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Danganronpa 3 Mafia |OT| Side: Scum

nin1000

Banned
I didn't say there aren't multiple people that I scum or null read currently, but I wouldn't list Blarg as a town read right now whereas others I would. Are you saying you don't think any other players in this game are more reliable than repeating that post incessantly?

he was implying that there are other people who are repeating themselves aswell , just not that obvious.
 

nin1000

Banned
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Can we assume that those that are currently voting for him are doing so because he is annoying and would rather have a game without him ?
 

Karkador

Banned
But for every single post? What has he done to earn the benefit of doubt from anyone?

Nothing; I wouldn't say he has the benefit of the doubt. I think lynching Blarg is as good o a stab in the dark as anybody else, and people have jumped on board with that idea because he has purposely provoked it.

Do you think those 6 out of 17 voters on Blarg include any mafia players? I think it's likely. Even more likely if Blarg flips Town.

The situation we're in is that it might be true that voting for Blarg is in some way a trap, and he didn't reveal this until he got a fair amount of voters to charge in on him. Whether it's true or not is impossible to tell right now, and I'm curious to see who's gonna call the bluff and who's gonna slink away. That says something.
 

Terrabyte20xx

Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
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Can we assume that those that are currently voting for him are doing so because he is annoying and would rather have a game without him ?
I was willing to give him a day phase and see what he's up to, but after that "
Hour of posting" that went absolutely nowhere, I'm keeping mine on him for anti-town behavior.
 

*Splinter

Member
The situation we're in is that it might be true that voting for Blarg is in some way a trap, and he didn't reveal this until he got a fair amount of voters to charge in on him.
But this should have been obvious from the start? I mean it's the only way you could give his actions a positive spin.

Unless you are referring to his claimed ability.
 
I dunno

What's your read on Blarg rn? You look to be scum leaning, but haven't voted for him.
I am leaning towards extremely unhelpful and anti-town town player. Problem is that is Blarg's typical town play :/. First time it has really annoyed me though.

Nothing; I wouldn't say he has the benefit of the doubt. I think lynching Blarg is as good o a stab in the dark as anybody else, and people have jumped on board with that idea because he has purposely provoked it.

Do you think those 6 out of 17 voters on Blarg include any mafia players? I think it's likely. Even more likely if Blarg flips Town.

The situation we're in is that it might be true that voting for Blarg is in some way a trap, and he didn't reveal this until he got a fair amount of voters to charge in on him. Whether it's true or not is impossible to tell right now, and I'm curious to see who's gonna call the bluff and who's gonna slink away. That says something.

In Price is Right, Blarg was entirely lynched by town on D1 (6 people voted for him although that doesn't include a mafia member that unvoted). So this doesn't really mean much especially since Blarg is an amazingly popular and easy lynch candidate without mafia influence.
 

Faddy

Banned
But this should have been obvious from the start? I mean it's the only way you could give his actions a positive spin.

Unless you are referring to his claimed ability.

Superbowl took it out of me. Reading through the thread brings me right to this post.

I'm unsure of what to do. I don't believe everything Blarg has said but I don't read him as scum either but I don't know where to place my vote.

Of all the people in this thread I get the best vibes from *Splinter and Ty4on and read both as town. Karkador I'm reading as town as he has posted a good bit of helpful analysis.

Natiko is slightly off from the last couple of games he played but I get the feeling he is playing tighter because he has been killed early in both by being open.
 

kingkitty

Member
what is the general consensus now.

do we now all think that blarg is Mafia ?

asking for a general consensus seems a lil weird, sounding like "can we agree on a bandwagon?". 1 bad donut vibe for nin.

Speaking of Blarg....his constant posting of the same message seems to be just a blarg-thing. I don't know what to believe when it comes to Blarg's forbidden action/claim. If Blarg is mafbro, interesting move to create so much attention (assuming posting the same message wasn't part of his forbidden action).

Terrabyte hasn't given me enough confidence at the moment to change my vote of death.
 

Sorian

Banned
I also doubt any of that stuff had to do with an FA.

