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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition |OT| Durante Does In 23 Minutes What From Can't
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After more than 2000 hours on the PS3 version, I finally started the PC version 2 days ago and... it's strange. The feeling of the game isn't exactly the same as on PS3. Is it because the frame rate is different? For instance Rolls and jumps in particular became more difficult to gauge...
I have a quite powerful PC and tried to increase/decrease the effects of dsfix to see what it does but I ended up disabling all the AA and bilinear filtering because I don't like the effects.
What are the recommended ones?
Also sometimes and for no reason, the frame rate drops during 1-2 sec. I noticed it especially when you change area. Really strange because I did never notice that on PS3.
I have a quite powerful PC and tried to increase/decrease the effects of dsfix to see what it does but I ended up disabling all the AA and bilinear filtering because I don't like the effects.
What are the recommended ones?
Also sometimes and for no reason, the frame rate drops during 1-2 sec. I noticed it especially when you change area. Really strange because I did never notice that on PS3.
Yes, if you can't maintain a solid 60fps it's not worth enabling 60FPS. The console framerate is bad but dropping from 60FPS to 40 for a second or two like you mentioned is really jarring. I know what you mean, it changes the feel. That's why I still play the PC version at 30fps even though I can run much more demanding games at 60 fine. Although I keep FPS unlock ON in DSFix, and cap it at 30. I get better performance this way, a smooth 30fps that feels better than consoles. As for DSFix effects, I mostly use it just for the increased rendering resolution. I render the game at 1440p, my monitor is 1080p so that downscaling takes care of aliasing, and it looks great. In fact, the game performs better for me when I choose a high rendering res, otherwise my GPU goes into low power mode or something. I also have AO on, but the intensity set to the lowest because it looks too dark to me otherwise.
Refreshment.01
Member
Really weird, even for a game like this, that the creators designed a level like "Tomb of the Giants". It takes a lot of faith put on the shoulders of players from the developers part, to think most of them will go through this.
Let me explain, you can't see anything. I got like 40 pebles and used them all, had to navigate by hugging everywall shield raised and hitting the targeting button constantly to aim spells at those giant skeletons.
And they didn't include say a spell or something to light the way. Also is too bad that the pebles that drop in shalow ground don't stay there forever, i was trying to create sort of safe pathway with those stones.
Anyway, this does comes as a surprise. So far is the level that has taken me the most time and tries.
Let me explain, you can't see anything. I got like 40 pebles and used them all, had to navigate by hugging everywall shield raised and hitting the targeting button constantly to aim spells at those giant skeletons.
And they didn't include say a spell or something to light the way. Also is too bad that the pebles that drop in shalow ground don't stay there forever, i was trying to create sort of safe pathway with those stones.
Anyway, this does comes as a surprise. So far is the level that has taken me the most time and tries.
there are three ways to see in tomb of giants:
a)
swapping your shield for the skull lamp you find in the catacombs
b)
using the miracle "light"
c)
equip the sunlight maggot (in lost izalith shortcut, needs level 2 chaos covenant)
it's one of my favorite areas of the game
so fucking tense
Refreshment.01
Member
I already killed Letho (sp?) . Should i see any of your spoilers? I've managed so far withouth using any kind of help, so i don't want to ruin anything and ill probably wont replay the game XD
Thagomizer
Member
Unless you are playing a non-English version, there is no one in the game named Letho, nor anyone close to that name I can recall.
Refreshment.01
Member
Or is it Lito? Or Nito?, that's the Lord of the death. He rest in a sarcophagus deep down the Tomb of the Giants. Has a cloud of miasma surrounding him, while sumoning skeletons. Isn't he the reason to go to the catacombs in the first place?
So with him
Refreshment.01
Member
Yes, yes but no.....
Tried the Skull lamp only thing it did was weak sauce swings. This is bad feedback on the side of the developers. It can't be solely my fault here. They should patch that up, but of course they won't. Bad design choice with this item.
Tried the Skull lamp only thing it did was weak sauce swings. This is bad feedback on the side of the developers. It can't be solely my fault here. They should patch that up, but of course they won't. Bad design choice with this item.
Arjen
Member
Ehm, did you try using L1 in stead of L2?
Refreshment.01
Member
Edit: Wait no, i assigned it to the right hand. It's not my fault entirely that i had to go through this section practicly blind folded.
Yes, i equipped the lamp in the right hand, yet it is absurd that it has a completly different function acording to in what hand rests. So i picked the lamp, read the description and equip it. Pressing buttons just promped the lamp to make swings and nothing else.
So of course i assume the description is false and it was just the writers way to "spice" the myth around the lamp a bit more.
What they should have done was, make the lamp cast light every time it swings that way i might get "clued in" and try to equip the lamp in the other hand.
They needed that type of feedback there for the player. Most of the game's charm rests in going in as clueless as possible, so i got screwed there for not consulting any sort of guide.
