Currently the team is a but stacked. Adding Jason would take away from some development. I would love to see him added later on. It's a shame Tim doesn't have his own book tho. Even a Tim, Steph, Cassandra book would be nice.
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DC Rebirth |OT| It's not a reboot, and it always was [SPOILERS for Rebirth #1]
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Currently the team is a but stacked. Adding Jason would take away from some development. I would love to see him added later on. It's a shame Tim doesn't have his own book tho. Even a Tim, Steph, Cassandra book would be nice.
Elaugaufein
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I'm kinda expecting Azrael and Bluebird to show up within a couple of arcs, since both are bookless at the moment. And it'd keep the teams current 50/50 gender balance.
Hmm, hopefully they hold off on that. I would rather everyone else get a bit more characterization and time devoted to them before. But down the line having them would be great.
I really wish they would just make a Robins book with everyone from Dick to Duke.
Same. I think a team up Robin book would be great. Extra points if not set in Gotham.
Wonder Woman #1- Way more appealing after that rebirthissue! The last page was fucking chilling. Now that is how you do a cliffhanger.
Wonder Woman #2
What a nice origin story, and I loved how We got Diana and Steve's life through panels all the way up to
Now this is how you take advantage of double shipping. Looking forward to seeing How Rucka ends these first two arcs. One in the past and one in future.
5/5 for both issues.
Love how some of the Dc books are about power couples .
Wonder Woman #2
What a nice origin story, and I loved how We got Diana and Steve's life through panels all the way up to
their meeting at the end
Now this is how you take advantage of double shipping. Looking forward to seeing How Rucka ends these first two arcs. One in the past and one in future.
5/5 for both issues.
Love how some of the Dc books are about power couples .
Elaugaufein
Member
I could see an Agents of the Bat series that is basically a rotating cast of however menu of the younger Bat and Bat adjacent cast that is necessary for mission(s) outside of Gotham.
I'd still want a Red Robin, Spoiler, Orphan series in Gotham though.
Bear Force One
Banned
Yeah WW has been stellar.
Detective comics #935
Not as good as the rebirth issue, but the dialog was great, and the characters are all given cool moments to shine.
Also Batman is a beast
Detective Comics #936
Another solid chapter, I should of seen that
I loved everyone's dialog about Batman being
Clayface is definitely the comedy guy but in a good way. The villain in this arc brings something new to the table
Overall 4/5. Orphan is my favorite character atm
Not as good as the rebirth issue, but the dialog was great, and the characters are all given cool moments to shine.
Clayface has a chance to run around looking human for a while, Orphan running around like a cat, Tim thinking of leaving the Cape life behind to pursue his studies, Batwoman having that talk with pa
Also Batman is a beast
Dude is about to take on 50 dudes
Detective Comics #936
Another solid chapter, I should of seen that
twist coming
taken out
What if Batman mobilized on a larger front. He could save more lives. This is what this arc is about
Overall 4/5. Orphan is my favorite character atm
Wished we were told how many dudes Batman was able to take out before being subdued.
That would of been awesome.
Nice. So you can refund a comic with amazon. I never read it and I'm hoping they can detect that. It was removed from my kindle already and from my purchase list. I'm hoping the comixology app updates too as that's linked to my amazon account. That version was never read either but did delete it from there myself and that certainly tracks if you've read the comic. Didn't give me an issues doing it but to check I looked at last week's comics and the option was gone so they very likely give you a time range to do it after you purchase. So I'm hoping this fully goes through. Returned Detective, Hal Jordon/Green Lanterns, and Nightwing. Kept Action, Flash, New Superman, and WW. Action I had already read and the others I do want to at least read and didn't seam right to try my luck with them all save Action.
Going to price out potential trades and see how that works with the budget and if I can deal with the wait.
Edit: Good. All three went through.
Going to price out potential trades and see how that works with the budget and if I can deal with the wait.
Edit: Good. All three went through.
Tragicomedy
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Action Comics #959 - ★★ - We're three books into this series, and it's starting to feel like a drawn out Dragon Ball Z fight. I can't get excited for Doomsday as a villain in 2016, just like I couldn't get excited for him in 1992. Calling him one-dimensional would be giving the character too much credit. Meanwhile, we've got all these potentially interesting questions being ignored in favor of large panels with Doomsday screaming, "AAAARRRRGGGHHHH!" Nope.
Detective Comics #936 - ★★★★★ - This book is hot fire! Love where everything is headed, perfect pacing, spot-on takes on the team. Brilliant comic.
The Flash #2 - ★- Everything from the atrocious art to a story that feels like I've read it five times already. Close to dropping it. This is a very bad book.
Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps: Rebirth #1 - ★★★ - This book wins an award for this week's most obnoxiously long name. Overall, a decent start to the new series, even for something I have not kept up with. I mean, absolutely nothing happened here, but this was a classic setup issue to establish the basics. Okay then.
New Super-Man #1 - ★★ - This book is not for me. I might revisit at some point in the future when it gets collected, but won't be picking it up at release.
Nightwing: Rebirth #1 - ★★★ - This has the makings of a fun book, especially if it riffs off the relationships and inherent contrasts between Dick and Batman. Damian is always a welcome addition to Nightwing stories, since they have a great dynamic and shared history. Optimistic for this series.
Wonder Woman #2 - ★★★★★ - I think I'm going to vastly prefer the Year One storyline to the modern half of this book. Everything about this was perfect for me. Great back and forth between Diana and Steve keeps everything zipping along nicely.
Detective Comics #936 - ★★★★★ - This book is hot fire! Love where everything is headed, perfect pacing, spot-on takes on the team. Brilliant comic.
The Flash #2 - ★- Everything from the atrocious art to a story that feels like I've read it five times already. Close to dropping it. This is a very bad book.
Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps: Rebirth #1 - ★★★ - This book wins an award for this week's most obnoxiously long name. Overall, a decent start to the new series, even for something I have not kept up with. I mean, absolutely nothing happened here, but this was a classic setup issue to establish the basics. Okay then.
New Super-Man #1 - ★★ - This book is not for me. I might revisit at some point in the future when it gets collected, but won't be picking it up at release.
Nightwing: Rebirth #1 - ★★★ - This has the makings of a fun book, especially if it riffs off the relationships and inherent contrasts between Dick and Batman. Damian is always a welcome addition to Nightwing stories, since they have a great dynamic and shared history. Optimistic for this series.
Wonder Woman #2 - ★★★★★ - I think I'm going to vastly prefer the Year One storyline to the modern half of this book. Everything about this was perfect for me. Great back and forth between Diana and Steve keeps everything zipping along nicely.
RepairmanJack
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This is why I wanted to like Batman and Robin Eternal so much but then it ended up being a piece of shit.
What's your complaints on New Super-Man? Really thought it was the most complete one issue of a comic that DC has done since Rebirth.
That...That doesn't answer my question in the slightest. Come on, man. :/
RepairmanJack
Member
Answer is no. Only thing that has really made a reappearance from the Rebirth one-shot is
the mysterious Oz guy in Action Comics
Aquaman #1-2
Very average, nothing was impressive about these two issues. Aquaman's fight with Manta was good, but the art brought it down.
Speaking of the art, it is the same quality as the first and rebirth issue, which is crap. The quality didn't drop, it was the same level of crap. I can't believe some of you like Echoshifting and lashley made a big deal about this. Really laughable.
2/5. Will drop soon
Very average, nothing was impressive about these two issues. Aquaman's fight with Manta was good, but the art brought it down.
Speaking of the art, it is the same quality as the first and rebirth issue, which is crap. The quality didn't drop, it was the same level of crap. I can't believe some of you like Echoshifting and lashley made a big deal about this. Really laughable.
2/5. Will drop soon
Doctoglethorpe
Member
I dont really see the big deal about the art in Aquaman. Its nothing special, but its passable. Certainly not worse than JL Rebirth.
I agree its not very interesting though. The premise is solid but the execution is lackluster. After the first arc is complete im dropping it. The next arc sounds really stupid anyways.
I agree its not very interesting though. The premise is solid but the execution is lackluster. After the first arc is complete im dropping it. The next arc sounds really stupid anyways.
In my search for trade release dates I've come across the following if anyone is interested. Don't worry I don't have an affliliate links in there if someone is worried about that. Just copy and pasted. Unless NeoGaf itself added their own. One is Rebirth related and the others are books that are right before Rebirth.
I also came across a site I had lost track of before. For some reason I thought it wasn't being updated anymore but was wrong.
http://collectededitions.blogspot.com/
They collect and list when the various trades for various comics are announced and released. They do reviews as well. I think they have more of a DC leaning or just that their DC info is most popular due to how difficult it can be track DC's stuff. Maybe that site can be linked in the opening post for those that plan to wait for the collected editions of the various titles.
Justice League Vol. 8: Darkseid War Part 2
Hardcover - September 27, 2016
Paperback - December 13, 2016
As of right now both are $15 and change.
Titans Hunt
Paperback - September 20, 2016
Superman: Lois and Clark
Paperback - September 6, 2016
I think that's the entire mini-series that leads into Rebirth for pre-New 52 Superman and Lois.
