Daniel Bryan has retired.

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@Electric and others, so what's your response to this part of the story? This + the multiple clearances by top doctors doesn't give you second thoughts? Talking like i'm some 9/11 conspiracy loon.

That was my instant emotional first response without putting much thought into it. I was fuming. Whether it's due to Roman or other creative reasons doesn't matter.

Okay, but that's a different argument. I was responding to your initial argument.

Yes, it's entirely possible something is amiss regarding being cleared to wrestler/giving his notice/asking for his release/etc...
 
People are dismissing the part where you think they won't clear him because of Reigns. That part is absurd.
Right but you haven't shown how this relates to Roman Reigns
Okay, but that's a different argument. I was responding to your initial argument.

Yes, it's entirely possible something is amiss regarding being cleared to wrestler/giving his notice/asking for his release/etc...
Ok then tell me why the Roman part is crazy, how not wanting a 5'9 bearded goat being their most over guy on the roster, multiple times more over than their next Cena, has nothing at all to do with the rotten fishy smell that's coming out of this story (a smell that's backed up with facts, multiple doctor clearances and WWE refusing his notice).
 
don't you see, they are trying to keep Daniel Bryan out of the spotlight because they hate him so much, which is why he's on Total Divas and Tough Enough and why they are giving him a platform tonight on RAW in what may or may not be a work.

I know you're being sarcastic, but they literally tried to do this with the Royal Rumble Batista won. For once in his life, Vince may have learned a lesson.

If DB comes out, and doesn't actually retire, they're going to ruin their chosen one even worse.

I find it weird that when someone gets a "push," Cena is nowhere to be seen. What is Vince going to do when his golden chicken and his moneymaker have to collide?
 
Hey Bronx-Man, why are you happy for Marshawn Lynch to retire but insistent on Daniel Bryan continuing to sustain brain damage in the ring?




Furthermore, why are you attacking people in this thread who expressed the same opinion for Bryan as you did for Lynch in that thread?

Or are you just gimmick posting?
When did I ever say I wanted Daniel Bryan to continue getting brain damage? Oh wait, I didn't. I'm glad that Bryan won't have to suffer anymore, whereas you decided to put words in my mouth. And you know goddamn well that's not why that guy posted "YES YES YES". But please continue to defend obvious gimmick posting.
 
IGN just put out a tweet wishing him all the best and linking to their favourite interview of his.

Thought this was all a play but it seems real now and I don't think we can really assume the WWE are doing this out of spite, they would have wanted him back in some capacity.

This is gonna be a pretty emotional Raw tonight :(
 
Looking at his career after the Sheamus 18 second loss.

Dude was straight fire. And yet, at WM 29, he was in a tag match with Ziggler/Big E.

Then, another year after, the intention was for him to fight Sheamus again, I think.

It's so cruel how he was constantly suppressed. I loved the Team Hell No stuff, but it's like they didn't want him doing anything above that. I even liked the Bray Wyatt angle, but what happened with that? Bryan ultimately lost, but him turning on the Wyatts was one of the most memorable moments I've seen on Raw.

Yet even then, there really was no intention to put the title on him.

One thing that has always made me wonder: why did they put the title on him at all when he became WHC?

I imagine it was because it was a Smackdown title, and nobody cared, but it's pretty cool that he was able to be champion at all and develop. I'm surprised he even was able to do this. It was exactly what was needed to develop his character.
 
Ok then tell me why the Roman part is crazy, how not wanting a 5'9 bearded goat being their most over guy on the roster, multiple times more over than their next Cena, has nothing at all to do with the rotten fishy smell that's coming out of this story (a smell that's backed up with facts, multiple doctor clearances and WWE refusing his notice).

Because all their stars are injured and their ratings are dying. You think they would have one of their most popular stars kept on the shelf during that time?
The fact that they are in the middle of a concussion lawsuit is a vastly more likely explanation.
 
Because all their stars are injured and their ratings are dying. You think they would have one of their most popular stars kept on the shelf during that time?
The fact that they are in the middle of a concussion lawsuit is a vastly more likely explanation.
Ok so do you (like Electric) agree that " Yes, it's entirely possible something is amiss regarding being cleared to wrestler/giving his notice/asking for his release/etc..."

If so, tell me what possible reasons there could be. Electric answer too.
 
I know you're being sarcastic, but they literally tried to do this with the Royal Rumble Batista won. For once in his life, Vince may have learned a lesson.

If DB comes out, and doesn't actually retire, they're going to ruin their chosen one even worse.

I find it weird that when someone gets a "push," Cena is nowhere to be seen. What is Vince going to do when his golden chicken and his moneymaker have to collide?

Cena's likely close to the end himself that is why he's doing more work outside of WWE the injuries are starting to stack up for him too.
 
Ok so do you (like Electric) agree that " Yes, it's entirely possible something is amiss regarding being cleared to wrestler/giving his notice/asking for his release/etc..."

If so, tell me what possible reasons there could be. Electric answer too.

I literally just told you.
 