TheFeedingHand
Member
Got to the last boss and he killed me with like 3 attacks... Am I supposed to be super powerful at this time to survive several of his attacks?
eh I just figured a lantern would go in my left hand
I mean if you don't figure out it can be very punishing but that's dark souls in a nutshell
edit: I mean, you get a lamp just before the super dark zone, you gotta take that as a clue and experiment, shit like that
you're not really supposed to survive 3 attacks from anyone
Refreshment.01
Member
And experiment is what i did. That's why im resting part of default in the lack of feedback.
How's this for experimentation:
-Picked lamp, asigned to right hand. Lamp is out in hand everything is still dark. Not even an increase from the standard "spectral" light that emanates from the character.
-Touched every button, prompting the character to swing. No increase in lighting whatsoever.
-So ok, maybe the lamp needs to be charged. Aproach a Bon Fire, touch every button. Nothing.
-Wait, maybe those lights and candles in the enviroment. No.
-Wait, there where some lights in that room with the guy doing weird stuff. No.
-So ok then, maybe they got a bit creative with the lamp description and is just a special item to trade, give or plays a pasive roll in a subsequent quest.
Proceeds to go by the catacombs in almost total darkness just using pebles...
Cannon Goose
Member
Put it in your character's left hand and then hold L1/LB to hold it in front of you like a shield. That will cause it to light up your surroundings.
Saw the most hilariously lucky, blind ToTG run recently.
http://www.twitch.tv/themancalledblade/c/2379072
http://www.twitch.tv/themancalledblade/c/2379072
uh that's nice but like seriously I think using it in your left hand it's pretty obvious
like, by that time you're bound to have tried using a sword on your left hand or your shield in your main hand and seen that they act differently depending on which hand you equip them.
Red Liquorice
Member
It's not the best facial creation certainly. It's not super important though, a lot of helmets and headgear hide the face and when you're in hollow form your character is going to look even worse, like an unrecognisable decrepid zombie, so just do the best you can, but don't spend too long it's not really worth it!
Refreshment.01
Member
Well is too late, that's what im complaining about. I had to do the Tomb of Giants withotuh light.
There's no logic for not giving any feedback when the lamp is out no matter in what hands rests. If there was any in the first place then i would have easily figure out that i would need to equip the lamp in the left hand if i wanted to attack and light my way.
It's an oversight on From's part.
On a more positive subject i was pleased to see they have implemented dynamic shadows in the sequel when carrying a light source. DOesn't compensate for the fact that the game is targeted at the now crappy 360/ps3 specs but it is something. XD
Can someone help me with Gwyn? On PC? I've helped a couple guys slay Gwyn, but its too overwhelming for me solo...
what level are you
102
I have to kill bed of chaos and Nito, should take me 40 mins or so. I am level 125, so if you can level just a couple more times should be able to summon me.
Okay.
done, I can help with Gwyn now. I will put my sign down right next to where first black knight is. Just make sure you kill it before you look for my sign.
EDIT: White Sign Down, Starring Jamie Foxx and Channing Tatum.
I'm up to 104, I'm on my way
edit:
Killed by a black knight need an extra minute.
edit:
THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
Made a 'new build' while I was banned - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN63bIfywC4
Much more fun than previous ones, though slightly more fragile.
Much more fun than previous ones, though slightly more fragile.
Good matches. It's always a pleasure to watch.
I had to mute the video though because I'm not fan of that music you put.
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So a Lightning Great Axe +5 is a very nice way to go. You get 350 points of physical and electrical damage. I'm down in the Demon Ruins two-shotting Capras and three-shotting Tauruseseseses. I two-shotted Black Phantom Kirk and then I three-shotted another Black Phantom who I suspect was racist against the living. Also Demon Firesage, allergic it seems to either the veritable mass of iron or AC current coarsing through it.
This is the first weapon I've constructed that turned the game into flat-out easy mode in both PVE and PVP. It needs a 32 strength which you can get early on, titanite chunks from Anor Londo, and the slab from Demon No. 2 at the Asylum. So you can have this really powerful weapon as soon as you can warp, which is to say mid-game.
Not bad, not bad.
So a Lightning Great Axe +5 is a very nice way to go. You get 350 points of physical and electrical damage. I'm down in the Demon Ruins two-shotting Capras and three-shotting Tauruseseseses. I two-shotted Black Phantom Kirk and then I three-shotted another Black Phantom who I suspect was racist against the living. Also Demon Firesage, allergic it seems to either the veritable mass of iron or AC current coarsing through it.
This is the first weapon I've constructed that turned the game into flat-out easy mode in both PVE and PVP. It needs a 32 strength which you can get early on, titanite chunks from Anor Londo, and the slab from Demon No. 2 at the Asylum. So you can have this really powerful weapon as soon as you can warp, which is to say mid-game.
Not bad, not bad.
I am terribad at enhancing/leveling weapons, in my OG run, I had quite a few weapons pushed to +5, and a couple with elemental enhancements, a chaos katana (booty) and a lighting broadsword (booty) so, for NG+ I want to right the wrongs of my noobishness. The Lightning ascended Great Axe is the truth?
