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Dead or Alive 4 new screens
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VictimOfGrief
Banned
Game = Looks good
PS3 boys = game looks bad
Rev Squad = OMGBBQ, will this be on the REV?!
Character models = look good, not next gen
PS3 boys = this is next gen?
GAF = WTF? NINJA <3's Xbots?
:lol
regardless though, I think it's one of things that at this point, it's all subjective. The game looks great. I'm going to have multiple wet dreams about the girls' new outfits, as will the rest of GAF, but I'm sure they won't share that with us.
Point being is, they've still got a ways to go. hell, we haven't seen this running on final dev kits, no videos of current progress so i'm still holding judgement on it.
Next-Gen... maybe not, but the natural progression of the series is NOT a bad thing.
PS3 boys = game looks bad
Rev Squad = OMGBBQ, will this be on the REV?!
Character models = look good, not next gen
PS3 boys = this is next gen?
GAF = WTF? NINJA <3's Xbots?
:lol
regardless though, I think it's one of things that at this point, it's all subjective. The game looks great. I'm going to have multiple wet dreams about the girls' new outfits, as will the rest of GAF, but I'm sure they won't share that with us.
Point being is, they've still got a ways to go. hell, we haven't seen this running on final dev kits, no videos of current progress so i'm still holding judgement on it.
Next-Gen... maybe not, but the natural progression of the series is NOT a bad thing.
mr_sockochris
Member
Still needs better looking hair and skin. I know I say it in every DoA4 thread, but that's really all it needs.
Stinkles said:
Nope.
Soul Calibur
VF
Tekken
DOA
Lau has more charisma in his pimp-slappin' pinky than half the cookie cutter cast of Tekken. Kage dresses like Sulu went to a glam gay bar and still comes off cooler than the Mishimas. Now, the VF crowd may have shitty motivations for fighting and even crappier backstories, but in-game they have plenty of personality.
But nothing tops Ivy, Astaroth, Cervantes, that bitch Maxi, Voldo, and Seigfreid/Nightmare in one game.
The Faceless Master
Member
yeah, but that image looks 39846394634x better because of the lighting.. and the skin is supposed to look plastic, that's the art style of the gamesangreal said:The hair and lighting is better but the characters look just as plastic.
Shogmaster
Member
Stinkles said:
Akira does Karate? News to VF community. :lol
KingJ2002
Member
mr_sockochris said:
I agree... if they used real looking hair (like in that fmv pic above)and give characters distinguishing characteristics like tattoo's, scars... facial wrinkles on older people, stubble on characters like bayman & bass. It wouldnt take away from the art style... it would give their characters alot more personality since they all wouldnt look like clay dolls.
MightyHedgehog
Member
DOA4 look fantastic. The only thing it needs, visually, is some tastefully done self-shadowing on the characters.
The Faceless Master
Member
postcount++mrmyth said:
you know, it's hidden, right?
C- Warrior
Banned
Dr_Cogent said:
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Redbeard said:
Make all characters look as good as this:
And some great shadowing, lighting...
However, I don't get the hate on DOA4 visuals. It looks phenomenal. It definitely is the kind of thing you have to see in motion at hi-res. I was skeptical at first because of those original pics, but it looks genuinely good. Mind you I hate Dead or Alive, and think it's an horrible fighting series... but visually, it's super impressive.
sly said:
I have as well, and it's super impressive. Honestly, aside from minor clipping and horrible lighting it's unbelievable. There are breathtaking scenes and lavish color usage, and incredible detailed/fluid clothing. The backgrounds are up a huge notch, as well as more interactive. If, at the very least, you don't see a significant leap I feel you're being anal and/or haven't compared how DOA actually looks on XBX to how hi-res DOA4 looks.
MightyHedgehog
Member
All they need to do is add in self-shadowing and some more comprehensive lighting and it looks as good as the DOA art-style will be in stills. Obviously, part of the DOA look is the perfect, porcelain skin deal.
Amir0x said:
I'm not being anal; I do not see a significant leap. Obviously the art direction doesn't leave much room for improvement on the plastic-like bodies but the clothes and environments should look so much better; look at the characters in Gears of War, the level of detail is simply astounding - DOA4 characters should look like the pic you posted above. The environments should be more detailed as well.
Amir0x said:
actually its not impressive.
but you cant tell simply because its the only next gen fighting pictures we have seen.
HOWEVER
if Tekken video on ps3 was done on real time [ again many people thought mobile suit gandam isnt but they got proven wrong ] IF it was being able to be done in real time. or close to, then i am pretty sure you wont even want to play DOA4 anymore
simply because from that Tekken video to this, is ps 1 to ps2 diffrence
DOA4 models are nothing but high rex DOA U. thats it [ not talking about the background of the game, fighting system or anything. just the models ]
Amir0x said:
I wouldn't worry too much about the complainers. The same thing was said about DoA3 before Xbox release. The haters kept on saying DoA3 didn't look much better than DoA2. Now DoA3 is still regarded as one of the best looking Xbox games.
