Dave2D on Legion Go S: Windows Was The Problem All Along.

I like his shoulders shrugs.
Yea, why hasn't Microsoft improved the gaming experience on handhelds?
2025, Not one leaked screenshot from Microsoft showing they are doing anything.
I guess that one guy working in the mop closet with a tiny laptop is the only person working on Microsoft gaming handheld stuff. He's not talking to anyone.

I spilled coffee in the break room. Can you take care of that for me?
 
It's wild how power hungry Windows 11 is on these PC handhelds compared to SteamOS.

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Edit: Perf is notably better as well in some games.

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is this a different version than what's in stores now? I was looking at getting a handheld but want the official steam OS. The local best buy has z1 not the S's and the ones I do see are White not Purple. What the most modern fastest handheld for steam OS right now?
 
Windows not being able to sleep has been a meme on computers and laptops since 1993. MS probably can never fix it because the Windows NT kernel is just so ancient and was never designed to do it

Meanwhile I close the lid of my MacBook, it sleeps. I open it, it wakes. Never any issues with it randomly turning on or draining the battery or getting hotter than the Sun while sleeping like every Windows laptop ever
 
Unknown Soldier said:
Windows not being able to sleep has been a meme on computers and laptops since 1993. MS probably can never fix it because the Windows NT kernel is just so ancient and was never designed to do it

Meanwhile I close the lid of my MacBook, it sleeps. I open it, it wakes. Never any issues with it randomly turning on or draining the battery or getting hotter than the Sun while sleeping like every Windows laptop ever
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Windows is fine for desktops.

For laptops and tablets it's just awful though.

MacBook and iPad every time.
 
It would be very interesting to see Steam OS on the upcoming Legion Go 2 with Z2 Extreme.
Probably a whole new tier of performance and battery life in the handheld gaming pc market.
 
Trash OS runs games designed specifically for it far worse than OS that basically emulates them (yeah I know, it's now exactly emulation)

Microsoft is by far the worst thing that has happened in the history of personal computing
 
windows 11 is a bloated pos. It's not made for handheld devices.
Honestly people shitted on vista but it was better than this crap with service pack.

I don't have a lot of problems with it but 100mb calculator update every few days is nonsense
 
I know, I basically moved to Windows, in my 6700 XT games run like with a little better configs, frame rate and resolution above PS5, on Linux this GPU runs games like FF7R at 4K all above 60, to get are small graphical glitches and I can't have HDR on non Steam games but so far it's a way more fluid, way more responsive, crisper experience.

The only problem is GPU drivers for newer models like 9070 XT which if I get it I'll have to stick to Windows.

Windows takes like 15% to 20% of my GPU performance IDK why... I just can't play Horizon Zero Dawn or FF7R in 4K they're without frame rate tanking to 40s, while on Linux in always above 60 at that resolution.

There needs to be gaming only Windows version, the full flat system is just BS for gaming and I didn't realize until I installed Linux.

The only other problem I have with Linux is that I can't screen capture with discord on Gamescope and I hope it has a solution any time soon, that feature is important for me because I tend to play streaming on discord and if a friend joins the call we can conversate about whatever and most of the time they join or start streaming themselves so other friends join and so on.
 
Honestly a reminder that PC gaming has grown DESPITE Microsoft and not because of it.

Downloaded the image today, and will see if my wife is open to installing it on her ROG Ally X.
 
Topher said:
Time to go all in on Linux?

Season 9 Yes GIF by Friends
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I would if not for the nvidia driver performance situation.

But if things stay the same and AMD GPUs continue to make the strides that they are currently making then I'll simply switch over to AMD when the next generation of cards drop and say goodbye to windows in the process.

Microsoft had years to sort this out for their gaming customers, but just their luck, as soon as they prepare to transition their Xbox customers over to windows Valve start making a big push with Linux. Interesting times ahead.
 
In my honest humble opinion all PC gaming handheld devices should have a dual boot option right out of the box and hopefully with the release of Steam OS for other handhelds this is the beginning of a new trend.

