Monty Mole
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Been enjoying this online, but a little frustrated that they didn't include the additional 5 tracks from the Dreamcast version. 3 tracks may be faithful to the original arcade game, but it's still light on content!
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DAYTONA USA |OT| This is your crew chief. You're in a rolling start...
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herzogzwei1989
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I don't miss the tracks from the Dreamcast version, I miss the tracks from Daytona USA 2.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
The tracks in Daytona DC were pretty bad.
I mean they were nice in the sense that there's some new places to race, but they really can't compare to the original 3.(plus everything is a waste thanks to the awful handling model)
Music was real good though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Kayw_v05w
Even the remixes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMOqGaNnCPI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aePE2bJAg98&feature=related
Sega should push the initiative. Daytona 3.
I mean they were nice in the sense that there's some new places to race, but they really can't compare to the original 3.(plus everything is a waste thanks to the awful handling model)
Music was real good though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Kayw_v05w
Even the remixes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMOqGaNnCPI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aePE2bJAg98&feature=related
Sega should push the initiative. Daytona 3.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I was always disappointed that none of the updates for this game ever added a track on-par with the original Expert course. Circuit Pixie was laughable. Was the Beginner track too tough for people or something?
Sixfortyfive said:
You said it right there. This is why I often end up giving myself the Jean Luke Picard face palm every time anyone mentions the Dreamcast version with a smile.
I do not rate the Dreamcast version of Daytona USA. If I want more tracks on the Xbox360/PSN version of Daytona USA (which I do) then I want each new track to match or surpass the original 3. If they do not surpass the originals then I do not want to know as I would prefer the developer not to include them. In honestly, the only thing the Dreamcast had going for it - other than numbers - was there were 2 good songs in the game (Rin Rin Rink: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Kayw_v05w, Mermaid Lake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgOhkWFH5zc) but the song weren't memorable and they don't increase the intensity of the race like Daytona USA and Daytona USA 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpzvgQSHWpk).
Also the handling lacked lots of depth in comparison with the original game. Daytona USA is the "TETRIS" of Driving games for a reason (best description is within my 4th post on this page: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=449659&page=13 ) and the Dreamcast version didn't hold the cradle to that crown by using the same mechanics. If I can put it another way... the mechanics in Daytona USA is so good that are 18 years I am STILL discovering new racing lines, acceleration & gears techniques, and different forms of driving on courses I've played countless times. There are very few arcade driving games that provide that level of depth.
All that is left for me to say is this: If you are going to make a sequel to Daytona USA then it must be done properly with the same core product "X" that the original developers has envisioned for Daytona USA or don't do it at all. Also, do not include any game features for the sake of having a feature because quality over quantity (numbers) is more important. This is why Daytona USA 2 is so damn incredibly awesome because the team behind it put their mind, heart and soul into the development of the game and really understood the X-factor of Daytona USA.
BTW - the best racing track I have seen lately is the new racetrack in that FORZA 4 demo. That track got SEGA "blue blu-skies" written all over it. That track is so well designed and it is so beautiful, memorable and exciting to race upon. I give Turn 10 two thumbs up for a great job on the course design of that track! If the game had more tracks of that quality then I would have purchased FORZA 4 in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, the final game does not and that is a massive shame because most of the other tracks lack that thrill factor in a great way.
Shaneus said:
Ah yes, it's incredible like that Medium course in Scud Race. Both of them are beautiful in their own way but I feel Forza 4 clinch on this one because the scenery is so breath-taking, it makes me want to head to the snowy mountains to bear down and breath-in the refreshing cold air.
herzogzwei1989
Banned
How do you make Jeffery flip or whatever on the expert track ?
Shaneus said:
Seriously. If INDY 500 gets released on XBL together with 8 players then I'll buy it in a heartbeat for that game is crazily fast with some excellent controls which blends together to provide a great adrenaline rush sensation. I got quite a few F1 and Indy racing fans so they'll go insane for INDY 500 like I've shown in this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYDUhfhxyNA
herzogzwei1989
Banned
I hope it sells well enough across both XBLA and PSN so that Daytona USA 2 is warrented.
east of eastside
Banned
Next:
Start the demand hype now.
