Dear White People | Official Trailer
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Messofanego
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Black people as costumes and racialised language. How could they not have known this would backfire? Just stick to togas, weirdos.
No one has given compelling reasons as to why this is terrible, other than not agreeing or being bothered with the message, or bogus sentiments that the actors in the movie aren't real life-like based on personal perceptions.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
I totally agree.
freenudemacusers
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why am i being targeted!!?!?
Mercury Fred
Banned
Wow! Refreshing to see a movie with this tone on the way to actually engage with some issues. Cool, I'm in.
LiveFromKyoto
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The bolded is why it can't be a definition of racism itself, you have to frame it in symptomatic terms just to express that concept.
Humans have a tendency to otherize those who aren't from their group (whether social class, locality, familial etc). Racism is the negative expression of that when the group paradigm is race.
Disadvantage is an outgrowth of that when applied to unequal power structures.
The word victimization might be too strong, but racial epithets won't make anyone feel good, regardless of which part of the social structure the person hearing it falls into. You can argue there's a false equivalency being made in eliminating individual context by putting it under a global umbrella of racism, but I think that becomes a question of degree and effect, rather than category.
deltatheta
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I wasn't giving a definition, I was explaining why it was defined the way it was in a academic context.
Mattlikewhoa
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Alright, I'm in...
LiveFromKyoto
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Sorry, wasn't trying to single you out with that. I just think the real point of a movie like this is to stir discussion, so I jumped in.
I think what you - and the character - were describing isn't a global academic definition of racism, but of systemic or institutional racism, which is just one form.
Vanillalite
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Looks okay. Agree with a previpus poster who said 1st half of the trailer didn't do much for me, but the 2nd half was much better.
Not totally sold on the dialogue delivery, but I will watch at some point.
Not totally sold on the dialogue delivery, but I will watch at some point.
reelbigtink
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Showed it to a few of my friends and they were all "turned off" by it. Very strange. If the ideas presented in the trailer offend you, you probably have some thinking to do.
MWS Natural
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I think it's really great that you realize this.
I've been following this for a while, definitely a day 1 for me. If I can find a theater its going to be in.
Dice//
Banned
Haha that reminds me. We have a Facebook page for our school where you can send in anonymous comments through to the page and it gets posted. And yeah, our school has "Chinese", "Islamic", "Black Cultural Clubs" (and so on), so one genius [anonymously] posts "Why isn't there a WHITE CLUB?"
I'm happy to say he got slammed for it for missing the point entirely.
Vintage is in. Get with the times sqquuaarreee.
AlexMeloche
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This looks pretty good.
Why does this movie have to seek out to target white people who didn't "choose" their privilege? I had a harder childhood than most, had to work myself to death for what I have now. Nothing "privileged" about it.
Wish the creators would take time to have a fair and open dialogue instead of just lumping all white people together as the bad guys. That's the real racism.
You know it's coming.
Wish the creators would take time to have a fair and open dialogue instead of just lumping all white people together as the bad guys. That's the real racism.
You know it's coming.
Obviously critics are being afraid of black people rioting if this get bad reviews, those black people, always ready to riot like it always
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MiniBossBattle
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What did they do to all the Asians in the college?
I'm all for anything that sends up upper-middle class and upper-class white American passive racism and overall tone-deafness to anything that doesn't impact their ability to buy a spare pair of boat shoes for the summer weekend jaunt to the Cape, but the sentiments you're mocking in the first paragraph aren't exactly invalid. The video + reading your first paragraph there reminds me of law school. As a poor white dude on the Race journal, it was pretty incredible to see how similar the perspectives of the bulk of the staff (primarily black) lined up to the rest of the student body on all issues besides race because they came from similar economic backgrounds, yet there was this belief that those two groups were worlds apart. I couldn't understand it.
Not the second part... the person who would make that argument is a colossal idiot.
Looks great! Thanks for sharing this. I'm very interested to see how the film explores more casual, seemingly-benign, "But I'm honestly not racist!" racism, exemplified by the "you're only technically black" line in the trailer. The film has an important chance to illustrate the intra- and inter-cultural struggle of what it means to be black nowadays, and more generally, the very human need to identify with something -- be it color, creed, or culture -- that's bigger than us.
Entertainment can be one of the most salient ways to educate and bring about change. But whenever a film, article, or book is conceived in an attempt to address and improve race relations in the United States, it's typically drowned in negative feedback regardless of its quality; that it doesn't dig deep enough, that it doesn't spotlight enough minorities, that it won't mean anything in the end. This unfair level of scrutiny only serves to shift the discussion away from important topics that truly matter. It perpetuates the status quo.
If you expect Dear White People to be the silver bullet for destroying racism, you'll be disappointed (and I'm saying that as someone who hasn't watched the film). And yet, even if you think this film won't change entrenched beliefs, consider that the wave won't exist without a lot of drops in the ocean. We have to confront ourselves and each other, and we have to feel uncomfortable, to laugh and cry and grow together. And I'm glad that films like this are being made so that we, as a society, can do that.
Entertainment can be one of the most salient ways to educate and bring about change. But whenever a film, article, or book is conceived in an attempt to address and improve race relations in the United States, it's typically drowned in negative feedback regardless of its quality; that it doesn't dig deep enough, that it doesn't spotlight enough minorities, that it won't mean anything in the end. This unfair level of scrutiny only serves to shift the discussion away from important topics that truly matter. It perpetuates the status quo.
If you expect Dear White People to be the silver bullet for destroying racism, you'll be disappointed (and I'm saying that as someone who hasn't watched the film). And yet, even if you think this film won't change entrenched beliefs, consider that the wave won't exist without a lot of drops in the ocean. We have to confront ourselves and each other, and we have to feel uncomfortable, to laugh and cry and grow together. And I'm glad that films like this are being made so that we, as a society, can do that.
heliosRAzi
Banned
They're off being model minorities
Don't stir the pot. This is about stereotyping white person behavior, cuz they're all the same.
ReplacementPelican
Member
Ha, they used the name of my University.
Yeah, why can't black people just be satisfied that we made "The Help"?
Mammoth Jones
Member
That trailer made me cringe.
Perhaps that's the point.
I dunno...
Perhaps that's the point.
I dunno...
Great post and I agree. Like I said on page one I think this film will be more about what blackness when whiteness dominates.
blame space
Banned
what do you mean "you people"?
Anton Sugar
Member
Not gonna lie, thought this was gonna be dumb when I clicked from the title alone, but I found myself intrigued by the trailer. Like it actually plays both sides of the field and explores both inter and intra cultural issues, which is more I can say about most movies that try to tackle race. I'll keep my eye on this one.
I'm way more interested in this now having watched those interviews. The director put his soul into this project it seems; gotta admire that dedication.
Chie Satonaka
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After having watched the trailer, I'm not sure how anybody could possibly be offended by this, or intimidated by it. Of course, there were people who were upset by that video... What was it? If black people said the same thing as white people do or whatever? That used a lot of the same lines, and...
...Hahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Anyway.
It wasn't especially funny to me, but I'm interested all the same.
...Hahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Anyway.
It wasn't especially funny to me, but I'm interested all the same.
Yes because that is exactly what this is about. Does this movie offend you? Can you relate to the white people in this film?
Psychological Intellect
Banned
From that first trailer I wasn't sure about it but this trailer had more narrative an it looks fun even though all the characters seem like tumblr posts.
EVERYBODY HATES CHRIS
Pretty shallow complaint. What does this even mean?
Maybe the YouTube video stuttered and they looked like they were looping in low quality.
Christoff Yurievich
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That was nine years ago and still I knew who you were talking about.
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