DC Rebirth Omnibus
Hardcover - December 13, 2016
Currently $51.99 as of this posting.
This contains the Rebirth 80 special along with all the "Rebirth #1" issues. Not the new official series #1 issues though. Going to be getting this. There are still a good number still to come and it being hardcover and only just over $50, that seems like a good deal I think.
I also came across a site I had lost track of before. For some reason I thought it wasn't being updated anymore but was wrong.
http://collectededitions.blogspot.com/
They collect and list when the various trades for various comics are announced and released. They do reviews as well. I think they have more of a DC leaning or just that their DC info is most popular due to how difficult it can be track DC's stuff. Maybe that site can be linked in the opening post for those that plan to wait for the collected editions of the various titles.
Justice League Vol. 8: Darkseid War Part 2
Hardcover - September 27, 2016
Paperback - December 13, 2016
As of right now both are $15 and change.
Titans Hunt
Paperback - September 20, 2016
Superman: Lois and Clark
Paperback - September 6, 2016
I think that's the entire mini-series that leads into Rebirth for pre-New 52 Superman and Lois.
DC Rebirth Omnibus
Hardcover - December 13, 2016
Currently $51.99 as of this posting.
This contains the Rebirth 80 special along with all the "Rebirth #1" issues. Not the new official series #1 issues though. Going to be getting this. There are still a good number still to come and it being hardcover and only just over $50, that seems like a good deal I think.
Roland_Gunner
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A preview's up for Batgirl and the BoP. Not sure how I feel about the art. It isn't bad but doesn't seem like a great fit for a book that I associate with lots of action and fight scenes. Maybe better for a supernatural or detective story:
http://www.newsarama.com/30156-prev...-batgirl-and-the-birds-of-prey-rebirth-1.html
http://www.newsarama.com/30156-prev...-batgirl-and-the-birds-of-prey-rebirth-1.html
I might be one of the few that actually likes the art on Batgirl and BoP. Kind of reminds m of Rafael Albuquerque.
Also other previews:
Green Arrow:http://www.avclub.com/article/oliver-queen-fights-reclaim-his-life-green-arrow-3-239624?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds
Batman:http://comicsalliance.com/dc-rebirth-batman-3-preview-king-finch/
Also other previews:
Green Arrow:http://www.avclub.com/article/oliver-queen-fights-reclaim-his-life-green-arrow-3-239624?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds
Batman:http://comicsalliance.com/dc-rebirth-batman-3-preview-king-finch/
RepairmanJack
Member
Poodlestrike
Banned
I kinda dig everything there, tbh.
Batman best preview, tho I can't wait for the art team switch. Been getting more and more dissatisfied with Finch each issue.
Doctoglethorpe
Member
I cant get passed those noses. Theyre too distracting. Idk if I can do it.
Batman #1
Great issue! Batman is the king of prep, and I loved his talk with Alfred and Duke. I love How REBIRTH Batman is always giving his sidekicks huge probs. He
I really want to see Duke suit up more because I liked his yellow costume; super stylish.
5/5 great set piece.
Batman #2
Nothing noteworthy this issue. Just Batman being Batman.
3/5
Superman #1
I got goosebumps, not many comics make me go back and re-read certain panels 2-4 times but this did. I felt so bad for Jon
The art and color is also top notch. I think we got a good creative team on this book
5/5 don't stop
Superman #2
Yet another great issue. Superman's new costume along with the great coloring brings it to life. The family moments were great, but this new threat is kinda confusing to me. Hopefully the bad guy stuff gets easier to follow
4/5
so far Superman and New Superman is on full throttle
Great issue! Batman is the king of prep, and I loved his talk with Alfred and Duke. I love How REBIRTH Batman is always giving his sidekicks huge probs. He
acknowledges that Dick is as good of a teacher as he is.
5/5 great set piece.
Batman #2
Nothing noteworthy this issue. Just Batman being Batman.
3/5
Superman #1
I got goosebumps, not many comics make me go back and re-read certain panels 2-4 times but this did. I felt so bad for Jon
Trying to save your pet, only to kill it is tragic. and then being shooked by Batman and Wonder woman showing up wow.
5/5 don't stop
Superman #2
Yet another great issue. Superman's new costume along with the great coloring brings it to life. The family moments were great, but this new threat is kinda confusing to me. Hopefully the bad guy stuff gets easier to follow
4/5
so far Superman and New Superman is on full throttle
Freezasaurus
Member
It was different from what I was expecting, but I thought it was great.
Tragicomedy
Member
Nothing specific, just not a book for me. I have enough trouble buying into the regular Superman Rebirth books.