Sega, get busy!
Start the demand hype now.
Sega, get busy!
herzogzwei1989
Banned
anyone want to play over PSN. hit me up: ajsuburbandude1
herzogzwei1989
Banned
Oh shit those Daytona USA 2 pics look HOT.
Drool.
Come on SEGA, port that bitch.
Drool.
Come on SEGA, port that bitch.
akilshohen
Member
New XBLA Rankings
It came in 2nd over a free game! Surprised at Real Steel though
It came in 2nd over a free game! Surprised at Real Steel though
herzogzwei1989 said:
I have the PS3 version, as I couldn't wait the extra day for the XBLA version. I downloaded the XBLA demo a few days later out of curiosity, just to see if there are differences.
I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned here, but I did find an immediate difference. The XBLA version's handling is worse. Where as the PSN handling is perfectly analogue and smooth, the XBLA is ever-so-slightly twitchy and digital. If I hadn't been playing the PSN version extensively, I might not have noticed it on the XBLA one.
It's no where near as bad as Daytona USA 2001, for example, but switching between the two and the XBLA handling is noticeably different. The PSN version is the one to get.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I don't have the XBLA version but I find that very hard to believe.
EDIT: Eh...maybe tomorrow.
EDIT: Eh...maybe tomorrow.
Starting to get the hang of drifting and driving in manual a little more now. Although I still hit the wall on the last turn in beginner more often then not.
Getting through the beginner challenges was surpringly not that difficult. But the same can't be said about the other tracks. I need a lot more practice before I can even begin to tackle them.
And it's been really difficult to find someone to race againest on PSN. Usually I can't find anyone playing online.
Getting through the beginner challenges was surpringly not that difficult. But the same can't be said about the other tracks. I need a lot more practice before I can even begin to tackle them.
And it's been really difficult to find someone to race againest on PSN. Usually I can't find anyone playing online.
skullwolfgp
Neo Member
herzogzwei1989 said:
The XBLA version doesn't support 3rd party wheels.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
How do you mean it doesn't support them?
Works fine on Fanatec wheels.
Works fine on Fanatec wheels.
herzogzwei1989
Banned
any idea how much Daytona has sold across PSN and XBLA ? I hope it's enough for Sega to concider porting the sequel.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Does the G27's H-shifter work with the game? Don't tell me I have to play with the paddles...
bishoptl said:
I think the official release only mentions the Driving Force GT.
How are the controls? Thats the thing that broke the game for me on Dreamcast, and I'm concerned how they have it playing on a controller. I have a DFGT but here I'm more concerned about the game breaking my wheel
- its probably the most physical driving game I've ever played (in the arcades), and at home I tend to play more sim stuff, being gentle with my inputs.Para bailar La Bomba
Banned
bishoptl said:
I think it's all Logitech wheels, which includes all Fanatec wheels too.
Dash Kappei said:
H-shifter reportedly works.
guitarhero
Member
east of eastside said:
Guess what:
Model 3 emulator
It's only at alpha stage (0.2) but it can run Daytona USA 2 and SCUD race with sound, controller support including FFB at a decent speed (and future versions could include a dynamic recompiler for more performance, but it could be while until it's released)
I'm having another DAYTONA USA session tonight on XBL. I won't be recording this one so I'm afraid you won't see any hard battles on Youtube, but at least you would get to battle hard against me and friends.
I'll be on around 9pm GMT, look out for GamerTag, "Kenshirou X". Feel free to add me to your Xbox LIVE friends list.
GENTLEMEN... START YOUR ENGINE!
I'll be on around 9pm GMT, look out for GamerTag, "Kenshirou X". Feel free to add me to your Xbox LIVE friends list.
GENTLEMEN... START YOUR ENGINE!
guitarhero said:
It really saddens to see that there are so many people in this thread who are unaware of SuperModel. You can basically play Daytona 2 and Scud in your living room all day every day. So many people asking for these games not even knowing it's right under their nose
aah.