It's possible his FA is to have 0 votes

I don't think that's possible, he certainly didn't play around his FA at all. I get what you are going for but you are diving too much into the theoretical for my tastes.

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Can we assume that those that are currently voting for him are doing so because he is annoying and would rather have a game without him ?

No, you can't assume that and actually reading the thread would make that fairly obvious.
 

nin1000

Banned
asking for a general consensus seems a lil weird, sounding like "can we agree on a bandwagon?". 1 bad donut vibe for nin.

Speaking of Blarg....his constant posting of the same message seems to be just a blarg-thing. I don't know what to believe when it comes to Blarg's forbidden action/claim. If Blarg is mafbro, interesting move to create so much attention (assuming posting the same message wasn't part of his forbidden action).

Terrabyte hasn't given me enough confidence at the moment to change my vote of death.

are you currently reading through the thread or why did you not bring up this quote aswell ?

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Can we assume that those that are currently voting for him are doing so because he is annoying and would rather have a game without him ?

My stance is clear that i dont think blarg is mafia and that he should be lynched today.
Most of those votes are from players that are annoyed by him ( but i think that there is the possibility of someone sneaking in a vote in order to get rid of him because "scum").

Again if you want to throw shade, do it correctly.
 

Sorian

Banned
So we can assume that and also agree on one thing.
I am happy about that Sorian, what about you ?
Are you happy ?

We don't agree though, you just said that you don't think he is mafia, when I voted for him yesterday, I did. With the new info last night, I'm still debating if there is more to this so I'm not as sure now but I don't vote on policy.
 

nin1000

Banned
We don't agree though, you just said that you don't think he is mafia, when I voted for him yesterday, I did. With the new info last night, I'm still debating if there is more to this so I'm not as sure now but I don't vote on policy.

What new info came last night ? are you willing to share ?

So you are making it clear that your vote on Blarg is because you think he is scum , whereas others are voting for him for being annoying. Correct ?
 

Faddy

Banned
Can you elaborate on these at all? Mostly me/Ty4on

Wait, why did you quote this Faddy? You don't really mention it in your post?

what do you mean by that "off" ?

please elaborate some more. If you want to throw shade at somebody do it correctly.


Elaboration: I might as well be open since I don't have any great insight. *Splinter is one of the top posters and the battle of ideas seems to between *Splitter and Sorian I would choose to believe *Splinter more. He seems to be giving the game a very close reading and has engaged to try and get more reasoned responses, like this post.

As for why I quoted that particular post? It is a summation of where I am at this point in the game. *Splinter is pushing to lynch Blarg because his posts have low value and aren't going to help us win but although I think Blarg is probably not scum I don't have anyone else down to argue for as a better target.

When I read Ty4on's post I find myself mostly agreeing. Same with Kark. I'm against the policy lynch right now.

As for Natiko, he just seems like he is putting less out there than in Quarantine and Zelda. Maybe it is nothing. But he does play logically in a way I think I can read. I find his posts less trustworthy than in Quarantine but perhaps he is protecting himself.
 

Natiko

Banned
As for Natiko, he just seems like he is putting less out there than in Quarantine and Zelda. Maybe it is nothing. But he does play logically in a way I think I can read. I find his posts less trustworthy than in Quarantine but perhaps he is protecting himself.
I will agree that I'm not having to push as much as I did in Quarantine but that was a bit of a different situation with the electing process. I'm not approaching this any different than I did in Zelda - it's just that no one has jumped out at me as much as acohrs did in that game as scum so I ended up posting a lot towards day end to make my case for why he should be lynched.

I will be posting a reads list later with my reasoning as usual, that way there's time for any discussion it may generate as opposed to posting it right before day end.
 

Sorian

Banned
What new info came last night ? are you willing to share ?

