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[STARSBarry]

New Darktide update is finally out (and has been for a few days, iv just been having fun with it so forgot to post)

Finally this game has gone from "wait and see" to recommend, thanks to the itemisation overhaul. The old reward and drop system is still there, sort of, but it now works in tandem with the new overhauled crafting which makes perfecting these weapons much easier and guaranteed so long as you put enough time into the game vs the old Pure RNG ontop of RNG.


With the PS5 version getting rated in Asia and the games 2nd anniversary coming up this October, if you haven't taken the plunge and tried this on Gamepass, well worth a look now. Those on PS5 should be looking at this on its inevitable launch during that period.

 

[Luipadre]

Is it more optimized now on PC? I played this during launch month and it ran pretty badly. Not played since then

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Can't wait for the inevitable PS5 release, looking forward to it

 

[winjer]

Most importantly, has performance been fixed?
The optimization was non-existent when it was released. And even for many months after.

EDIT: I went on the Steam forums, and people are saying that performance is still terrible. Some even say it's worse now.
Screw that. If the devs can't be bothered to fix their game, then I can't be bothered to buy and play it.

 

[Luipadre]

Its indeed looks great



Maybe time to reinstall

 

[Mister Wolf]

I wish these guys would do a single player first person Warhammer game.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Just finished space marines. Can't wait to jump into this with the buddy's

 

[STARSBarry]

Most importantly, has performance been fixed?
The optimization was non-existent when it was released. And even for many months after.

EDIT: I went on the Steam forums, and people are saying that performance is still terrible. Some even say it's worse now.
Screw that. If the devs can't be bothered to fix their game, then I can't be bothered to buy and play it.

So this is the funniest shit ever (at least for me) the latest update included FSR 3.1 but they turned it on by defualt when you start the game. What makes this funny is that most people are now using an RTX card and DLSS, so if you have both on the performance absolutely tanks until you turn one or the other off, naturally for the majority of people with Geforce cards this would be FSR they don't want.

So people who don't check their options are having real issues hence the performance drop claims.

 

[winjer]

So this is the funniest shit ever (at least for me) the latest update included FSR 3.1 but they turned it on by defualt when you start the game. What makes this funny is that most people are now using an RTX card and DLSS, so if you have both on the performance absolutely tanks until you turn one or the other off, naturally for the majority of people with Geforce cards this would be FSR they don't want.

So people who don't check their options are having real issues hence the performance drop claims.

But FSR .1 doesn't reduce performance. It's usually a few fps away from DLSS, even in RTX cards.
It just doesn't have the same quality as DLSS. So it's preferable to use DLSS if you can.

 

[TheSHEEEP]

Is it more optimized now on PC? I played this during launch month and it ran pretty badly. Not played since then

Absolutely. I played it very close to release and had to turn everything down to low or mid to get acceptable performance.
Now I'm running everything on mid or high, and additionally with raytracing and the game is VERY smooth.

I do sometimes get a single frame drop for a second, but only in the hub area not during missions, so I suspect that is network-related.

What a pretty game, really. Shame you are usually under so much stress that you have no time to appreciate the architecture...

 

[STARSBarry]

But FSR .1 doesn't reduce performance. It's usually a few fps away from DLSS, even in RTX cards.
It just doesn't have the same quality as DLSS. So it's preferable to use DLSS if you can.

I am no expert but I believe that the issue is both tools need to produce a native image that is then used by both, because this is effectively a glitch (you cant switch FSR back on if DLSS is already on, its only because they turned it on by default even when DLSS was already on prior due to the update that this happens) My assumption is that instead of DLSS getting the image and then pushing it to FSR, both programs are asking for its own separate native image and using that and then displaying one of them (I assume FSR's) but this double native generation is effectively asking for 2x the game instance, so the performance tanks. All I can say is after the update the game ran AWFUL! I turned off FSR 3.1 because I figured that was the issue when I saw patch notes and noticed it was on and performance went back to 90+ frames.