It's a Strength weapon with B Scaling, you should be taking it to +15, especially if you are going to at least 32 STR, and even more so if you go to 40. I could only see taking it elemental if you were min/maxing for 2H and only had 22 STR or something.
Elemental STR weapons make no sense though, they have B or A and one of them has S scaling at +15. So much more pure damage across the board against all enemies.
I've played this game for about 100 hours, and I don't understand a word of that. >.< "Scaling?"
Edit:
Its against my principle, but I guess I'll go read up on this on a wiki site.
weapon damage "scale" with certain stats. a weapon that has A scaling gets more damage out of that particular stat than a weapon with B or C scaling
so if you have a sword with 150 base damage, that has A scaling STR, and D scaling DEX, and you have 100 STR and dex, your final damage would be
150 + A * 100 + D * 100 = 150 + 1 * 100 + 0.25 * 100 = 275 final damage
don't pay attention to the actual numbers (I have no idea what the exact values would be, but just think S>A>B>C>D), but that's the logic behind how scaling works.
The Great Axe begins with Str C and Dex E. Once levelled up it gets a Str B. I prefer to do a +15 upgrade with a weapon that starts with Str B (like Demon Great Machete or Manserpent Greatsword) or even better one with Str A (like Demons Great Axe.)
For elemental weapons what is key is high base damage. There are weapons with high base damage but medicro stat scaling (such as Great Axe.)
The proof is in the Wiki! A regular +15 Greataxe deals 350 physical damage and you get B/E scaling. The Lightning Greataxe deals 350 phyical and 350 Lightning. You will never get 350 damage with a B/E scaling. In this case Lightning is the way to go.
Nah +15 is the way to go, always, unless you only have base stats for the weapon. With 40STR the greataxe has 599 AR, all physical, for one hand attacks. 599Physical > 700 Split damage, definitely.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Yep. This guy knows what he's talking about.
Never only look at the AR, people. Split damage makes a huge difference. Plus, non-split damage weapons can be buffed, whereas elemental and magic weapons can't.
Dark Souls GAF,
I just started playing this wonderful game for the first time and am absolutely blown away so far. Really digging the difficulty, lack of hand-holding, and incredible atmosphere. With that said, like all newcomers to this game, I'm having some difficulties. I know everyone says to go in blind, and I'm attempting to do that, but I just want to get a gauge on what should and shouldn't be approachable at the beginning so I am not banging my head against an immovable object.
I'm in the Undead Burg, SL 7 or so I believe.
Thanks for any advice!
I just started playing this wonderful game for the first time and am absolutely blown away so far. Really digging the difficulty, lack of hand-holding, and incredible atmosphere. With that said, like all newcomers to this game, I'm having some difficulties. I know everyone says to go in blind, and I'm attempting to do that, but I just want to get a gauge on what should and shouldn't be approachable at the beginning so I am not banging my head against an immovable object.
I'm in the Undead Burg, SL 7 or so I believe.
Near the beginning, I've encountered a knight with gold armor that absolutely murders me. My attacks can't even effectively pierce his armor so I figured, no sweat, I can come back it seems optional. I proceed a little further, up a tower and onto the ramparts above the Burg. On the ramparts, I'm assaulted by some ridiculously huge demon thing that just smashes me to pieces. As this part does NOT seem optional, am I supposed to kill him? I just want to make sure he is kill-able at my low level before I spend hours learning the fight. Perhaps I should be going a different route?
Thanks for any advice!
Laurentius
Member
Yeah, you'll want to kill it. (The second enemy you mentioned, not the first. You can kill the first, it's just a bit tricky at that level.)
A couple of quick tips on that boss that are spoiler tagged, in case you still want to fight him completely blind:
First, make sure you take out the archers by climbing up the ladder behind you before fighting him. Then, once he jumps off the building run BACK to where the archers were. Climb up, and then do a plunging attack on him. Does a ton of damage. You can also get some Gold Pine Resin that will give you lightning damage, which helps a ton in this fight. To get that, you need to go find the merchant in the Undead Burg, and buy the Residence Key. That'll open a door near that knight you saw, which will lead to a chest with the resin. Buff it up before fighting the Taurus demon.
The One Who Knocks
Member
No spoilers: Yes you should, and can, kill him.
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Very vague strategy hint:
Use the area to your advantage
More specific strategy hint (don't read unless you've tried a few times):
Look to your rear.
Very blunt strategy spoiler (basically how to win, I don't advise reading this unless you've spent hours on the area)
Go up the ladder.
Awesome, thanks for the tips guys! I'm not going to read your spoilered text at the moment but may have to give in later if I can't take him out on my own. Truly awesome how Dark Souls just throws you in the deep end right from the beginning. You want to take out these undead/demon lords? Have at it, no one is stopping you.
Laurentius
Member
Good luck! Overcoming the challenges of Dark Souls is some of the best experiences I've ever had in gaming. It's going to feel awesome when you beat this boss.