So you are making it clear that your vote on Blarg is because you think he is scum , whereas others are voting for him for being annoying. Correct ?

nin, stop being obnoxious. Asking questions for the sake of it is not a tactic that does anything. The same info you can clearly read, Blarg started not talking in song and said his piece, bullshit or not. As for your second question, yes, I clearly think he has the possibility of being scum, asking me why others are voting for him is a weak question since I have no clue who is being genuine and who isn't.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
nin1000

Seems off. Post #287 and #290 are weird. Has actually had flippant posts throughout the game, in general, with stuff like posting what Blarg did (more than once) and cute, meaningless pictures. Wants to "play games" and make dumb gambits, which lead to nothingness.

Calls to consensus. Seeks approval regarding Blarg as scum, as though gauging how he should feel about it himself. Does the same thing, again about Blarg, regarding why people have votes on him.

I actually don't know what he thinks about anyone right now.

Faddy

I think what puts me off with Faddy, going back, is his forbidden action. I guess I assumed, going into this game and given my own, that the FAs would all be mechanically relevant. Needing to post poetry every four posts isn't something I was expecting; it's very superficial.

Plus, he was eager earlier to post elaborations on poetry, which would naturally lead to him needing to post more poetry. A lot of silliness. If OceanicAir isn't lying about his own FA, then I could buy Faddy's for now. He's also posted his opinions and engaged with discussions so far, so I'm not actively suspecting him right now.

Did the vibes turn out to be bad?
Or my early vote got u mad?

That was honestly just a dumb attempt to see you slip and know whether you actually feared death with your supposed FA or not.

Sorian

Pretty much exactly how he seemed in Persona, another recent game I participated in. Nothing's setting off alarm bells. Accusations of shutting down discussion points, but it's not like we have had that many great ones to begin with and he had those same accusations when he was town. I seem to agree with him regarding Blarg.

Karkador

The main point I have for him right now is how he is so convinced that there is more to Blarg than meets the eye right now. Same for Ty4on. I get that it's his playstyle or whatever, but I don't see why he warrants any benefit of the doubt, and everything about him seems to be lies, confusion and nonsense thus far. There is no reason to believe that he is leaning town more than leaning scum right now.

Bronx-Man

I can't recall if I had played in a game with Bronx-Man before. He seems pretty aggressive and will accordingly respond to those who mention him negatively. I guess that quality doesn't inherently lean towards any alignment, so I'll need to see more. I agree with him regarding Blarg, so there's that.

I suppose the person I think is town the most right now would be Sorian, and scum would be nin1000. Still wary regarding Sorian, of course; someone who knows how to play the game well would naturally be able to come off well as town if they were scum.
 

Faddy

Banned
If I'm not for lynching Blarg and no one else is going to make an alternate suggestion I will do it.

Yeah, I figured that would happen. Sorry, bud. No dead weight.

vote: Blargonaut[/vote]

Royal_Flush has barely posted, so in the spirit of no dead weight.

VOTE: Royal_Flush
 

nin1000

Banned
nin, stop being obnoxious. Asking questions for the sake of it is not a tactic that does anything. The same info you can clearly read, Blarg started not talking in song and said his piece, bullshit or not. As for your second question, yes, I clearly think he has the possibility of being scum, asking me why others are voting for him is a weak question since I have no clue who is being genuine and who isn't.

Come on, i was just trying to have some fun. But ok will stop being obnoxious. Fair enough
 
Starsketch (0)
Sorian (152)

Sorian (0)
Starsketch (154)

Bronx-Man (0)
*Splinter (209)

FluxWaveZ (0)
Faddy (196)

Karkador (0)
Sorian (201)
kingkitty (223)

*Splinter (0)
Sorian (245)

Nin1000 (0)
Natiko (264)

Faddy (1)
Ty4on (275)

Blargonaut (6)
Natiko (307)
*Splinter (317)
Sorian (322)
FluxWaveZ (343)
Royal_Flush (356)
*Splinter (376)
Bronx-Man (378)
Terrabyte20xx (456)

OceanicAir (1)
Blargonaut (403)

Terrabyte20xx (1)
Kingkitty (428)

Royal_Flush (2)
Natiko (457)
Faddy (680)

*Splinter (0)
Nin1000 (605)

Majority is 9

Up to date vote count can be found here.