Ok then tell me why the Roman part is crazy, how not wanting a 5'9 bearded goat being their most over guy on the roster, multiple times more over than their next Cena, has nothing at all to do with the rotten fishy smell that's coming out of this story (a smell that's backed up with facts, multiple doctor clearances and WWE refusing his notice).
Because the idea that WWE would sideline one of the most over performers they've had in years, a guy who sells shit tons of merch and is a great ambassador for the company (just look at the stuff he did with Connor) just to get Roman Reigns over is ridiculous. On top of that you've not provided any evidence that's what they're doing other than going 'yeah but it's weird though innit?'

If there's any ulterior motive in not clearing Bryan it's to avoid a PR disaster by clearing a guy with a history of concussions whilst defending against a bunch of lawsuits, only for him to get himself hurt again.
 
Ok so do you (like Electric) agree that " Yes, it's entirely possible something is amiss regarding being cleared to wrestler/giving his notice/asking for his release/etc..."

If so, tell me what possible reasons there could be. Electric answer too.

When I say it's possible, that's all it is, a possibility. Which I don't think is probable.

You seem to think it's 100% the case.
 
It's a shame it had to end this way, But I wish him the best. He and his fans will always have Wrestlemania 30. One of the main reasons I stopped watching WWE in the summer of 2014 was because it was just boring without him, but I'll be watching his sendoff tonight.


In my opinion, one of the hardest working, best professional wrestlers there ever was, and he'll always be at the top of my FAVE FIVE! Thank you, Bryan.
 
Because the idea that WWE would sideline one of the most over performers they've had in years, a guy who sells shit tons of merch and is a great ambassador for the company (just look at the stuff he did with Connor) just to get Roman Reigns over is ridiculous. On top of that you've not provided any evidence that's what they're doing other than going 'yeah but it's weird though innit?'

If there's any ulterior motive in not clearing Bryan it's to avoid a PR disaster by clearing a guy with a history of concussions whilst defending against a bunch of lawsuits, only for him to get himself hurt again.
WWE has a history of screwing over their employees

WWE told Bret Hart he was going to retain the title, and then changed the story without his knowledge?

Orton being pushed over everyone else, when he was an awful wrestler, and is still awful on the mic

Triple H inserting himself in the main event for almost 15 years now, despite ratings falling everytime he is.
 
WWE has a history of screwing over their employees

WWE told Bret Hart he was going to retain the title, and then changed the story without his knowledge?

Orton being pushed over everyone else, when he was an awful wrestler, and is still awful on the mic

Triple H inserting himself in the main event for almost 15 years now, despite ratings falling everytime he is.

Bret is full of shit and should be fucking glad he didn't go up against Hogan. Even in 93, Hogan would have destroyed Bret politically.

And what the fuck? Orton an awful wrestler? Sure, bruh.
 
Hoping it's a work. Raw needs to pop a rating and sell tickets to their big show still. They ain't rolling this bum out into the ring just to retire.

Or maybe they are. B+ player and all that jazz. He should just be Brie Bella's valet.
 
WWE politics really are garbage. I'm amazed new day is somehow still together.

I think this time tho it is a legitimate medical concern forcing them to retire Bryan.
 
WWE has a history of screwing over their employees

WWE told Bret Hart he was going to retain the title, and then changed the story without his knowledge?

Orton being pushed over everyone else, when he was an awful wrestler, and is still awful on the mic

Triple H inserting himself in the main event for almost 15 years now, despite ratings falling everytime he is.

Even WWE aren't that stupid/petty to do something like that. You can perhaps make the argument that they keep Bryan away from the main event to protect Reigns, but to say they completely sideline him is just absurd.

Orton being pushed over everyone else, when he was an awful wrestler, and is still awful on the mic

I'm by no means an Orton fan but this is just straight up not true.
 
WWE has a history of screwing over their employees

WWE told Bret Hart he was going to retain the title, and then changed the story without his knowledge?

Orton being pushed over everyone else, when he was an awful wrestler, and is still awful on the mic

Triple H inserting himself in the main event for almost 15 years now, despite ratings falling everytime he is.
While wwe has screw the fuck out of their contacters non of those are good example. The Rey crisis last year is a good one or the Zack Ryder saga.
 
I'm devastated. Sitting here crying like a little girl. Truly one of the greatest of all time. #ThankYouDanielBryan indeed.
 
Good wrestler but I was never a big fan of him. Had a lot to do with how they booked him as a silly goof with Kane. I hated that run but enjoyed him when he won the World title the first time.

Anyway, he got to main event WM and win the WWE title there. Also, he's got a hot wife. Shouldn't feel too bad with what he's accomplished.
 
Do people not realise that the reason he's not being cleared isn't because he's concussed, it's because he KEEPS getting concussions. He's now susceptible to them. WWE can't guarantee that he won't get more. Hence they're doing what any sensible employer in a post-Benoit world would do and saving him from himself.
 
Do people not realise that the reason he's not being cleared isn't because he's concussed, it's because he KEEPS getting concussions. He's now susceptible to them. WWE can't guarantee that he won't get more. Hence they're doing what any sensible employer in a post-Benoit world would do and saving him from himself.

That's not exactly how it works.
 
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