Wuthering_Heights
Banned
Yeah, I'm tempted to go with Master Key, if only for the great sword/shield you can get early on with it, but.. I want to try and play it "properly" the first time through.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition |OT| Durante Does In 23 Minutes What From Can't
- Thread starter indigo-cyclops
- Start date
Yeah, I'm tempted to go with Master Key, if only for the great sword/shield you can get early on with it, but.. I want to try and play it "properly" the first time through.
It's an option that is presented to you, how is it not "properly" choosing the Master Key?
rogerroger22
Member
rogerroger22
Member
and also the default gift for Thiefs, my first character was a Theif just so I could pick master key + another gift, I made the foolish mistake of the Tiny Ring...what a let down that one was.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
Which is why properly is in quotes. It's not the proper way, per say, but more allows you to blaze your own trail instead of following the trail of getting each different key that opens each door.
rogerroger22
Member
....bland level design? ehh...what? If anything - I think this game has some of the best level design I've seen in a game recently. Sure, there are a few exceptions - but as a whole, I think it's damn fine.
It's efficient, minimal full, almost every area has a purpose - it all ties in/interconnects in a smart way. Nice variation in environments, from the brown-sludge of Blight Town, to the gleeming city of Anor Londo, to the maze-like Catacombs.
For the most part, I think it has some of the most thoughtful level design I've seen recently.
Although I will agree with the game not being 'that hard' (it's still hard...but not as hard as others make it out to be). It just requires a certian patience / mindset that is lost with most gamers. People are used to charging in blindly, spamming their heaviest attack and being able to heal without consequence -- not so much in this game.
Little bit of patience and observation goes a long way, once you start to memorize things - you can rip through it very fast. Seriously, people can beat this game in around an hour -- still boggles me to watch them pull it off
and who knows how long they spent perfecting their game before they were able to accomplish that.So I now got the Wolf Ring and what shall I say? Capra Demon was easy as piss. Not. He's still killing me within seconds. I had him down 3/4 once because of glitching and shit but then he still got me. Also the game starts crashing on me now.
So anyone helping me with this fucker? If not I guess I'm done with the game.
So anyone helping me with this fucker? If not I guess I'm done with the game.
rogerroger22
Member
...sounds like you need a break from the game. Don't think I've heard someone have quite so many problems with this boss before.
JeTmAn81
Member
Bad level design is one thing this game definitely doesn't have. A significant part of its appeal is the variety of level design, with creative choices in art style and spatial placing for each new area, which invites you to continue exploring deeper into this twisted world you've discovered.
somesplace
Neo Member
you sound really, really bad. you should just quit.
the_prime_mover
Member
What level are you? How would I join your game if we are similar levels? On my most recent playthrough I was definitely under powered when I faced him (lvl 6) and I had to hang out on the ledge just off to the right at the top of the stairs and through fire at him (or fire bombs) and do the dropping R1 slash when he was beneath me.
I don't know. 26 or 27 or so. I guess we'd need to "meet" there, so we actually meet in steam and then go there and chat via steam. I don't know.
JeTmAn81
Member
I feel a little bit bad about the Capra demon because I didn't end up having to fight him for real. He stomped me instantly the first time I met him, then the next time I had a companion who ended up killing him shortly after he killed me again, but I still got credit for the kill. It was all over so fast.
cleveridea
Member
The wolf ring is just one element, all that part does is add some poise. You still have to block with a nice stability shield and heal properly, you can have +2 estus flasks by this point, put some points into vitality, use an estoc behind a shield with resin = one hit dog kills.
what soul level are you?
old manatee
Banned
Did you try to summon someone? The guy I summoned just sat on the steps for the whole fight with his shield up and it still made it 100 times easier just to have someone to draw attention away.
Sometimes they are in front of his door and sometimes they are back on the stairs that lead up to the undead burg. The ones with the well at the bottom.
if you reverse hollowing at a bonfire, you can see summon signs. I'm sure you'll see some in front of Capra's door. I have a character around that level that I could help you out with later today
I think the highlight for me in this version was when I relalized I cleared Sen's without dying once, on my first try. I spent a few days in the when I played the game on 360. It was over in like 30 minutes. Pretty nice sense of accomplishments.