I get what DC is aiming for here, which market expansion similar to what Marvel wanted with Cho Hulk. I'm just uninterested in a random dude turned into Supes 2.0 in a lab.
flaxknuckles
Member
The fact that this is China finding a way to ripoff even superheroes is part of what makes it interesting to me.
After recently reading Simone's Bird of Prey I am even more pissed off about Burnside Batgirl and Rebirth Huntress.
Needlessly regressing some really cool characters back to teen-ish hi-jinks. Even the designs are annoying.
Compare:
To:
Grayson Helena looks classy as fuck. And she is an consummate professional.
Rebirth Helena looks even more try hard and aimless than her Pre-Flashpoint incarnation.
Like nu52 Supergirl, I suppose I will suffer in silence until the next redesign.
Needlessly regressing some really cool characters back to teen-ish hi-jinks. Even the designs are annoying.
Compare:
To:
Grayson Helena looks classy as fuck. And she is an consummate professional.
Rebirth Helena looks even more try hard and aimless than her Pre-Flashpoint incarnation.
Like nu52 Supergirl, I suppose I will suffer in silence until the next redesign.
Shamrock7r
Member
I thought New Superman was great. I had one problem
I hope it's not as easy as it seems to give someone Superman's powers. What would stop the group from making a ton more? Will have to see how it plays out.
Spike Spiegel
Member
I am so conflicted about Wonder Woman right now, it's depressing.
Freezasaurus
Member
Which story?
Spike Spiegel
Member
The one that Frank Cho is telling.
It bothers me. It bothers me because I've been enjoying Wonder Woman, and it bothers me all the more because Greg is choosing to remain silent for now, and it also bothers me because there's only one thing I find objectionable about Cho's variants and it isn't the line of Diana's shorts.
Barrow Roll
Member
I just read up about it. If what Cho says is true, then boy, Rucka is being silly. Cho's Wonder Woman is the true beefy Amazon warrior we deserve.
If Rucka has it in his contract that he has editorial control over everything and Cho was wrongly informed about what he could do and once it was known Rucka was in charge why didn't Cho quit right then and there? Why did he continue to try and fight who he had learned was in charge contractually? Regardless if what was being disliked I don't understand why Cho would keep pushing and then making a scene when he finally did quit? His comments about Rucka makes it seem like he just straight up didn't accept or respect Rucka's authority after learning about it and in addition to believing Rucka had no right to comment on his art since he wasn't an artist. The one he should be upset with is the one that wrongly informed him of what he could do. Yet he's putting the spotlight on Rucka.
Rucka likely isn't saying anything because he didn't do anything wrong. Cho seems to be handling this in an unprofessional way.
Rucka likely isn't saying anything because he didn't do anything wrong. Cho seems to be handling this in an unprofessional way.
According to Cho, Wonder Woman is his dream job.
Elaugaufein
Member
If they were going to do Batgirl and the Birds of Prey (which seems to be their idea) then they pretty much had to drop Helena back to an age / level of experience it doesn't seem ridiculous that Batgirl gets top billing and the corresponding role.
Or alternatively Helena came into Nu52 older than Babs and Dinah for some reason , so to get something approaching their old dynamic they need to 'fix' that.
Something similar happened with Helena post-Crisis her origin should have had her younger than Dick (and thus Barbara) but she was generally written around the same age from at least the late 90s.
I mean they could have alternatively aged up Babs and Dinah a little bit which would work okay for Batgirl* but probably not for Dinah, at this point.
*There's a few side references in Batgirl that suggest Barbara is like ~21-23 despite the fact the art style looks nothing like it.
Bear Force One
Banned
Cho's style often makes me slightly cringe and I don't blame them for replacing him on WW of all books. She doesn't need cheesecake.
Barrow Roll
Member
They didn't replace him, he quit. And I don't know if you've seen his variant covers for Wonder Woman but there's no cheesecake. He drew her as a thick and powerful looking warrior, which is awesome.
Hear hear. Cho gets a bad rap because people get strange boners probs. But he really just draws strong, muscular women most of the time. His She-Hulk is AAA+ tier like his WW. As also is his Thundra, Valkyrie, etc.
Bear Force One
Banned
I'm gay. I don't get strange boner problems with his art. I think he panders. It's most often on the edge of embarrassing IMO.
Barrow Roll
Member
Okay, so what do you find embarrassing about his Wonder Woman art in particular?
Poodlestrike
Banned
m8 you cray cray. Her BoP costume is like 6 kinds of awesome. Grayson Helena is a consummate professional, but her outfits weren't what made her that way.
The man is a cheesecake artist. I've liked his WW variants too, but his stock in trade is softcore porn. Plus there's his trolling and all that shit.
I like this variant
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