grap3fruitman
Banned
I'm terrible with Akira no matter what game I'm playing. I'm also struggling to adapt to Hayate on stick. I did run into our friend from the other night...
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Dead or Alive 5 |OT| Put a little bounce in your sidestep!
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Stick's always going to be an uphill battle. It depends on if you find it more comfortable to continue to use it or going back to a controller.
I'd love to take it. $20 PSN good for you? (I'd essentially be overpaying but that's about how much the Collector's edition was. $80, wasn't it?
HermitArcader said:
I'd love to take it. $20 PSN good for you? (I'd essentially be overpaying but that's about how much the Collector's edition was. $80, wasn't it?
What the hell is up with that framerate?
Look at the Connection counter. Dude abused lag switch because he got bodied twice in extreme lag.
Didn't notice that, god damn. Ill never understand the mindset of someone who goes online solely to cheat like that.
On another note, I love the sound effects in this game. They sound exaggerated and loud, makes it sound like a kung fu movie.
On another note, I love the sound effects in this game. They sound exaggerated and loud, makes it sound like a kung fu movie.
Leona Lewis
Banned
I'm not so sure. The guy is legitimately good at the game - I don't think he'd need to cheat.
But then again, when I played him in lobby with you guys, I had the same lag problems (and only with him). Maybe some people aren't satisfied with being merely good and have to go full Lance Armstrong ;_;
So then why is his connection 3-1 sporadically. Dude is lagswitching/torrenting to cheat. Otherwise his connection would be a solid 1-2 if lagging 3 if not for the majority of the round.
grap3fruitman
Banned
I think it's just that transition in the stage and Team Ninja's shitty net code. It could have been someone in my house causing the lag as well. The guy is legitimately good and there isn't some switch next to your console you hit to make it lag like that. Kneeing in lag is a bitch though. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy was actually Lopedo.
The dude is good. It's probably just a shitty connection.
I've fought him with a solid connection pre-patch and got destroyed.
Leona Lewis
Banned
I thought Lopedo mains Jann Lee.
Hmm could be. I was talking about the same guy last week:
See, I'm willing to cast doubt if it was a solid 1-2 connection during most of that round, but given I'm seeing 3 at the start, he mashes out a combo, then it goes into slideshow city? Yeah, no... I think it's a standby like Halo 2 of old.
There's no reason a match should be going from 3-1 randomly during a whole round like that unless their connection is EXTREMELY bad.
The Real Napsta
Member
Still no patch on Xbox? Vita release can't come soon enough.
grap3fruitman
Banned
No, Team Ninja just being incompetent.
grap3fruitman
Banned
That's normally how this game plays. He posts on FSD apparently.
hikarutilmitt
Member
Out of curiosity, does it automatically share the photos or just upload them to FB?
hikarutilmitt
Member
Hm, thankfully I don't really do any of the pervy shots, but I don't see why if they can do a FB upload we cannot just export screenshots to XMB.
You can set the album it uploads to to show only to you, BTW.
Hoya Destroyer
Member
That TN company stuff on the bottom of those PS3 photos, seems like an unnecessary annoyance.
I'll likely play for a bit, once the beach stage becomes available on XBL.
I'll likely play for a bit, once the beach stage becomes available on XBL.
It's there for the Youtube upload (unless you have a capture card) as well. It replaces the long legal discalimer DOA3-U-4 had in the Itagaki era. So if that's the trade off, I can't really complain. But yeah, it's mostly stupid.
Copy right protection. All system level screenshots have that.
Is DoA5 a controller friendly game? I've got choice between the regular 360 controller which I am used to, and a street fighter 4 fight pad.
Yes, very. Game is really easy.
grap3fruitman
Banned
Just tweeted this to TN:
grap3fruitman
Banned
Try and redeem this terrible game. Please.
If you think redemption is possible for the problems you see, might as well be specific in pointing out the issues - doing that and being funny don't have to be mutually exclusive.
Just tweeted this to TN:
Haha!
I love how you do things like this and then say "What? Why are you getting mad at me, I'm not even trolling!"
I'm not saying you're a bad person, but man, some of the things that you say are seriously so lame. You should really just stop playing.
We already know what he wants: DOA 3.1.2-3-4...
But he isn't going to get that, and it's been obvious with DOA4/4portable/5/5portable.
So he'll sit here in these threads and whine about it instead of playing Virtua Fighter 5 (you know the game he oh-so-has-fun in) instead of posting here.
Like I said: Shticks gotten old.
Oh... and I thought the "KoF peaked in 98" brigade could be counterproductive in promoting their fave series - so what's the problem with VF5FS that keeps someone here instead?
Even if DoA5 isn't the peak in the series, I figure it can't hurt for Team Ninja to at least experiment a bit, if the different things they did for 5 don't quite work out - I favor KoF over this series, bit even if I don't like all the games in that series, I at least respect the balls old and new SNK had in messing around with the formula once in a while, the stuff that doesn't quite work out eventually dissapears in later games, there's no reason why it can't happen here too.
That being said, for all the praise DoA3.1 gets, might as well be specific about the things that one got right that DoA5 is missing, all I see is different game iterations being mentioned, not features, so something about the fan criticism isn't being as well communicated as it could, and if I hang around here and don't get it yet, what are the odds of Team Ninja getting it, considering the language and geographic barrier?