Have you seen the trailer on Cinematech yet? I only have a 27 inch TV right now but the detail I saw in the background was amazing. It is even better than the hi res trailer online.
C- Warrior
Banned
The visuals just don't "wow" me, I'm sure on a tech. level it's great (super smooth, ass load of details and poly's) but the style just doesn't do anything, it's like "this shit again?!"
Look, RE3.5 for the Gamecube has that "flair" that gets to you, that makes you not care about how smooth it is, or how detailed it is--the overal "flora and fauna" of the environment. Observe:
That looks more impressive than the screens I'm seeing for the DOA4. It's almost as if you have to purposefully create certain backdrops that will help distinguish quality tech. work over others.
That RE3.5 shot has that cliche curtain flow (but always cool) the light spots, it all just comes together as something "inviting"
DOA4 should have really changed it's "graphical tone" --it looks too similar...to every damn DOA game before it.
Look, RE3.5 for the Gamecube has that "flair" that gets to you, that makes you not care about how smooth it is, or how detailed it is--the overal "flora and fauna" of the environment. Observe:
That looks more impressive than the screens I'm seeing for the DOA4. It's almost as if you have to purposefully create certain backdrops that will help distinguish quality tech. work over others.
That RE3.5 shot has that cliche curtain flow (but always cool) the light spots, it all just comes together as something "inviting"
DOA4 should have really changed it's "graphical tone" --it looks too similar...to every damn DOA game before it.
sangreal said:
i dont care if the E3 demo was real time or video CG or whatever. the point of these videos where to show what the PS3 can do.
and everyone in this friggin board was bitching at sony at how its not possible. Gundam was one of those games [ even though killzone takes the lead ]
well.. Gundam was RUNNING real time 2 days ago. so that mean all the videos back then in E3 is truly can be done on ps3 in some sort [ more or less depends on the video ]
anyway back to the topic, if Tekken video [ i am saying IF because i dont want to go the fight of its can be done or not] then i wont even look at DOA 4 graphics anymore. simply because that Tekken video does circles around DOA4 in terms of graphics. truly the diffrence is like ps1 to ps2
SolidSnakex
Member
sangreal said:
Which is good since that's what the Tekken demo was. A model, and a f'ckin amazing one at that.
You're comparing DoA4 to a screenshot of a cancelled project?
Wow there is a character model in an empty hallway in the dark with shadows. Big deal. It doesn't even look like real lighting. That looks pretty bad actually. Splinter Cell does a hell of a lot better than RE3.5 showing the difference in light/dark areas.
Wow there is a character model in an empty hallway in the dark with shadows. Big deal. It doesn't even look like real lighting. That looks pretty bad actually. Splinter Cell does a hell of a lot better than RE3.5 showing the difference in light/dark areas.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
Isn't the new Tekken game for PS3 going to use the Unreal 3.0 engine? I think a lot of Namco games are going to use it.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Ok guys, here you have an actual framebuffer capture from DOA3 so we can end all this "looks like a Xbox game" BS. I took it by myself so it is 100% free of PR varnish like increased res and antialiasing.
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That is how it should look on your TV at its native resolution with FSAA added.
I blasted DOA4 when it was unvelied, I did it *a lot*, but you must recognize that there is a pretty big jump here aside from definition and FSAA. It could sport some more polys here and there (some archs IE) but it looks fantastic in movement and now that the final physics algorithms are working it should look even better with those clothes flowing.
The game is mostly starving for good lightning, even more as this is going to be one of the biggest things next gen. Still, I hope that Team Ninja pulls something much better looking for their next game.
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720p
That is how it should look on your TV at its native resolution with FSAA added.
I blasted DOA4 when it was unvelied, I did it *a lot*, but you must recognize that there is a pretty big jump here aside from definition and FSAA. It could sport some more polys here and there (some archs IE) but it looks fantastic in movement and now that the final physics algorithms are working it should look even better with those clothes flowing.
The game is mostly starving for good lightning, even more as this is going to be one of the biggest things next gen. Still, I hope that Team Ninja pulls something much better looking for their next game.
C- Warrior
Banned
^ Alright.
I tried juxtaposing it, rationalizing it.
Let's make it easier for Mr. Bob to understand.
DOA= plays like shit
DOA4=certainly looks like shit
better?
Thank god there is a significant jump between DOA3 to DOA4 (I would think 5 years gap and a new console can do that...)
I tried juxtaposing it, rationalizing it.
Let's make it easier for Mr. Bob to understand.
DOA= plays like shit
DOA4=certainly looks like shit
better?
Thank god there is a significant jump between DOA3 to DOA4 (I would think 5 years gap and a new console can do that...)
Amir0x said:
:lol
really though. follow the logic. i said in some sort of E3 ps3 movies can be done real time
MS gundam proved it.
there is no reason to make me believe that Tekken cant be done. you also have to consider that namco are one of the best when it comes to graphics. Tekken 5 is just an example.