Day Ends:

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Natiko

Banned
If I'm not for lynching Blarg and no one else is going to make an alternate suggestion I will do it.



Royal_Flush has barely posted, so in the spirit of no dead weight.

VOTE: Royal_Flush

You bag on me for putting less out there then vote for the person I am and act like you're the first to make the suggestion. Tsk tsk.
 

Natiko

Banned
Lean Town

StarSketch – I’ll admit that this one is pretty influenced by meta. I played with StarSketch in my first game in Persona. I spent a good chunk of that game thinking she was scum when she was in fact a town PR. A lot of the reasoning I used then applies now which makes me feel like she’s town here as well. Nothing she has done has stood out to me as suspicious either.

nin1000 – I find it pretty hard to get a read on nin generally, but so far this game it feels like nin has been trying more than he did in Zelda to contribute. His tendency to be nin is still there, but he has managed to actually question people and share his opinions more than I’m used to.

Ty4on – This isn’t quite as strong of a town lean as I have felt for him in prior games, but it’s still pretty solid. Sharing reads and questioning others like usual. My only hesitation is in the back half of this day phase he has seemed complacent. Generally though a pretty solid feeling of town.

FluxWaveZ – So far he’s been playing pretty similar to what I remember from Persona. He’s been participating a mild amount, but his reads list makes me feel more firmly that he is town this game as well. He seems to be following and participating which always makes me feel better than someone that is clearly coasting.

Karkador – So far his play has been pretty solid. Some of his lines of questioning seem like a stretch, but the fact that he’s putting in the time to do so makes me feel like he’s invested in the game and trying to figure out what people’s thoughts are. It’s not my strongest town read, but still is pretty solid. Plus, no gambit so far. I wonder if that should actually concern me.

Null

Bronx-Man – Hard to get a read on him. He is posting more than he was in my only game with him so far. In that game he was neutral though, so I don’t know what to take from his increased activity (if anything). He’s been very aggressive which usually comes off as more town to me, but he also hasn’t shared many opinions of note other than to post several times about not believing Blarg’s claims. For now I’m going to have to go with null.

OceanicAir – Besides his FA claim he has posted excessively little. The only other topic he has discussed is Blarg, coming to the conclusion that he thinks he is town playing in a negative way. Barring a change in play I could see him slip to a scum lean but we will see how things progress.

Sorian – Sorian is here as a null primarily due to respecting his ability to play the middle of the field so well. I would put him as a town lean, but I want to be cautious to not blindly follow him just because he is a strong player. While I think the talk of him shutting down conversations isn’t all that valid, I do find it strange that he didn’t intervene much in the Blarg discussion.

StanleyPalmtree – Null for now but closer to a scum lean than a town one. To me his play so far really isn’t quotable. He generally has only discussed Blarg and even that was not much. My hesitation is solely based on meta in that last game I thought he was scum and he was town. Still, not a good feeling by the posts he has made. Going from against a lynch on Blarg or Terra to seeming fine with either one without much thought on his part. Seems fine with just following others.

Faddy – Generally he feels similar to last game but I can’t help but think a couple things are off. His first post out of the gate saying to lynch all players from the previous game could just be shit posting but it’s an odd move to start the day. Then his most recent post voting for Royal_Flush he based it purely off of his amount of posts, yet there are several other players that are low activity. Why specifically Royal_Flush? Furthermore he acts as if he’s the first person to cast suspicion on Royal when in fact Sorian and I already had discussed this matter with more actual reasoning behind it. I even have an active vote on Royal. I would probably put him more towards a scum lean than a town one.

Kingkitty – Pretty close to a town lean. He has not posted much but what is there he has been sharing some opinions and placing votes. That’s more participation than I see from some others that have far more posts in this game. For now though null until I see more.

Blargonaut – What is there to say? His posts have been nonsense. I don’t particularly believe his claim(s) either. Just not sure if scum would make moves like this even when it is his MO generally. Closer to a scum lean than town though by a mile.