Team Ninja has been consulting with FreeStepDodge and top tournament players in America. Dr. Dogg suggested lots of things that would make DoA5 a better competitive game, but he was pretty much ignored. It's not a language barrier. Team Ninja and the competitive fan base have different ideas about what make a game good.
hikarutilmitt
Member
Dude, seriously. We get it. You hate the game. Get out of the thread if you do.
I think DOA has always been a game for non-competitive players like myself, and DOA5 is no different. Fighters are pretty much either competitive or non-competitive, and as much as they try, I don't think anyone has really catered to both (Maybe Smash Melee? I dunno).
Maybe a case of TL;DR and not enough people mentioning the same things?
Even not being too immersed in the smash world, it's clear that for their series, if there was one thing that could be changed to automatically improve the experience, random tripping would be the natural choice (with a possible 2nd feature to adjust being the ability to trigget quick recovery on landing from jumps, IIRC) - for DoA(5), what would it be?
A focused message could help, I think.
hikarutilmitt
Member
I always felt like one thing DOA needed, especially being based on VF, is throwing when in states other than standing or recovering from an attack. For instance, you could crumple someone and usually had enough time to perform certain throws based on the state it put them in (stomach crumples would cause a temporary crouch state, even though you couldn't do anything other than a throw escape). VF5 actually removed this and made me kind of sad.
It would be interesting to use Ayane's 4H+K (the wide swinging kick thing) and while they crumple onto their back have the option to throw them or continue with a combo.
The thing is, there aren't very many changes needed to cater to both. The glitch right now that prevents struggling out of sit down stuns is the best thing to happen to the game, but they're going to remove it.
I don't agree with the assessment, though. Community is what makes a game competitive. If enough people showed up for DoA as is, that would be enough. The changes that I and many others want would probably be more to bring other competitive players to DoA, as opposed to bringing in more DoA players who want to get better.
If that makes any sense. haha
Oh, they recieved the message. Sit down stuns and critical bursts are a direct response to what many players wanted. Unfortunately they allow you to struggle out of sitdown stuns and critical bursts have to be performed so deep in to the stun threshold that they're pretty much useless.
The E3 build had these things and they were removed from the final version.
Sure, but that's arguing semantics. I mean, it's relatively easy to find a ranked match online right now, so is the game competitive?
Obviously when I say a 'competitive' fighter I mean one which practices balance and technique over accessibility. By bringing in more competitive players, you'd be leaving out more casual players. No online fighting commmunity has both.
I really couldn't care less about online. When I say competitive community, I mean the people who build offline communities, show up to tournaments, have gatherings, etc. When it comes to that, online play is simply a supplement, not a replacement. I can find a ranked match, but it might be the Lei Fang player who has his controller on turbo trying to get achievements. Online is important in building a community, but not necessary. It makes it harder.
People aren't playing DoA because of the stun system. Simple as that. Team Ninja obviously wants their game to be considered a competitive fighter, else they wouldn't have it at IPL, wouldn't have had the producer at various tournaments pre-release, wouldn't have thrown the tournament event up to release.
And how many casuals will even notice that they can't struggle out of sitdown stuns? How many casuals know what a slow escape is?
The changes most are asking for would go unnoticed by most. Balance, technique, and accessibility aren't mutually exclusive.
But surely struggling out of stuns isn't your only problem?
And you might not care about online, but game developers sure do. How many sales do they get by being a hit amongst the hardcore tournament going crowd? I have no idea what the attendance numbers for EVO are, but I'd guess it's a few thousand?
Not to mention that previous DOA games haven't been aimed at the hardcore of the FGC. It's not so simple as "Fix the balance and people will play it". Just look at Persona Arena.
EDIT: But anyway, my meaning is that whilst DrDogg may have suggested ways to improve the game as a 'proper' fighting game, TN aren't going to implement them if it hinders the experience for their established audience.
And you might not care about online, but game developers sure do. How many sales do they get by being a hit amongst the hardcore tournament going crowd? I have no idea what the attendance numbers for EVO are, but I'd guess it's a few thousand?
Not to mention that previous DOA games haven't been aimed at the hardcore of the FGC. It's not so simple as "Fix the balance and people will play it". Just look at Persona Arena.
EDIT: But anyway, my meaning is that whilst DrDogg may have suggested ways to improve the game as a 'proper' fighting game, TN aren't going to implement them if it hinders the experience for their established audience.
No, the inability to get any kind of damage once I have successfully netotiated my opponent's defense is my problem. The way sit-down stuns are now alleviate that.
I have no interest in a debate of casual/competitive. I have had this conversation far too many times and it goes nowhere.
I accept the game as it is. I was just commenting on the questions being presented. I care about online, as that's the only way I can play against people. I was talking about a competitive scene for the game, something DoA does not have.The game was once pretty much what I'm asking for, so it seems a little odd to say it doesn't fit in with the established audience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=K-F7SZI9ByA
And that's all I have to say about that.
Exactly. Grape wants it to be competitive but Team Ninja is "LOL NO"ing that. Why does he continue to harp on it? They heard it with the DOA5 run-up, they ignored it. You can keep bitching about it but going "TEAM NINJA SUX" over and over and over and over with no points included in it gets old.
This current conversation is what Grape should be doing instead of posting stupid images that don't really provide feedback to them besides "I HATE YOUR GAME LOLZ"