We have some kind of celebration thing here at work today, and we have a tent full of arcade games, pool etc. Including 4-player F355 and 8-player Daytona! Spent ages on it and it brought memories flooding back - including how annoying broken gearsticks and failed FFB are.
So definitely up for some of this when it finally comes out on the euro PSN store.
(played the arcade version of GRID which was a lot of fun too, will look out for that on steam I think)
We have some kind of celebration thing here at work today, and we have a tent full of arcade games, pool etc. Including 4-player F355 and 8-player Daytona! Spent ages on it and it brought memories flooding back - including how annoying broken gearsticks and failed FFB are.
So definitely up for some of this when it finally comes out on the euro PSN store.
(played the arcade version of GRID which was a lot of fun too, will look out for that on steam I think)
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
isamu said:It really saddens to see that there are so many people in this thread who are unaware of SuperModel. You can basically play Daytona 2 and Scud in your living room all day every day. So many people asking for these games not even knowing it's right under their nose
I'm done with emulation *shrug*.
herzogzwei1989
Banned
Man I want Daytona USA 2 now, playing the Xbox version of OutRun2's Daytona USA 2 tracks is no longer enough.
VVV Mars VG
Member
I've been loving it, here's the first of 3 video blogs on it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ontOYvqQ5QE completed the whole game now and all challenges, some great online races and just never ending fun brining back those memories.
Lets hope the above titles all get a conversion and I'll be set for life.
Lets hope the above titles all get a conversion and I'll be set for life.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I might be around a little after that.Trojan X said:I'm having another DAYTONA USA session tonight on XBL. I won't be recording this one so I'm afraid you won't see any hard battles on Youtube, but at least you would get to battle hard against me and friends.
I'll be on around 9pm GMT, look out for GamerTag, "Kenshirou X". Feel free to add me to your Xbox LIVE friends list.
GENTLEMEN... START YOUR ENGINE!
herzogzwei1989
Banned
yay, another page!
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Holy moly!Para bailar La Bomba said:
The wait is even more unbearable now!
Isamu, isn't the supermodel emu still not capable of giving arcade perfect 60fps without hiccups onScud and Daytona 2 afaik?
Trojan X said:
People said the same about Dirt 3 and F1 2011 but the 360 versions are much much better than the PS3 ones.
Only got Daytona USA for the PS3 now so I haven't compared this game but when people say the difference is marginal it usually isn't.
Using Fanatec P911TS and it uses the H shifter. Never tried my G27 on it yet.
east of eastside said:Next:
If your PS3 has backwards compatibility with PS2 games you can get Sega Classics collection it has Virtua Racing. I have it and it plays great.
Don't have the game myself but PS2 has Sega Rally 2000 I think it was called. It has the arcade port of Sega Rally 1. Play it on your PS3 and enjoy.
Now I'm not the type to care about sales numbers but I'm interested in how this did.
For one I want it to outsell Sonic 4. lol
But most importantly maybe Sega will think about doing more of this. I want Virtua Fighter 1 and 2 more than some of the other racers myself I never got into Super GT myself maybe because I only played it twice. There was one Sega Le Mans game I used to play the shit out of that in the arcades it had day/night cycles in it...so good.
BruiserBear
Banned
I agree. I'd add Sega Rally 2 to the top of that list though.east of eastside said:Next:
Start the demand hype now.
Sega, get busy!
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Bah. Work kept me busy yesterday afternoon. Feel free to invite/join me if you see me on Live this weekend.
I'm still trying to finish an Enudrance Type B race. Got close once and then the host decided to drop. :/
I'm still trying to finish an Enudrance Type B race. Got close once and then the host decided to drop. :/
guitarhero
Member
Dash Kappei said:
Nope. But what do you want, the emulator is still in ALPHA version (it's not even a beta version) and it's running those games:
1) At decent speed (a good computer can get around 50 FPS, specially on Time Trial)
2) With only moderate (at worst) graphical glitches
Just give Bart Trzynadlowski (main programmer, writes on the Supermodel forum) time, remember: this is a worked-on-little-free-time-available project that started in April. It will get better.