Lean Scum

Royal_Flush – He came in a bit later than most but despite that did not have anything of substance to say. He has been very quiet so far with only 8 posts after the game start as of typing this, but to make matters worse those posts just don’t have much content. His only posts that stick out to me are 305 and 600. Post 305 is a short one, but it discusses how we shouldn’t speak about FAs because they could hint at PRs. There’s no real evidence out there that this is the case, but even if it is the scum team generally have powers too. Worse, since we don’t know what a scum FA would look like it could serve to try and distance himself from that talk as a cover of sorts. My vote is currently here.

*Splinter – He has been one of the most active posters thus far, but despite that he has not seemed as questioning as I feel he was in Zelda. He has in a couple of instances with Sorian and Terra, but generally he has been shit posting which is fine and all but makes me concerned about what his goal is. Posts like 494 where he says he thinks Terra is scum but is instead choosing to vote for Blarg on a policy lynch strike me as scum trying to seed an early excuse why their vote target is going to flip town.

Terrabyte20xx – His play has been concerning this game so far. In his previous game he secured a scum win due to the scum team playing very passively. There was a decent amount of discussion regarding this so seeing him pick up the activity and then also be the first person to use that as justification for why he’s not scum this game bothers me. Had he not been the first to talk about it I wouldn’t have found it as odd. He also got on everyone for voting Blarg only to then vote Blarg and then later on defend his vote on him in post 657. Just doesn’t sit right with me overall.

AbsolutBro – Who? No seriously though, just about no opinions shared whatsoever this game. I’m not going to just ignore people that seem to be cruising by without at least sharing opinions. I can understand not posting much if you’re busy, that’s fine, but when you do post you should be contributing.

TLDR:

Lean Town
StarSketch
nin1000
Ty4on
FluxWaveZ
Karkador

Null
Bronx-Man
OceanicAir
Sorian
StanleyPalmtree
Faddy
Kingkitty
Blargonaut

Lean Scum
Royal_Flush
*Splinter
Terrabyte20xx
AbsolutBro
 

Natiko

Banned
It was really kind of you all to not post in the two hours it took me to do that. Thanks for making sure I didn't have to redo parts of it due to new information. Also forgive the minor formatting errors with the titles.
 

Ty4on

Member
It was really kind of you all to not post in the two hours it took me to do that. Thanks for making sure I didn't have to redo parts of it due to new information. Also forgive the minor formatting errors with the titles.
NP

I weirdly agree with your town read of Nin
 

Ty4on

Member
I feel like both Terra and Flush are bad lynch targets. Terra struck me as quite eager which seems much more in line with his town play. His frustrations to being scum read seem genuine. He's good enough as scum to keep his cool under pressure.
Flush I have fewer posts, but RN he's a stronger town read to me. Going back to Pokemon I get a very similar vibe from his posts. He has short and concise opinions and calls out stuff he disagrees with like Kark trying to make sense of Blarg. I haven't seen his recent scum play, but going back to Heist his posts are much more padded trying to explain his views.

Oceanic doesn't seem different from his town self, but I don't have enough to make him much more than null RN.

AB is a tiny bit townie, but again little to go from. He seems a bit more solvey.
 

Ty4on

Member
Superbowl took it out of me. Reading through the thread brings me right to this post.

I'm unsure of what to do. I don't believe everything Blarg has said but I don't read him as scum either but I don't know where to place my vote.

Of all the people in this thread I get the best vibes from *Splinter and Ty4on and read both as town. Karkador I'm reading as town as he has posted a good bit of helpful analysis.

Natiko is slightly off from the last couple of games he played but I get the feeling he is playing tighter because he has been killed early in both by being open.
What's up with the Limerick for rhythm issue AB pointed out? Have you asked the mod what penalty you'd get?

Does anyone worry you and why?
 