 

[winjer]

I am no expert but I believe that the issue is both tools need to produce a native image that is then used by both, because this is effectively a glitch (you cant switch FSR back on if DLSS is already on, its only because they turned it on by default even when DLSS was already on prior due to the update that this happens) My assumption is that instead of DLSS getting the image and then pushing it to FSR, both programs are asking for its own separate native image and using that and then displaying one of them (I assume FSR's) but this double native generation is effectively asking for 2x the game instance, so the performance tanks. All I can say is after the update the game ran AWFUL! I turned off FSR 3.1 because I figured that was the issue when I saw patch notes and noticed it was on and performance went back to 90+ frames.

That is not how it works.
Whether you choose FSR, DLSS or XeSS, they run separate from each other. Each has their own dlls and their own code.
What they have in common is that, because they are temporal upscalers, they require access to Motion Vectors, Colour buffers and Depth buffers.
So the dev has to expose these in their game. Then each upscaler can read from them and to their magic.
But they don't interfere with each other.

Your problem was that maybe, with FSR3, it also auto enabled Frame Generation and that caused frame pacing issues for your system.

 

[STARSBarry]

That is not how it works.
Whether you choose FSR, DLSS or XeSS, they run separate from each other. Each has their own dlls and their own code.
What they have in common is that, because they are temporal upscalers, they require access to Motion Vectors, Colour buffers and Depth buffers.
So the dev has to expose these in their game. Then each upscaler can read from them and to their magic.
But they don't interfere with each other.

Your problem was that maybe, with FSR3, it also auto enabled Frame Generation and that caused frame pacing issues for your system.

whatever the case the performance was sub 30 and turning it off bumps it up to 90+, but that's the performance issue with Darktide as of this patch, prior to that it was alright, it was not anywhere as bad as it was at launch, they had to make it run on series S after all.

 

[Paltheos]

I played a little of this with my friends this week. Can't say I noticed performance issues on my relatively old PC (I'm still running a base 1080) but I'm also not the type to crank up the settings.

We had a lot of fun. Still figuring out the new game systems, but they seem more friendly than Vermintide 2's at this point.

 

[Ivory Samoan]

It's super good now, gave it a good 5 hour session, what an upgrade to loot systems and just the feeling of progression overall: nice work Fatshark!!

Too busy with Rogue Trader and Space Marine 2 to put heaps of time in, but seems to be playing better too: trialed it on my hoopdy office PC, well worn 3080, going guns now vs near launch lurking in the bad fps and stutters.

Still looks stunning on a 4090, like breathtaking, nothing seems to be broken, just fixes on this one it seems!

 

[Giallo Corsa]

I've been salivating over this game for a good few years now, in fact, It was one of the reasons why I got a series x back in November 2020...

Can't wait for it on the PS5 but...after Space marine 2 and its awful performance...can't say that I'm expecting it to run all that well with the myriad of on-screen enemies.

How does it run on the XSX ? Does it have a performance mode ?

 

[struggler_guts]

Are there new areas yet? Played a year ago and was very disappointed after coming off vermintide 2

 

[Hot5pur]

Thanks for the note. I may try to get back into it. I played the beta or demo or whatever and just thought it was meh

 

[STARSBarry]

just to note Darktide is currently 50% off, this is important because the game is now at that point where I would say "its good enough to give a go without a discount"

still no word on the PS5 release despite it being October and soon approaching the 2nd anniversary in November, I wonder if they plan to shadow drop it.

 

[winjer]

So I got the game for Steam, with the latest Humble Bundle.
And it runs a lot better than the PC Gamepass edition.
Frame times are hugely improved. The game still has stutters, but not as many. And frame rate is significantly higher.

 

[Hot5pur]

So I got the game for Steam, with the latest Humble Bundle.
And it runs a lot better than the PC Gamepass edition.
Frame times are hugely improved. The game still has stutters, but not as many. And frame rate is significantly higher.

Is it fun to play with randoms / is the community fairly nice?
Also saw it on Humble for $12 which is alluring however I wonder if it's going to be one of those games I play for a bit and drop very quickly.

