 1.78:1. That is not that bad.

But with Academy Scope movies (2.35:1), and others, being fit to 1.78:1 is alot worse. It's a damn shame, but the battle for OAR on home movies is very far from being over. And when we are gonna argue with those stupid clerks, it's going to be much, much more difficult. :lol

 

[mrklaw]

stop calling it widescreen too. Original Aspect Ratio or Edited to fit your TV version.

 

[borghe]

stop calling it widescreen too. Original Aspect Ratio or Edited to fit your TV version.

actually widescreen is very apt, especially now.. to me widescreen implies 16:9, not OAR. As opposed to letterboxed as someone else mentioned. but to that guy, LUCKILY, no DVD released in the past.. I don't know, like 3-4 years, is letterboxed.. all or damn near all should be widescreen.

but before 2000 or so.. man.. the number of letterboxed discs out there were ridiculous... and great freaking movies too by Criterion, classics by MGM, Universal, etc. The only company I think that ever did 16x9 from the start without exception was Warner/New Line.

And to the guy who says he only buys OAR... but then you miss out on Happy Gilmore, Ace Ventura 1, Secret of Nimh, Muppet Treasure Island, Muppet Christmas Carol, An American Tale, and uymmmm... I think that is all in my collection of movies that I have no choice on

 

[mrklaw]

actually widescreen is very apt, especially now.. to me widescreen implies 16:9, not OAR. As opposed to letterboxed as someone else mentioned. but to that guy, LUCKILY, no DVD released in the past.. I don't know, like 3-4 years, is letterboxed.. all or damn near all should be widescreen.

but before 2000 or so.. man.. the number of letterboxed discs out there were ridiculous... and great freaking movies too by Criterion, classics by MGM, Universal, etc. The only company I think that ever did 16x9 from the start without exception was Warner/New Line.

And to the guy who says he only buys OAR... but then you miss out on Happy Gilmore, Ace Ventura 1, Secret of Nimh, Muppet Treasure Island, Muppet Christmas Carol, An American Tale, and uymmmm... I think that is all in my collection of movies that I have no choice on

*exactly* widescreen implies 16:9. So what about 2.35 movies? or 1.37? OAR takes out the guesswork. And also avoids the inevitable situation where movies are adjusted to fit your (16:9) screen.

 

[Afro Thunder]

Last Sunday I was watching A Walk to Remember. My aunt comes in and look at my monitor and asks where is the black bars (she hates it). I like the widescreen format and I don´t perceive that the movie was in full screen OMG. A good movie however.