Violentine
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Champion always make it harder. But the game won't be harder beyond Ng 7
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Dark Souls II |OT++| Bearer of...Seek...Seek...Lest
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Colorful Vocabulary
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Yeah, like I said, you don't have to use one immediately, but you'll still probably end up using a few to get everything unfortunately. I mean, it's not completely foolproof, but it sure beats the hell out of farming the normal way.
Sounds great, thanks. Gonna see which phantom I'm gonna farm.
Red Liquorice
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Ahhh, I knew about this but it seems kind of dodgy and time consuming - quiting out of the game and booting back up. I dunno, it seems a hell of a frustrating time sink. Reminds me of playing the casino in Dragon Quest 8! I know asceticing and killing bosses etc is time consuming too, but it also seems 'in the game'.
I did get the Monastery Scemitar and an armour piece drop the two times I've killed that BP. Some enemies I've never seen them drop anything, the invader in the Copse, the ones guarding the Throne of Want entrance. I wish I had the stomach to farm these guys!
Misterinenja
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I don't know if you guys appreciate me posting this here but here's my first DS2 'PVP' video.
'The Mongol vs. Sephiroth.
NG, not the final build, no skillful play but I thought it came out slightly funny. Now that I've started capturing footage more should be on the way.
'The Mongol vs. Sephiroth.
NG, not the final build, no skillful play but I thought it came out slightly funny. Now that I've started capturing footage more should be on the way.
Inskipp
Member
I don't recall Sephiroth using Dork Magic!
Merciless Roenna has two drops a helm and a sheild if I recall correctly.
Red Liquorice
Member
Don't make it worse than it already is!
At least the Skeleton Lords are an easy boss. It's those damn red sickle guys that sandwich you in I hate more. As soon as I see them spawn I run past and hope at least one of them falls off. Copse is pretty evil actually on NG+, those damn BP guys on the run to the Chariot, I hate, hate, hate those. One of the most evil things in the game.
Interrobang
Member
How would you build a DEX/HEX character wielding a Dark Blacksteel Katana?
With her drop rates you'd be there for a very long time.Don't make it worse than it already is!
Snakethesniper
Member
I have one doubt, how much vitality should a DEX user have? I'd like to wear some nice set and don't fat roll.
Misterinenja
Member
I'd personally not bother with vitality too much and wear some light stuff to keep it (at least) below 50%.
It is nice to be able to carry multiple weapons and a bow as a DEX character.
Snakethesniper
Member
speaking of bows, which is best ?
Misterinenja
Member
Hunter's Blackbow for Dex.
Snakethesniper
Member
thank you very much. Another doubts, is Adaptability worth it? I'm not spending points in it
edit: another thing I'm seeing is people talking about 40 str /40 dex builds. Are they good?
Strength scaling is better than dex 40/40 just allows you to use a wider variety of weapons.
ADP and ATT raise a stat for dodging attacks. When you get to the cap at 110 in that secondary stat, you'll practically be invincible because nothing can hit you anymore.
DEX/HEX means you don't buff your weapon with one of the 2 dark spells and also you'll need to sacrifice important stats such as vigor.
You can do it but it's far from being effective since you'll be doing less damage with your normal katana and if you infuse it, the dex scaling will decrease significantly.
It's viable but not a good build at all.
Snakethesniper
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so being 40 the softcap it means that with 40/40 I'd be able to use effectively str weapons and dex weapons?
If you're not intending to rely on STR or DEX scaling a better choice would be 30 STR 25 DEX, this way you can practically use every weapon in the game, and use the remaining stats for other stuff.
Screaming Meat
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A Dark infused Chaos Blade is a better choice of Katana for a Hex build, it has a B in Dark scaling, I think. If you then buff it with Dark Weapon or (better yet) Resonant Weapon it does some mad damage. It has something like 655 AR with resonant weapon, split as 232 physical & 423 Dark at 30 INT/30 FTH. Dark Silverblack Sickle is even better apparently (671 AR under the same conditions). If you are going Hex you only want STR & DEX at your weapon of choice's requirement level, otherwise you're splitting damage (which means it has to go through TWO types of defence) and wasting levels.
BSK is far better for a pure DEX build because of the S scaling in DEX. Not sure what happens to it when Dark infused, but I don't think it comes anywhere near the output of the Dark Chaos Blade. It says that it keeps it's S scaling when infused but it doesn't.
Snakethesniper
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well right now I'm relying on dex scaling, so I guess I'll go on that way xD
If your relying solely on DEX go with a black steel katana till you get a chaos blade then you can respec into INT with a soul vessel later. If that is your wish of course.
Screaming Meat
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Dual Blacksteel Katanas, my friend. That's a treat right there.
KoreanBarbecue
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Don't make it worse than it already is!
At least the Skeleton Lords are an easy boss. It's those damn red sickle guys that sandwich you in I hate more. As soon as I see them spawn I run past and hope at least one of them falls off. Copse is pretty evil actually on NG+, those damn BP guys on the run to the Chariot, I hate, hate, hate those. One of the most evil things in the game.
Those BP guys, I just cheese them out one by one. If you walk slow, just fire off an arrow at one, let it rush you kill it, and do the same for the next one. Just walk slow, if now you'll aggro most of them all at once and...yeah, not a good thing.