However, when I look at ENB vids, I realize I'm a bad player. I can never play as skillfully as that guy, I always use a ton of potions, and over-level before I get to any area. Still, I love the game, but I kinda feel like I'm cheating at times.
However, when I look at ENB vids, I realize I'm a bad player. I can never play as skillfully as that guy, I always use a ton of potions, and over-level before I get to any area. Still, I love the game, but I kinda feel like I'm cheating at times.
cleveridea
Member
whats ur character and equipped weapons/spells? How many estus?
I was a SL 29 dex/pyro with +5 balder sword, hollow shield, light armor and used the block at start for initial attack. moved to stairs, took out dogs (both in first single hit) and then moved back and forth using entire length corridor to get away to heal, and on stairs and up to make some space
I had 10 estus (+2) and used them all, killed capra first time. You have to not panic! thats the hard part!
Pyro, level is around 25 I think. I need two hits for the dogs. Currently have 10 heaing potions and a healing scroll. Not enough energy isn't the issue, it's dieing too fast and not being able to use the energy at all.
the_prime_mover
Member
I loaded up Dark Souls just now and it says that my save is corrupted. I have a backup created with GameSave Manager, but how do I use that save in the game? It seems to be a different file format...
I gotchya. I've complained in this thread several times about summoning not working very well on the PC version. It is quite frustrating and I hope they fix it. You should be able to get someone eventually though, although I agree standing around for an hour is a waste of time.
Not sure what you've tried for Capra but here are some tips, apologies if they're repeated suggestions or if I've said this to you specifically already, who can remember:
- Buy an alluring skull from the undead female merchant in the aqueduct. Throw it as soon as you enter the fog door. This works really well to distract Capra enough for you to run to the stairs and take care of the dogs. Although I will say that sometimes Capra does not give a fuck about your alluring skull and he will just target you instead.
- If you have an estoc or spear, you can safely pummel the dogs from behind a shield - extremely useful.
- Enter the room, Block/dodge capra's first attack, zigzag to the right back corner and then to the stairs, have the dogs chase you up the stairs and kill them. When capra comes up he might be able to hit you a couple of times but he'll fall. Do a plunging attack when you're above him and you'll likely take out half of his health in one hit.
- If you happen to have chosen the master key as your starting gift, you don't even need to fight Capra.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
I had that error too, just reload and try again, sometimes steam needs to sync.
the_prime_mover
Member
Yeah - that seemed to work. Thanks.
I am standing outside Capra right now, if that helps at all.
Just dropping in a massive thanks to CatPee for sending me a link where I can grab Dark Souls PC. He kicked me over the edge and I had to purchase for the good of all mankind. Downloaded now, so I will add the Durante Edition fix and then see how I get on. Will have to use Keyboard and Mouse fix till my wired pad arrives.
I'm level 50 and can't find a single summon sign for seath. Am I wayyy off on levels for this area or what? I spent all day after work yesterday alternating between looking and leaving my own summon signs without a single bite. For the past few bosses its been that way. Had no problems earlier in the game or back when it came out on ps3. I thought it would be an easy summon on seath since people want the tail. I'm pretty sure I could solo him if I don't go for the tail and I don't need it, but I do love collecting all the things and having a coop partner and the opportunity is gone forever once you kill the boss.
Psy-Phi
Member
I don't know what it is but after Undead Parish, and possibly just before Queelana, I can't ever seem to find summon signs on any character I've played, dating back to the PS3 release. I've been all over the place in level, from finishing the game a first time at SL 30 to finishing at SL 120 and a few in between. I wish the game had suggested levels for certain areas, or could notify the player in some way if you were below or above the curve for the area you were leveling up in.
Ghost Dad the Whip
Member
Any tips for
I happen to know I need to beat it to get
Resorted to Reverse Hollowing in order to try and get some help, even found
I think I'm doing fine, ducking in for a quick attack with
Gonna run out of my precious Humanity soon! Help!
the gaping dragon fight?
I happen to know I need to beat it to get
the Key to Blightown
Resorted to Reverse Hollowing in order to try and get some help, even found
a summon for Solaire
my +7 Halberd, and back out. Got him down to 50%. But inevitably I get one-shot somewhere along the way. Is there any trick to this fight other than just patience and well.. patience?
Gonna run out of my precious Humanity soon! Help!
He's the easiest boss in the game. Just stay away from it until it goes flat and charges, then wallop on his ass till he goes upright again. Repeat until dead.