 

[bender]

So I got the game for Steam, with the latest Humble Bundle.
And it runs a lot better than the PC Gamepass edition.
Frame times are hugely improved. The game still has stutters, but not as many. And frame rate is significantly higher.

Do you have a Deck?

 

[MadchesterManc]

So I got the game for Steam, with the latest Humble Bundle.
And it runs a lot better than the PC Gamepass edition.
Frame times are hugely improved. The game still has stutters, but not as many. And frame rate is significantly higher.

I've noticed that with a few games unfortunately. Luckily the Steam version of Darktide has always been good for me, outside of RTX reflections causing some weird frame drops in certain sections of missions. These days run without any RTX, and thanks to FSR frame gen (I use a 3090) that 90+ FPS before is now locked 120 and still feels great.

Is it fun to play with randoms / is the community fairly nice?
Also saw it on Humble for $12 which is alluring however I wonder if it's going to be one of those games I play for a bit and drop very quickly.

It's good these days, community has mellowed out compared to the early days. You'll usually have someone watching your back, tho you'll still get the odd spud charging at hordes, specialists and demonhosts blasting a paltry lasgun to everyone's annoyance

 

[Rush2112]

game is alright. community is shit for newcomers.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

PSA : gamepage is up on PSN, release is December 3rd, 40 Eurodollars for the normal edition (35 with the discount until.the 3rd if you're a Plus member).

 

[winjer]

Is it fun to play with randoms / is the community fairly nice?
Also saw it on Humble for $12 which is alluring however I wonder if it's going to be one of those games I play for a bit and drop very quickly.

Yes, it's fun to play, even with randoms.
For the price, and considering the bundle includes several other good games, it was worth buying.

Also, here is a trick. If you are not subscribed to Humble Bundle at the start of the month, wait a week or to, and they will send an e-mail with a discount.
I got this bundle yesterday for 10€.

Do you have a Deck?

No. Just a desktop PC.

I've noticed that with a few games unfortunately. Luckily the Steam version of Darktide has always been good for me, outside of RTX reflections causing some weird frame drops in certain sections of missions. These days run without any RTX, and thanks to FSR frame gen (I use a 3090) that 90+ FPS before is now locked 120 and still feels great.

Yeah, the Steam version runs a lot better than the version from the Microsoft store version. Probably because of UWP.
It's still not perfect, but I was very surprised at how much better it runs on Steam.

 

[GymWolf]

Yes, it's fun to play, even with randoms.
For the price, and considering the bundle includes several other good games, it was worth buying.

Also, here is a trick. If you are not subscribed to Humble Bundle at the start of the month, wait a week or to, and they will send an e-mail with a discount.
I got this bundle yesterday for 10€.



No. Just a desktop PC.



Yeah, the Steam version runs a lot better than the version from the Microsoft store version. Probably because of UWP.
It's still not perfect, but I was very surprised at how much better it runs on Steam.

Are games running better on steam compared to the windows store a common thing?
And how much less performance are we talking about?

 

[winjer]

Are games running better on steam compared to the windows store a common thing?
And how much less performance are we talking about?

Yes, it's frequent. But it varies from game to game.
Darktide and Call of the Sea, are the ones where I saw the biggest difference. And it was huge.
Others, the difference is smaller. But they always run better on Steam, than on the MS Store.
If you have a choice of where to play, never go with the MS Store version.

 

[GymWolf]

Yes, it's frequent. But it varies from game to game.
Darktide and Call of the Sea, are the ones where I saw the biggest difference. And it was huge.
Others, the difference is smaller. But they always run better on Steam, than on the MS Store.
If you have a choice of where to play, never go with the MS Store version.

I want to play stalker 2 but i'm not sure about it, 10 euros for a month of gamepass would be much easier to digest than paying 45+ euros for a steam key...

But if the game has to run like crap and ruin my experience i don't know anymore.

 

[winjer]

I want to play stalker 2 but i'm not sure about it, 10 euros for a month of gamepass would be much easier to digest than paying 45+ euros for a steam key...

But if the game has to run like crap and ruin my experience i don't know anymore.