Red Liquorice
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OK this quit to menu thing for rare drops, not sure I quite understand it:
I'm trying it on Onionbro - well he's at one hit left, I'm rolling around waiting for the loading icon to appear (does it just appear without you doing anything?) and of course he keeps healing. So how does that work?
The first time I tried it, I killed him and got a broadsword+5 (wow), so quit to menu, loaded back up and the item was on the ground again (same item), tried reloading, it had gone. I know I didn't do it right that time, but still - how long are you waiting for the loading icon to appear?
I'm trying it on Onionbro - well he's at one hit left, I'm rolling around waiting for the loading icon to appear (does it just appear without you doing anything?) and of course he keeps healing. So how does that work?
The first time I tried it, I killed him and got a broadsword+5 (wow), so quit to menu, loaded back up and the item was on the ground again (same item), tried reloading, it had gone. I know I didn't do it right that time, but still - how long are you waiting for the loading icon to appear?
Red Liquorice
Member
Jeez. Finally got the Bellkeeper Set. 80 kills in the Belltower covenant. I stopped pvp at rank 2 which I think is 30, which means I killed the Mad Warrior 50 times @_@
The trick about listening to the PS3 chug-chug does work though, once I started using it I didn't predict wrong a single time when he would spawn.
The trick about listening to the PS3 chug-chug does work though, once I started using it I didn't predict wrong a single time when he would spawn.
Not in the game I believe nothing documented about them in any wiki.
KoreanBarbecue
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Me too. SL 129, SM around 1.7 million. Put down a summon sign outside The Rotten and waiting for nearly 30 minutes before I got called on. Is my SM jacking up my availability to be summoned? Tried it also outside the Looking Glass Knight, but gave up after waiting for 45 minutes.
Soul memory is affecting your ability most people will be at the castle by that stage with your memory. This is based on the assumption that is your first play through of course.
I dont get it. We just want to help people. We floss. We pay our taxes..we dont use WoTG. Why no one love us?
Disappointing, hopefully there's something similarly unexpected that pops up.
Red Liquorice
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Trying the quit game trick to get the Black Witch Domino stuff. What a load of shit, I've tried it about 20 times and nothing has dropped.
I was all for more rare drops in DS2, it was one of things I wanted to see more of - but this combined with the limited respawn is just bullshit. I can actually see them patching it so that they up the drop % on some of these super rare drops because it's just stupid the hoops you have to go through to get them - enemies with a very rare drop that only spawn once per bonfire intensity. B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.
Makes me rage more than my first time fighting Ancient Dragon!
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I was all for more rare drops in DS2, it was one of things I wanted to see more of - but this combined with the limited respawn is just bullshit. I can actually see them patching it so that they up the drop % on some of these super rare drops because it's just stupid the hoops you have to go through to get them - enemies with a very rare drop that only spawn once per bonfire intensity. B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.
Makes me rage more than my first time fighting Ancient Dragon!
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Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
1.7 mil is way high for rotten.
I'm pissed that my new character already has 4 mil sm.
I'm pissed that my new character already has 4 mil sm.
At this point it is probably unlikely that it will happen.
It really is. It ruins some of the fun if you spend that long just for a single set. I'll never wonder around as an Onion knight at this point sigh.
KoreanBarbecue
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I figured that, too, which is why I went to the Looking Glass Knight. But even there, no luck.
If you want something I probably have, I will happily give it to you.
There are so many sets in the game that I don't care what drops and what not. The only thing that matters is the desert sorceress set for a female character.
mickcenary
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Gaf, does the console quit trick work for the Mad Warrior and Armour of Aurous fellow?
I would love the Mad Warrior leggings. Only problem is, my SM is at 14 million...
I would love the Mad Warrior leggings. Only problem is, my SM is at 14 million...I don't see why it would not myself. The mad warrior has a limited loot pool and drops everything once until you ascetic the bonfire which resets the drops.
The PC thread is nearly reached it's end point so I expect a flood of people in a short time in here.
Red Liquorice
Member
Thanks for the offer, I want to earn them though
I did just get a Chaos shield in Aldia's Keep. The RNG in Souls always seems funky to me, like sometimes it switches on and off.
Armour of Aurous is a fog door quit trick, but haven't done it yet myself. Mad Warrior, probably since it works for the other enemies in the same area.Gaf, does the console quit trick work for the Mad Warrior and Armour of Aurous fellow?
I'm swimming in Mad Warrior pieces from farming him for the Bellkeeper set, I think I'm about SM28m on this character (shame-faced). PS3 btw.
If you're on PS3, PM your PSN ID. I think I have that one on a 20M SM character.
mickcenary
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Blurst.
Why do I always neglect to mention the console I'm on? 360 Many thanks, though, guys.
Stormtrooper, thanks for that bit of info, because my MW has seemingly stopped dropping things altogether. That being said, I do not recall ever not picking up a drop, so not having the leggings doesn't quite add up. I might just ascetic the Luna for the heck of it.
Why do I always neglect to mention the console I'm on? 360
Many thanks, though, guys.Stormtrooper, thanks for that bit of info, because my MW has seemingly stopped dropping things altogether. That being said, I do not recall ever not picking up a drop, so not having the leggings doesn't quite add up. I might just ascetic the Luna for the heck of it.
mickcenary
Member
Sol *cough* *cough*
Well, I don't see any other option here. I'm leaving GAF forever.
EDIT: I'm reading that the significantly faster save times on the 360 make the fog door trick a lot... Trickier. I guess I'll give it a go at some stage and find out for myself.