Natiko

Banned
I feel like both Terra and Flush are bad lynch targets. Terra struck me as quite eager which seems much more in line with his town play. His frustrations to being scum read seem genuine. He's good enough as scum to keep his cool under pressure.
Flush I have fewer posts, but RN he's a stronger town read to me. Going back to Pokemon I get a very similar vibe from his posts. He has short and concise opinions and calls out stuff he disagrees with like Kark trying to make sense of Blarg. I haven't seen his recent scum play, but going back to Heist his posts are much more padded trying to explain his views.

Oceanic doesn't seem different from his town self, but I don't have enough to make him much more than null RN.

AB is a tiny bit townie, but again little to go from. He seems a bit more solvey.
With Terra it really comes down to that preemptive pointing out of his activity. It read to me like him trying to will that into consensus. "I'm more active than I am when I'm scum! I must be town!"

I really don't see the argument in favor of Royal though. His opinions have been very few and far between. For as few posts as he has he has even fewer opinions shared.

OA I agree on though while AB we are opposite but it's not like either of us has much to base it on.
 

Sorian

Banned
I'm at work but I have the slow night tonight up front at check in so when I get up there, I'll try to post more. I notice the meh feeling on both a Terra or Flush lynch but I actually like those both, would put them with Blarg in a top 3 easy.
 

*Splinter

Member
StanleyPalmtree – ...Going from against a lynch on Blarg or Terra to seeming fine with either one without much thought on his part.
Interesting, hadn't spotted that.

Regarding my vote on Blarg: I (and several others) threatened a policy lynch unless Blarg started making a little more sense. He hasn't done so, and now has wasted a majority of the day phase, so my vote won't be moving. It wasn't an empty threat, Blarg needs to play town or be treated as anti town.

I also fully believe he's lying about having one hour of posting per phase, which is why I'm not satisfied with those few readable posts.
 

*Splinter

Member
I'm at work but I have the slow night tonight up front at check in so when I get up there, I'll try to post more. I notice the meh feeling on both a Terra or Flush lynch but I actually like those both, would put them with Blarg in a top 3 easy.
What do you mean? A few people have called out Flush now (with Faddy and Natiko fighting over the credit even), and I think we've been so far unanimous on Terra having been caught with his pants down.
 

*Splinter

Member
Ty4on – This isn’t quite as strong of a town lean as I have felt for him in prior games, but it’s still pretty solid. Sharing reads and questioning others like usual. My only hesitation is in the back half of this day phase he has seemed complacent. Generally though a pretty solid feeling of town.
Forgot to mention this one. I too have felt Ty isn't as engaged as usual. I'm surprised you include him as a town read despite this - he's a competent scum.

Anything in particular you've liked about Ty?
 
StanleyPalmtree – Null for now but closer to a scum lean than a town one. To me his play so far really isn’t quotable. He generally has only discussed Blarg and even that was not much. My hesitation is solely based on meta in that last game I thought he was scum and he was town. Still, not a good feeling by the posts he has made. Going from against a lynch on Blarg or Terra to seeming fine with either one without much thought on his part. Seems fine with just following others.

i mean i thought that the change of mind over blarg was pretty self explanatory, but then who cares about context amirite?
 
ami i reading right that those who are scum reading royal are jbasing that entirely on his lack of posting?

because that feels kinda excessive this early in the game.
 
If one of you could quote the posts in question that would be super.

if you mean me changing my mind on blarg, it was this

and suddenly that policy lynch is starting to sounds like the best thing iv heard all week.

to be fair its been a below average week

which came after blarg actually started saying words, and yet communicated nothing of value, making me fairly certain he is actually just wasting every bodies time.
 

*Splinter

Member
if you mean me changing my mind on blarg, it was this



which came after blarg actually started saying words, and yet communicated nothing of value, making me fairly certain he is actually just wasting every bodies time.
Oh, well that was underwhelming.

Bad Natiko.

What about Terra? What has been / is your stance on him?
 

Sorian

Banned
What do you mean? A few people have called out Flush now (with Faddy and Natiko fighting over the credit even), and I think we've been so far unanimous on Terra having been caught with his pants down.

Ty4on just said both are bad lynch targets and I believe Natiko liked Terra in his big reads list if I remember right.
 
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