It might run well enough on the Gamepass version.
But there is always the risk of issues with it. I had Gamepass Ultimate for nearly 3 years, and I lost count to how many times I had technical issues and then had to find solutions.
From issues with logins, issues with apps not starting, issues with performance, issues with the Xbox app.
Most of these issues were so random. Like one day everything was working perfectly and the next, everything was broken. maybe because of some update to an app, or the MS Store, or Windows.
Gamepass on PC is a freaking mess.

 

[ClanOfNone]

I wish these guys would do a single player first person Warhammer game.

For real. At least with Left 4 Dead i got a dozen or so fun hours running through the scenarios with bots.
Making a game multiplayer only with no bots is a surefire way to make sure I never try the game.
Dealing with randos in the real world is bad enough, doing it online is even worse.

 

[simpatico]

Have had some incredible moments with this game that take me all the way back to L4D type of feels.

 

[FunkMiller]

Space Marine 2 has kind of pissed on any desire I had to buy this, especially as it sounds like they’ve still not bothered putting in any actual story.

 

[GymWolf]

It might run well enough on the Gamepass version.
But there is always the risk of issues with it. I had Gamepass Ultimate for nearly 3 years, and I lost count to how many times I had technical issues and then had to find solutions.
From issues with logins, issues with apps not starting, issues with performance, issues with the Xbox app.
Most of these issues were so random. Like one day everything was working perfectly and the next, everything was broken. maybe because of some update to an app, or the MS Store, or Windows.
Gamepass on PC is a freaking mess.

Dude i'm the biggest gamepass pc trasher in the whole forum, i know how fucking shit it is

 

[PicoLordens]

Bought the game on Playstation but can't find the Imperial Edition content. Can soneone enlighten me?

 

[STARSBarry]

Bought the game on Playstation but can't find the Imperial Edition content. Can soneone enlighten me?

Not a playstation user but you should have it under the cosmetics tab. The premium.currency is self explanatory should just be there if you check the premium shop. Although I would wait for the 3rd as they plan to sell a discounted Death Korps set you can afford with them.

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

So apparently the game *does* have bot support and *can* be played solo in that when you start a mission it will be with bots but will fill with players if they join. Also, unlike Vermintide you can't level the bots which sucks, hopefully they add that at some point but for now I'm ready to dive in, I just know I'll love the gameplay loop, if I have to deal with randoms so be it

 

[Peroroncino]

downloaded it on gamepass, gonna give it a go once I'm done with stalker2

 

[WX3]

I played this at launch and I had a blast with it. So much so that I find it hard to jump back into which is a shame because it seems far better than when I played it. I'm installing it now, might as well give it a go! I've built a new PC since launch as well. The old unit did well enough at 1080p on DarkTide. It will be nice to turn up some the visuals because one thing this game nailed was the environments.

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Finished the prologue mission and the combat training. Shooting felt super stiff coming directly from Black Ops 6, went into settings to make some adjustments which helped a bit. Melee on the other hand feels fantastic (just as Vermintide did) with the DualSense haptics adding extra oomph, chainsword feels so fucking good. There are no graphical options on PS5 Pro, it's 4k60 out of the box, no fussing about, looks beautiful on my OLED. Apparently it runs the equivalent of High settings on PC, more info here:

Warhammer 40K Darktide PS5 Q&A - Pro Runs 4K@60FPS with High Settings; Ray Tracing Cost/Benefit Wasn't Favorable

Ahead of the PS5 launch of Warhammer 40K Darktide, we talked with Fatshark to find out more about this debut, including the PS5 Pro specs.

wccftech.com

Had a peek at the skill tree, looks extensive! I started as a Veteran but might switch up immediately to a class more melee focused. Went to start my first mission, kept getting error code 5002, uh-oh. Noticed a 7GB update started downloading so I hope it's related to that and not a sign of bullshit to come, let's see what happens.

 

[Scary_Larry]

Just picked this up for my PS5 Pro, first game I've purchased from the PSN store since getting it. Can't wait to dive in!