I think more people would be interested in these handhelds if they had an easy "Switch" interface.
 
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GHG said:
I would if not for the nvidia driver performance situation.

But if things stay the same and AMD GPUs continue to make the strides that they are currently making then I'll simply switch over to AMD when the next generation of cards drop and say goodbye to windows in the process.

Microsoft had years to sort this out for their gaming customers, but just their luck, as soon as they prepare to transition their Xbox customers over to windows Valve start making a big push with Linux. Interesting times ahead.
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I'm dual booting bazzite and windows as of today. Not ready to jump in head first. Going to test out bazzite on the desktop and see if it performs as well as it does on handheld
 
It's the same old story with MS. At some point they need to Introduce a new OS built from the ground up that's not reliant on compatibility with previous gens. There should be a classic windows for Business and a new consumer windows X.
 
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Interesting to see his thoughts on the first official third party device with SteamOS after testing the Windows version a while ago.

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I wish the Steam OS suspend and wake features were available on desktop Linux.

I tried a Linux distro on my new computer, and I could not get it to sleep, as it would instantly wake itself up a second later.

It is obvious that Valve is the best thing to happen to Linux in years, and I won't be going back until Steam OS or its features are more widely available.
 
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SardineBreath said:
In my honest humble opinion all PC gaming handheld devices should have a dual boot option right out of the box and hopefully with the release of Steam OS for other handhelds this is the beginning of a new trend.

I think more people would be interested in these handhelds if they had an easy "Switch" interface.
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This will literally never happen because MS will never officially allow dual-booting Windows with a competing OS

To this day, Windows Boot Manager is designed to be as fragile as possible so fucking around with your bootloader will frequently break booting Windows. This is by design. MS does not want you to boot anything but Windows
 
I was hating on steam os but these are impressive numbers. Is there a way to get official steam os on rog ally z1e?

Also I was thinking can you run this on a desktop? Probably would need an amd cpu and gpu but would be interesting seeing if there is a performance increase on desktop using steam os.
 
buenoblue said:
I was hating on steam os but these are impressive numbers. Is there a way to get official steam os on rog ally z1e?

Also I was thinking can you run this on a desktop? Probably would need an amd cpu and gpu but would be interesting seeing if there is a performance increase on desktop using steam os.
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Yes, there is a couple of tutorials on youtube for installing on Rog Ally. I'm trying this on my desktop currently, but yeah, I have an AMD GPU.

Edit: well.....I was actually using bazzite so I downloaded steamos and tried to install it, but no luck. My computer won't run the installer. Strange.
 
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Question. Is it sure it is due to Windows and not the drivers? SteamOS uses Mesa drivers which have always been way ahead of the proprietary AMD drivers in Windows.
 
crazyriddler said:
Question. Is it sure it is due to Windows and not the drivers? SteamOS uses Mesa drivers which have always been way ahead of the proprietary AMD drivers in Windows.
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From what I could find, drivers don't cause that level of battery difference. The MSI Claw devices run Intel, and they don't seem to have much better battery life than AMD devices when running Windows.
 
Hopefully, Valve starts making SteamOS available for Intel/AMD laptops and then, for desktops (mainly all-AMD or Intel CPU/AMD GPU builds) in the near future. Laptops will especially benefit from the smaller overhead.
 
I do hope that these Xbox branded consoles have good OS on them. While I enjoy SteamOS I'd like there's still a steep learning curve for Linux and getting games and launchers outside Steam to run on my Steam Deck.

Windows right now on handhelds just looks like a horrible experience and performance pretty bad.
 
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hinch7 said:
I do hope that these Xbox branded consoles have good OS on them. While I enjoy SteamOS I'd like there's still a steep learning curve for Linux and getting games and launchers outside Steam to run on my Steam Deck.

Windows right now on handhelds just looks like a horrible experience and performance pretty bad.
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If you use Bazzite, the learning curve is about as straightforward as it gets. Its so damn easy to use.
 
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