Finally. You've been on the edge for a while.
Ghost Dad the Whip
Member
Ah, I've been going for his head
I'll just take my time with his backend
Thanks for the assurance lolz
as the tail item won't be usable by my low str char.
I'll just take my time with his backend
Thanks for the assurance lolz
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
If you freed the gold knight Lautrec from Undead Parish you should be able to summon him too. His sign is in the same area around the corner from where you summon Solaire.
Tips for the fight in general are to keep moving. Try to stay near his side. The front is dangerous because of grabbing and slam moves and the back has a nasty tail swipe. Basically wait from him to slam down and charge and then get a few hits in while he is stunned.
Don't forget to run when he jumps into the air and keep your eye on his position.
Pinwheel would like to have a word with you.
And any boss can be challenging the first time you face it without knowing what to expect. Dark Souls rewards patience above all else.
Yup, only boss in the game I beat on my first try.
rogerroger22
Member
Two possible ways of dealing with him are..
Especially with #2 - don't get cocky and try and sneak in an extra attack, back up. Too many times in this game have I gone to take an 'extra easy hit' during a recovery phase like this (Havel..looking at you mate...) , only to get smacked across the screen and killed due to being over confident.
1. Wait for him to get onto the ground, stay around his back and hack at his tail
2. Wait for him to get onto the ground, do his 'head smash' attack, and take a few shots on his tiny head
2. Wait for him to get onto the ground, do his 'head smash' attack, and take a few shots on his tiny head
Especially with #2 - don't get cocky and try and sneak in an extra attack, back up. Too many times in this game have I gone to take an 'extra easy hit' during a recovery phase like this (Havel..looking at you mate...) , only to get smacked across the screen and killed due to being over confident.
If you start by cutting the tail off, you can safely move behind as well, making the fight a lot easier.
FINALLY took down the stray demon after dying like two dozen times! Equipped the black leather armor and the lightest gears I have, replaced my Uchi+5 with the bandit's knife, and I moved around like goddamned feather poking at his ugly ass butt whenever there was an opening! Also equipped havel's ring hoping for an extra effect.
This was my first time using a light set of armor and the change was... wow! I could do back-to-back rolls without pauses. This fight was an essential lesson for me as so far I've been tanking everything -- dodging, back stepping, side stepping and attacking. Now I've finally learned the art of rolling.
This was my first time using a light set of armor and the change was... wow! I could do back-to-back rolls without pauses. This fight was an essential lesson for me as so far I've been tanking everything -- dodging, back stepping, side stepping and attacking. Now I've finally learned the art of rolling.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Pinwheel took you more than one attempt?
zephervack
Member
Worst part about this fight is the stupid "magic" gas he releases, its to random and unfair, I still havent defeated him
.Charmicarmicat
Banned
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
He rewards humanity, rite of kindling and has his own cut scene...Can you even count him as a boss though?
lol, Asylum Demon was harder
You can buy it from Shiva in blight town if you join the forest hunters.
I know, I'm just cheap and would rather save the the souls to level up. I've been killing this fucker the past hour and he won't drop it.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
I've been doing a little more reading.
Are DEX builds really as bad as people say?
I wanted to start off as a Wanderer and maybe go dex instead of strength, but...
Are DEX builds really as bad as people say?
I wanted to start off as a Wanderer and maybe go dex instead of strength, but...
rogerroger22
Member
People say dex builds are bad? They seem to be very popular --- they have a great selection of weapons, and the faster move sets are easier to use for many people.
In PvP, the bleed damage is very handy - and with minimal int investment you can get Magic Weapon / Great Magic Weapon which can be rather deadly when applied (for a little more, Crystal Magic Weapon).
Crystal Magic Weapon + a Washing Pole is a rather deadly combo.
In PvP, the bleed damage is very handy - and with minimal int investment you can get Magic Weapon / Great Magic Weapon which can be rather deadly when applied (for a little more, Crystal Magic Weapon).
Crystal Magic Weapon + a Washing Pole is a rather deadly combo.
I've gotten them off the Capra's in the demon's ruins pretty consistently.
zephervack
Member
So thats what happens in the Demon's Ruin, I just found this place after beating Quelaag and my first reaction was, NOPE, and went to Sens Fortress.
Dex builds are fine, they know not of what they say.