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Spent about 6 hours with Darktide, got my Zealot to lvl 16, enjoying it quite a bit! First and foremost this is a great showcase for the Pro, 4K60 with barely a hitch no matter how chaotic things get, some of the environments are amongst the best I've ever seen in a game, incredibly atmospheric with some truly stunning lighting. I will say there is occasional texture pop-in but it's a minor quibble.

Structurally things are a bit more chaotic than Vermintide for example. You're given this planetary map a bunch of random missions with no indication of what you're meant to do. Missions have a difficulty rating but no info on what level you should be, trial & error I guess lol. I got used to it after about an hour though, I'm now tackling level 3 mission where things really start to ramp up!

I'm happy to report you can immediately launch a mission solo and get into the action but chances are randoms will join your game 95% of the time. My experience with randoms has been mostly positive, I always try to be a team player and I've seen the same from those I've played with, no mics needed. The game should absolutely have competent bot support but as is it works well and relatively seamlessly.

I'm impressed with the level design, these are sprawling, multi-layered, labyrinthine playgrounds to really let loose on. I've settled on chainsword and bolt pistol as my "main" weapons and they both feel fantastic in no small part to the DualSense haptics. The action is fast and furious with plenty of intense by-the-skin-of-our-teeth moments. One oddity though: is there no dismemberment?? I've tried various weapons and haven't seen it yet which is beyond bizarre, battles would look and feel 10x better, Vermintide had it so I don't know what's up here.

Overall I'm having a blast, happy I picked it up. Don't know how much time I'll ultimately spend with it but for now it has my attention

 

[STARSBarry]

One oddity though: is there no dismemberment?? I've tried various weapons and haven't seen it yet which is beyond bizarre.

Are you in Germany, Austria or Japan by any chance?

 

[darth.shrimp]

Are you in Germany, Austria or Japan by any chance?

They mentioned playing on a Dualsense, isn't the game censored in every region on the PS5?

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Are you in Germany, Austria or Japan by any chance?

I'm in Japan but I've bought the NA version just as I have with other games like Space Marine 2, Resident Evil titles and even going back to Resistance 2 on PS3 which censored the Japanese version. Never experienced buying the NA version and it being censored so it's very weird

 

[STARSBarry]

They mentioned playing on a Dualsense, isn't the game censored in every region on the PS5?

Iv not double dipped so can't confirm with PS5 but...



Im seeing heads and limbs going flying here. All I know is Germany, Austria and Japan are confirmed to be censored.

The censorship was patched in, at least for PC. So potentially it might download and censor depending on what region the playstation is set to rather than it being on disc. Like Xbox and PC players had no censorship in the above countries but then they patched the game on early PS5 launch and suddenly all the complaints happened at once.

 

[Mr. Steve]

Iv not double dipped so can't confirm with PS5 but...



Im seeing heads and limbs going flying here. All I know is Germany, Austria and Japan are confirmed to be censored.

The censorship was patched in, at least for PC. So potentially it might download and censor depending on what region the playstation is set to rather than it being on disc. Like Xbox and PC players had no censorship in the above countries but then they patched the game on early PS5 launch and suddenly all the complaints happened at once.

Can confirm for PS5 Netherlands version - chopping heads left and right.

For the Emperor!

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Im seeing heads and limbs going flying here. All I know is Germany, Austria and Japan are confirmed to be censored

So I logged into my NA account and when I go to video options I get this:

On my main account (which is a Japanese PSN) I only get FOV, Brightness and Motion Blur settings. This is some real bullshit and makes zero sense, I can play the game fully uncensored in the same physical location just based on the PSN account region

 

[STARSBarry]

So I logged into my NA account and when I go to video options I get this:

On my main account (which is a Japanese PSN) I only get FOV, Brightness and Motion Blue settings. This is some real bullshit and makes zero sense, I can play the game fully uncensored in the same physical location just based on the PSN account region

Yay I love being correct!

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Yay I love being correct!

I'm playing on my NA account now, what a night and day difference, Jesus fucking Christ. Players in those countries are getting fucked though it can be bypassed, what a retarded decision from FatShark. Playing Black Ops 6 zombies on my JPN account and all the gore is intact